Mother forces son to drink hot sauce as punishment

[ccgirl]

You know she was charged with child abuse? And you see no issue with what she did. Awesome.

I haven't read the whole story. Was she convicted?

 

[ccgirl]

I personally see a BIG difference between getting soap in the mouth or a dab of hot sauce (or red pepper spice as my MIL used) on the tongue than physically forcing a child to swallow a bottle of hot sauce.

Sorry, one more question. I may have missed it in the video but did she make him drink the entire bottle of hot sauce? I did see her pour some in his mouth but I didn't think it was the whole bottle???

 

[wvjules]

If this show aired in November why is it news now?

 

[IDoDis]

The hot sauce things is over the top...depending on how hot it was it cold lead to ulcers.

Coming from a state where hot sauces including green and red chile being the staple of most meals, I know this is not true. Contrary to popular belief that ulcer sufferers should avoid spicy foods, a report published in "Digestive Diseases and Sciences" concluded that capsaicin, a common ingredient found in hot sauce, increased blood flow in the stomach's mucous lining, which may help in healing of the stomach tissue.

What this mother did was horrible. Reminds me of the book, "A Child Called 'It'" by Dave Pelzer (and other follow-up books about his severe child abuse).

 

[luvsJack]

Apparently if fits the legal definition of abuse as she has been charged with child abuse.

IMHO, forcing a child to drink hot sauce (which would make me violently ill) or soap is abusive. Heck, I am not even going to MAKE a child eat broccoli, much less hot sauce or soap.

My kids were punished for cursing, lying or talking back too. They learned that it wasn't a good idea without being made to eat or drink anything.

 

[ccgirl]

Apparently if fits the legal definition of abuse as she has been charged with child abuse.

IMHO, forcing a child to drink hot sauce (which would make me violently ill) or soap is abusive. Heck, I am not even going to MAKE a child eat broccoli, much less hot sauce or soap.

My kids were punished for cursing, lying or talking back too. They learned that it wasn't a good idea without being made to eat or drink anything.

What is the legal definition of abuse? Again, while I may not agree with what she did; I am curious to know what the legal definition is.

 

[DisneyBamaFan]

Sad that anyone would feel the need to do this, but it does not reach the "abuse" threshold for me. The mother should be sent to anger management classes. The anger bothered me more than the actual punishment.

 

[brockash]

If this show aired in November why is it news now?

Because she's just been charged.

 

[AKL_Megs]

Sad that anyone would feel the need to do this, but it does not reach the "abuse" threshold for me. The mother should be sent to anger management classes. The anger bothered me more than the actual punishment.

Yep!

 

[Jennasis]

I haven't read the whole story. Was she convicted?

If this show aired in November why is it news now?

No conviction. Her court date was today (to which she did not even show up). Her lawyer entered a plea of "not-guilty" on her behalf.

 

[luvmy3]

Sorry, one more question. I may have missed it in the video but did she make him drink the entire bottle of hot sauce? I did see her pour some in his mouth but I didn't think it was the whole bottle???

I don't know, I won't watch the video. I should have phrased it differently, I see forcing a child to drink hot sauce and putting soap in the mouth differently.
I've had a bar of soap in my mouth, tasted nasty but I wasn't forced to swallow or eat it.

 

[IDoDis]

The child was able to spit the hot sauce out after he was forced to swish it around in his mouth and hold it in there for a few minutes while the mother ranted at him. From what he spit out, there was a lot in his mouth.

Watch the entire video on the Dr. Phil website. I don't want to post it here because it's too disturbing, but you can google it and find it. The boy pulled 3 behavior cards at school which was why he was being punished.

 

[ccgirl]

Sad that anyone would feel the need to do this, but it does not reach the "abuse" threshold for me. The mother should be sent to anger management classes. The anger bothered me more than the actual punishment.

Yep!

I think I am in agreement here. Again, while these may not have been the forms of discipline I chose I'm not sure they constitute abuse. I would agree she needs some anger management techniques. I think it is just as detrimental to a child not to punish them. I seem to see that a lot lately where parents want to be their friend more than a parent.

 

[PaulaSB12]

Couldn't she just have sent a letter to Dr. Fraud, er, I mean Phil, and asked if dousing a child with ice water, or forcing her kid to drink hot sauce was a good idea before actually doing it? < sarcasm >

Seriously, if nothing else, this woman isn't smart. She obviously did not consider the ramifications of showing herself abusing a child on TV. To me, that alone makes her not smart enough to adopt kids.

The lack of thought started way before the video. I mean really you are 5 years old you have suffered who knows what harm from your birth parents, been in an orphanage. Then you get taken to a strange place with strange people who don't speak the same language. Eat different food and live a completely different life and you are not expected to have any trouble adapting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[wvjules]

I just watched the video. That poor child!

 

[luvsJack]

What is the legal definition of abuse? Again, while I may not agree with what she did; I am curious to know what the legal definition is.

I had no idea actually, but I googled it and this is from "free dictionary":

Child Abuse has been defined as an act, or failure to act, on the part of a parent or caretaker that results in the death, serious physical or emotional harm,

I think it could fit with "emotional harm".



Discipline is something that should teach. If this child already has emotional/behavioral problems, is what she did really going to teach him anything? I would think not.

At the very least she needs a few parenting classes and anger managment. She was quoted to say that she doesn't like the child, wonder if she loves him. If not, she is only hurting him more and more by keeping him with her.

 

[DisneyMomx7]

OMG - I can't believe that anyone would defend this type of behavior.

I've raised seven and I can't imagine doing something like this.

I have put soap in their mouths (just a little) for using bad language or talking back but nothing would ever make me do things like this.

I also question a pp - if the child is already wearing diapers why would you punish them for having a dirty diaper? Never heard of this either.

I hope she gets the book thrown at her, and she should not be able to adopt any children, or keep the ones she already had.

 

[emma'smom]

Abuse.....plain and simple! Anyone who would willingly inflict pain on a child to "teach them" is abusing them in my book. We reap what we sow!

 

[disfan07]

I think this mother is crazy. What she did for so far over the line of acceptable that you cannot see the line anymore.

BUT, I also think it is absolutely unacceptable to:
wash your kids mouth out with soap
spank them, hit them, or really use any physical punishment


I've seen what spanking, hitting, etc can do to a child from working at preschool and I dont find it acceptable at all. It was amazing at how the parents would spank the child but when they would get into trouble at school we were able to talk to them and discipline WITHOUT anything physical.

When you HAVE to discipline without anything physical, you figure out a way to do it.

 

[ccgirl]

I think this mother is crazy. What she did for so far over the line of acceptable that you cannot see the line anymore.

BUT, I also think it is absolutely unacceptable to:
wash your kids mouth out with soap
spank them, hit them, or really use any physical punishment


I've seen what spanking, hitting, etc can do to a child from working at preschool and I dont find it acceptable at all. It was amazing at how the parents would spank the child but when they would get into trouble at school we were able to talk to them and discipline WITHOUT anything physical.

When you HAVE to discipline without anything physical, you figure out a way to do it.

Spanking is legal. Some would think time out or making a child stand alone would be unacceptable and could harm the child as well. I was spanked growing up and I'm just fine. Children often behave differently when they are with their parents and when they with others. Children have been known to be on their best behavior outside of the home.