Michelle Duggar miscarries

[LisaR]

I have mixed feelings. On one hand, my heart goes out to them. Regardless of the circumstances or any other issues, losing a child is a heartbreaking thing.

On the other hand (and this will likely get me flamed), the woman is deliberately putting herself at risk. If she dies due to complications as a result of her many pregnancy there will be 19 children left without a mother. Michelle's compulsive need to procreate is, at this point, incredibly selfish. She and her husband know the medical risks, yet they keep wanting more kids. They are perfectly willing to depend on medical science and doctor's when it matches their agenda. Without medical science Josie would have died, but that wasn't against God's plan. However, they ignore that same medical science when it says something they don't want to hear, because that is against God's plan.

No flames from me.

You won't get flames from me, I completely agree with your opinion. I will also say that I'm sure the family is greatly saddened by this loss and my heart goes out to them. No one should have to feel the pain of losing a child.

EmmaBrault, I just saw your post. Which "many" Hollywood women are giving birth in their 50s? I'm not being snarky, I'm genuinely curious.

Might I add to that and ask which "many" Hollywood women are giving birth in their 50's to their 20th child?

 

[EmmaBrault]

EmmaBrault, I just saw your post. Which "many" Hollywood women are giving birth in their 50s? I'm not being snarky, I'm genuinely curious.

Geena Davis, Holly Hunter, Jane Seymour, Kelly Preston, Nancy Grace, and Beverly d'Angelo have all given birth at Michelle's age or older, most with the mulitiples due to artificial assistance. In fact, many have openly discussed passed miscarriages. None were told it was a sign to stop trying.

I can't find any sources that say past pregnancies make it more significantly dangerous. In fact, everything I can find says each pregnancy lowers the risk of mutiple forms of cancer with breastfeeding having even more benefits.

 

[princessluvsapirate]

I don't believe in her choices either however still feel bad that a baby died .

 

[Conservative Hippie]

When you announce your pregnancies on the Today show, you get more criticism than someone who doesn't. The number of pregnancies you have does increase your risk of complications, as does age. check and check.

did this just happen today, what did they call from the office?

How many weeks was Josie when she was born?

Josie was born at 25 weeks.

 

[TheSchragFamily]

Sorry, I find her behavior (in getting pregnant to begin with) to be reckless. She's ignored direct medical advice to stop having children, and indirect physical advice (the very premature delivery of her last baby) that her body is just not up to the task any more. So, while she may not have directly caused the miscarriage, she certainly deserves some blame in my book for created a dangerous and unsustainable situation to begin with.

I didn't realize we are now blaming women for losing babies. That seems awfully cruel. Also, it doesn't really matter if you agree with her decisions at all. I find it funny that my friends who are pro-choice (not saying if you are or not) are the ones most opposed to Michelle Duggar's RIGHT TO CHOOSE.

And for the record, 2 kids is plenty for me! I'm just sayin'.

 

[Soldier's*Sweeties]

I can't find any sources that say past pregnancies make it more significantly dangerous. In fact, everything I can find says each pregnancy lowers the risk of mutiple forms of cancer with breastfeeding having even more benefits.

Can you provide links for this?
(Honestly, I would like to read about this)

I have always heard the opposite...that with each pregnancy, risks of premature births and other things go up.

 

[nathalee81]

There is no evidence she is at any more of an increased risk than any other pregnant woman her age. Why is she getting more criticism than the many Hollywood celebs who give birth into their 50s?

Also, going on the pill at her age would put her at an increased risk of a heart attack or blood clot.

She is getting more criticism because she has 19 other children that would be motherless if something happened her. Also, her last baby almost died-and she didn't fare too well, either.

While I may not agree with their theories or their practices, my heart hurts for them and their loss. I am 13 weeks pregnant and still not in the "safe" zone. Miscarriage it one of my greatest worries right now. I have seen the baby move and seen it's little heartbeat on the ultrasound, and I would be devastated if I lost him/her.

While I feel for them, I do think there would be one way to end all the criticism. They can stay off the air. It is really that simple. Until then, they leave themselves open for the world to criticize them.

 

[EmmaBrault]

Can you provide links for this?
(Honestly, I would like to read about this)

Here is an example:

Pregnancy and breastfeeding are linked to a decreased risk of ovarian cancer. Ovulation stops or occurs less often in women who are pregnant or breastfeeding. Some experts believe that women who ovulate less often have a decreased risk of ovarian cancer.

 

[princessmom29]

When, oh when will these people learn? How many tragedies will it take for them to figure it out? I fear that she is going to die before they stop the madness.

 

[Soldier's*Sweeties]

Here is an example:

Ok....but that is talking about cancer risks.

I thought we were talking about the increased risks for mother/baby during pregnancy with subsequent pregnancies.

I would rather have a higher risk for cancer than have sickly, pre-mature babies or miscarriages.

 

[EmmaBrault]

She is getting more criticism because she has 19 other children that would be motherless if something happened her. Also, her last baby almost died-and she didn't fare too well, either.

So leaving an only child motherless is less awful? Her last baby almost died because she had a gallbladder attack. This could happen to any woman. It happened to my mother at 22 with her first pregnancy. There is no reason to believe it had anything to do with past pregnancies.

 

[EmmaBrault]

Ok....but that is talking about cancer risks.

I thought we were talking about the increased risks for mother/baby during pregnancy with subsequent pregnancies.

I would rather have a higher risk for cancer than have sickly, pre-mature babies or miscarriages.

Where is the evidence past pregnancies increase the risk of miscarriage, prematurity, or birth defects? I mean, chromosonal abnormalities(which are usually to blame for miscarriages in older women) are due to poor egg quality.

 

[nathalee81]

So leaving an only child motherless is less awful? Her last baby almost died because she had a gallbladder attack. This could happen to any woman. It happened to my mother at 22 with her first pregnancy. There is no reason to believe it had anything to do with past pregnancies.

Obviously, you of the mindset that Michelle should not be criticized. No evidence anyone presents would make you think otherwise.

They do publicize their lives on air and that allows the world into their livingroom and lives. If they don't want it, they can get off the air at any time.

 

[yoopermom]

Did anyone else watch the three episode arc where they traveled overseas while she was in the first trimester? I was a little surprised that she took that chance. No, she didn't ride the camel, but just all that travel alone would be hard on a pregnant woman of her age I would think.

I feel terrible for them all...

Terri

 

[Soldier's*Sweeties]

Where is the evidence past pregnancies increase the risk of miscarriage, prematurity, or birth defects? I mean, chromosonal abnormalities(which are usually to blame for miscarriages in older women) are due to poor egg quality.

I'm not going searching right now...but I was under the impression that with a LOT of pregnancies there are more risks for problems with the placenta and cervix. (I am not talking about people with 3 even 5 kids...more like BACK to BACK pregnancies for years on end)

I'm not trying to be snarky...just honestly curious.

But her age also put her at risk...

 

[Conservative Hippie]

Here is an example:

Breastfeeding also decreases the risk of ovarian and breast cancer. Michelle Duggar doesn't appear to breastfeed for very long because she would not get pregnant again so quickly if she did (it is different for every woman and for every baby, but typically breastfeeding regularly halts ovulation) . On one episode she talked about breastfeeding for 9 months.

 

[SaraJayne]

I'm not going searching right now...but I was under the impression that with a LOT of pregnancies there are more risks for problems with the placenta and cervix. (I am not talking about people with 3 even 5 kids...more like BACK to BACK pregnancies for years on end)

I'm not trying to be snarky...just honestly curious.

But her age also put her at risk...

There are. I believe with Josie, she had to have a cerclage and that obviously didn't work, since Josie was still born so prematurely.

 

[SaraJayne]

Here is an example:

Citation?

 

[handinpocket]

She should thank her lucky stars she didn't make it further along and suffer a ruptured uterus. Dead baby, dead Mom.

 

[DrPierreMcDuck]

I have only seen bits and pieces of the show here and there, but I saw the entire inside of their house on a design blog. It looked great, but one thing I noticed was that the rooms for the kids were full of beds. All this space yet all the children seemed to be grouped into two rooms. Was this just for the photos or do the older kids really not have any privacy?