In the FAQ for the program on the DVC site, under the Who is Eligible question:
Right. You paid to get into the park and then had the option of buying ticket books to ride certain attractions. Finding ways to charge people more money has a long tradition in the Walt Disney Company.
What’s actually baffling is that you feel like it’s acceptable to personally come for someone who doesn’t have the same experiences or beliefs as you, especially based on some exaggerated hypothetical. There’s plenty of space for debate and @Sandisw has always been respectful of allowing other people to have their opinions without questioning their character.
Those things you referenced are regulated differently than what's offered in this first iteration of the package. There is nothing in there that we, as Canadians, cannot access today (from a product perspective, at full/normal value, or with current DVC discounts on things like APs and party tix), except the waitlist for the lounges. We even attended some of those DVC character greetings they ran this summer and they were pretty nice. Now we'd be shut out of those too.
I see confusion. Don't forget you just bought a room.
It's worth it to me and I can afford to buy it. That's what I will do.
Absolutely degraded, because your entrance ticket just allows you in the park and the ability to stand in line if you don't pay extra to jump ahead. You have to pay for the upgraded room and the upgraded experience. I love to go to Animal Kingdom, ride the safari, maybe see the Lion King Show, watch the bird show and walk through the Gorilla and Tiger exhibits, plus I like to go to Conservation Station and do the drawing thing. (I'm old now and no longer into any swirly rides.) Used to be able to do most of that and be out by lunch time. Not anymore. No ten minute walk on for the Safari and finish in about 35 minutes. The last three times it's been an hour and a half. Tempting to pay for it but I've begrudged myself the ability and stuck to the slow as cold molasses line and entertained myself by talking to my fellow line waiters. And I've learned to carry water and a couple of snacks. People sort of come out of their shells if they are stuck with you for that long. Sometimes I learn stuff and make some temporary friends.
I think some people on here (not you) don't remember what's actually enforceable in the DVC contract, and are hung up on possible freebies which have existed since conception of the program in one way or another and have come and gone.
In one sense I agree with your sense of fairness but in real life it's not a realistic focus to have. You may see yourself continuously disappointed that something you once loved (maybe) is changing and not in a way that you want to accept.
No. I'll be in line to buy it, 'this' time. Maybe not all the time as stuff has a way of changing, disappearing, pricing people out, etc. In my mind, nobody should have bought Riviera with the restrictions. I didn't. But I've stayed there several times now with my unrestricted points. I think it's a lovely resort but I won't ever need to buy it.
I've had the dumpster view at BRV. View wasn't terrible or that disturbing but it was a long walk to get there. I'm always the target for the leftover handicapped accessible rooms, but I've avoided sometimes by requesting a far from the elevator room.
I've been a little bit mad when something I enjoyed got tanked. You get over it and move forward or you talk with your wallet and move on.
Me also for BRV. VGF resort studio standard view - last trip - view wasn't horrible, it was nice green grass. In the distance there was a sliver of water visable between buildings so I zoomed in and took that picture and posted it as a 'great view', with another shot of reality following it. My little joke. Plus with my grandchildren the action was in the room and at the pools.
Since I’m international too, which email address did you write to?
There is literally zero chance anyone buying the LLPP wasn't already going to purchase standard Lightning Lane access for multiple rides. If you have $450 to shell out on a Premier Pass, you were already loading up on Lightning Lanes for any attraction worth purchasing one for anyway. Also, yes, they don't have preset return times, but they also are limited to one use per attraction, so they aren't increasing rider loads. Guest A is still only riding 7DMT once, whether he rides it at a prescribed time, or on his own schedule.
Yes, I know.
Yes -- the more the better
The parking lots are maintained by member dues and so are the laundry facilities, both the ones in the 1+ bedroom villas and the community laundry rooms. So they can't charge extra for them - we're already paying for them.
AHhh....i did not think of that. You may be correct in which case this stinks. I dislike disney when they make the cash grubs
Ah, so that's why not charged yet! Makes sense.
“Not charged yet” and “cannot be charged.” Or maybe I should say they can’t be charged separately. During the few years that Disney charged for resort parking, they couldn’t charge DVC members to park at DVC resorts when staying on points, because we’re already paying.
