McCain Speech... What a hero

[Mickeyistheman]

I have a few things to note on this thread.

I have respect for Mccain as far as what he had done for our country and NO ONE can take that away from him.

However, why is it the only statement that we have been hearing for the ENTIRE convention? I was truly sick of it last night. Cindy talked about it, then we saw a video about it and THEN John Mccain Himself talked about HIMSELF yet again!!

However, this was 40 years ago and many have also survived as John Mccain has and they too will have my respect and Great Thanks for defending our Country.

So after all of that was said, what was he going to do about the future?

He didn't talk about Less Expensive Education, he talked about choice for parents such as Charter Schools etc. which cost alot of money.

He talked about Drilling, Drilling, Drilling right here at home again something I don't fully agree with.

He also said that he doesn't like War, yet he voted for us to go to War and agrees with our current POTUS that we need to continue this war.

That is not a President that I want. He is not going to create new jobs.

Like I said I respect this man for what he has done for our country but he isn't the only one.

For those that created "static" last night they were holding up the Peace Sign, both of them. The woman was very passionate and a little crazy from what I could see, but I am curious what was on her shirt? Was it how many US soliders have died? Maybe one was her son or brother or husband?

He also was talking about Ronald Reagan, how long was he in Senate or Congress before he became a President? Wasn't he an actor too?

Meant to be funny no hatred but for those that keep talking about experience that is what I mean.

And this last one is for CowboyCo - Young people show poor judgement

That was part of your last post, I am a young person and that is a statement you better watch out about. That is all I have to say about that.

 

[TheGoofster]

McCain is definitely a hero and his story was very compelling. But he is not the best at delivering speeches. It's just not his strength. And will someone please stop using a green backdrop behind him. They have done that before and green does not make him look good. He looks frail with that backdrop. Once they changed the backdrop, he looked much better!

The guy on CNN last night after the speech said that McCain definitely won't win the Presidency by his oratory skills, then he said, but he very well might win it on his character.
On Fox they said that McCain's strong suit isn't standing in one place and giving a speech, he prefers a more relaxed, informal setting where he can hold the mike in his hand, walk around, not use a teleprompter and interact with the audience. I tend to agree with both statements.
They also said that the green background was actually a lawn in front of school (the screen was so big that all we could see was the green part).

 

[talulabelle]

For anyone who missed this video - I posted it on the Conservative thread too:

It is the Sarah Palin inrtoduction video for the convention, but they didn't have time to air it - It is really awsome - I get goosebumps-

http://portal.gopconvention2008.com/...ils.aspx?id=94

 

[Charade]

I have a few things to note on this thread.

I have respect for Mccain as far as what he had done for our country and NO ONE can take that away from him.

However, why is it the only statement that we have been hearing for the ENTIRE convention?

It wasn't.

He didn't talk about Less Expensive Education, he talked about choice for parents such as Charter Schools etc. which cost alot of money.

He talked about Drilling, Drilling, Drilling right here at home again something I don't fully agree with.

He also said that he doesn't like War, yet he voted for us to go to War and agrees with our current POTUS that we need to continue this war.

That is not a President that I want. He is not going to create new jobs.

Like I said I respect this man for what he has done for our country but he isn't the only one.

For those that created "static" last night they were holding up the Peace Sign, both of them. The woman was very passionate and a little crazy from what I could see, but I am curious what was on her shirt? Was it how many US soliders have died? Maybe one was her son or brother or husband?

He also was talking about Ronald Reagan, how long was he in Senate or Congress before he became a President? Wasn't he an actor too?

Meant to be funny no hatred but for those that keep talking about experience that is what I mean.

And this last one is for CowboyCo - Young people show poor judgement

That was part of your last post, I am a young person and that is a statement you better watch out about. That is all I have to say about that.

So you were paying attention. Good!

BTW, Reagan was a TWO term Governor of Calee-fornya.

 

[SplashMtnCrew]

I have a few things to note on this thread.

I have respect for Mccain as far as what he had done for our country and NO ONE can take that away from him.

However, this was 40 years ago and many have also survived as John Mccain has and they too will have my respect and Great Thanks for defending our Country.

So after all of that was said, what was he going to do about the future?

He didn't talk about Less Expensive Education, he talked about choice for parents such as Charter Schools etc. which cost alot of money.

He talked about Drilling, Drilling, Drilling right here at home again something I don't fully agree with.

He also said that he doesn't like War, yet he voted for us to go to War and agrees with our current POTUS that we need to continue this war.

That is not a President that I want. He is not going to create new jobs.


For those that created "static" last night they were holding up the Peace Sign, both of them. The woman was very passionate and a little crazy from what I could see, but I am curious what was on her shirt? Was it how many US soliders have died? Maybe one was her son or brother or husband?

First your great thanks and respect for defending the country is great, remember it's not just about physically defending the country but defending the Constitution that armed forces defend. 40 yrs ago is important HOWEVER not as important as 232 yrs ago during the Revolutionary war...time doesn't erase or minimize importance.

Less Expensive Education: I'm lost here, public schools are free...college is expensive for everyone, it's called a lifetime investment, that's why it takes money, it's an investment....you know, you put money in, you get more when you're done.

DRILLING: you don't want to drill here b/c assumingly, you didn't specify why you don't want to, but assumingly you don't want to destroy the enviroment...but it's okay to destroy the enviroment of other countries? or to put the burden of our need for oil into someone's else's hands? Self responsibility/independence is what that is.

WAR: just b/c someone has served in war/votes for war doesn't mean they like it. The right things are seldom easy and the easy things are seldom right.

NEW JOBS: Why praytell is it any president's responsibility to "CREATE" new jobs for you or me? We have a free enterprise system here, you are free to start a business of your own or to work for someone who does. OR you don't have to work, that's your freedom to choose, not anyone's responsibility to do FOR you.

THE STATIC: her boyfriend, husband, son, uncle, or aunt sally's cousin's neighbors granndma's nephew, it is a voluntary military here. If you don't want to have to serve in a possilbe war, don't sign up b/c it could really happen.

You mentioned that you are young, age is unimportant, I respect your thoughts, opinions and will defend your right to speak them, remember though there are two sides to every story and somewhere in the middle is probably the truth. We need more young people involved like you seem to be

 

[segpm08060]

T It is not a joke. It is a needed service and I think all Comm. Organ. can be proud of their service.

The point she was trying to make, while poking some fun (I think we all can agree both sides use it from politicians to late night tv) was that Obama was saying all the experience she had was being Mayor (I found it funny he left out the govenor part). He demeaned her.........he opened the door, imo, on that one.

The door has been open for a long time. On right wing radio/tv it is said too often to be deemed a joke. If you say something often enough and long enough, guess what, some people think it is true. This has been a "joke" for the right wing before she came along. It is "red meat" for the right wing. It is demeaning to those who choose to do this type of work.

I don't know what Palin was doing, but I know what McCain was doing at 23, and it was more than community service. Nothing wrong with community service, Cindy MccCain has been doing it all her life. My 12 yr old son does alot of community service. He isn't qualified for president either.

You're joking right! At 12 years old, he is not old enough to qualify. Perhaps after your son becomes the editor of the Harvard Law Review, teach constitutional law at the U of Chicago, become a State Senator, a US Senator, write 2 best selling books, beat the favored candidate of a major political party and become the nominee, manage a campaign that manages millions of dollars a month, tell your son do not put the fact that he did community service on his resume when he runs for President.

I don't think OA was insinuating anything like that at all. But there IS a difference.

Was the bolded part really necessary?

I think that QA was insinuating that community service is a demeaning job. That is why I made my comments.

As far as the bolded part, we do get carried away sometimes.

 

[mickeysgal]

Perhaps after your son becomes the editor of the Harvard Law Review, teach constitutional law at the U of Chicago, become a State Senator, a US Senator, write 2 best selling books, beat the favored candidate of a major political party and become the nominee, manage a campaign that manages millions of dollars a month, tell your son do not put the fact that he did community service on his resume when he runs for President.

With all due respect, please list or provide a link that tells all of us what BO accomplished during his time as a State Senator and US Senator. What laws did he propose, what his voting record was, what Chicago corruption did he correct, etc. What did he accomplish, other than campaigning during his time in office? In other words, what change this man speaks about so much, did he actually accomplish?

I really think a lot of us would get off the backs of BO supporters if someone, anyone, would provide detailed proof that he has executive experience and has actually accomplished something that makes him worthy of being presidential material.

 

[manning]

McCain is a sad old man who's suffering of demention.

He only lives in the past and his "Hanoi" time is way back in the past.

The only goal for him is another war to satisfy personel war .

He knows what he is doing.

 

[VicP71]

Last night the difference between the two campaigns came full cirle.

Obama is running on his ideas
McCain is running on his character

Both candidates are pushing that difference. Obama will say McCain has no ideas and McCain will say Obama has no character. I personally put more weight on ideas to change the country. I have seen McCains character and it does not appeal to me. However, his speach last night i felt will speak to alot of Americans, just not me. His opinions on education, drilling, and the war do not coincide with my beliefs so Obama gets my vote and no internet forum is going to change my mind. It seems like most of these threads are just beating a dead horse.

 

[talulabelle]

The door has been open for a long time. On right wing radio/tv it is said too often to be deemed a joke. If you say something often enough and long enough, guess what, some people think it is true. This has been a "joke" for the right wing before she came along. It is "red meat" for the right wing. It is demeaning to those who choose to do this type of work.


You're joking right! At 12 years old, he is not old enough to qualify. Perhaps after your son becomes the editor of the Harvard Law Review, teach constitutional law at the U of Chicago, become a State Senator, a US Senator, write 2 best selling books, beat the favored candidate of a major political party and become the nominee, manage a campaign that manages millions of dollars a month, tell your son do not put the fact that he did community service on his resume when he runs for President.



I think that QA was insinuating that community service is a demeaning job. That is why I made my comments.

As far as the bolded part, we do get carried away sometimes.

Oh! 2 books? Oh wow, that is a qualifier now? Someone call Danielle Steele! She may just be qualified for 2012!

 

[Mickeyistheman]

SplashMtnCrew-

Can I first say, thank you so much for your kind words. I do feel that as a young person it is important to get involved no matter which side you are on.
I thank you and wish more were like you on this board, even though me may agree to disagree I am glad we can do it with a smile

In regards to Education, which Mccain did speak of last night, he was talking about better public schools BUT he also mentioned Chartered and Private schools which do cost more money.

Also for my sister who just started College it is costing my parents ALOT of money, she tried to get as many scholarships as she could to help the burden, but it wasnt' enough. She wants to teach elementary education and is a very good student and I know she will do well.

I am just concerned for others who can't afford college because of their mortgage or other debt they may have aquired, shouldn't their children have the same oppurtunity to better themselves and be able to get a job that can pay well instead of minimum wage?

That is all that I meant by the Education that Mccain spoke about. I will be voting for Obama, like I said I respect and am thankful for Mccain, we just differ on other issues as well. I am a female too, sometimes you can't tell

I look forward to the debates and let's see what is going to happen whatever does it will be historic and I am excited about that.

 

[talulabelle]

Last night the difference between the two campaigns came full cirle.

Obama is running on his ideas
McCain is running on his character

Both candidates are pushing that difference. Obama will say McCain has no ideas and McCain will say Obama has no character. I personally put more weight on ideas to change the country. I have seen McCains character and it does not appeal to me. However, his speach last night i felt will speak to alot of Americans, just not me. His opinions on education, drilling, and the war do not coincide with my beliefs so Obama gets my vote and no internet forum is going to change my mind. It seems like most of these threads are just beating a dead horse.

Will you please find me an outline of his ideas? I have been looking, really I have. I see the words "change" and "hope" alot. But I can't find the ideas.

 

[shmoogrrrl]

I don't think OA was insinuating anything like that at all. But there IS a difference.

Was the bolded part really necessary?

YES! Let them keep putting down the small towns. Seriously. The more they do it, the better it is for McCain/Palin.

 

[Mermaid02]

Again so what???

The civilized world pukes upon the US .
We are NOT the police of the world and each country has to fight his own battle.

McCain loved to stay in prison. He obviously had no desire to return to his family and that makes him a very creepy person.

Nothing special just a person who loves to be in the picture .

Speaking of creepy.................

 

[VicP71]

With all due respect, please list or provide a link that tells all of us what BO accomplished during his time as a State Senator and US Senator. What laws did he propose, what his voting record was, what Chicago corruption did he correct, etc. What did he accomplish, other than campaigning during his time in office? In other words, what change this man speaks about so much, did he actually accomplish?
QUOTE]

Seek and ye shall find.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/The/gG5tCk

 

[VicP71]

Will you please find me an outline of his ideas? I have been looking, really I have. I see the words "change" and "hope" alot. But I can't find the ideas.

Do I have do all the research around here, this took 5 seconds to find on his own website.

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

After the link click on blueprint for change. This outlines in detail his ideas.

 

[manning]

What character????
He is living in the past and his only goal is another war.

He was a prisoner of war so what???

Is he so special???

No he is a sad old man who is living in the past.

I just read that it will take decades and the children of our children to pay for his and Busch crazy ideas to win the war .

If you will read history you will find that there were key disagreements on how to fight that war.

When they went in he along with a few other general officers argued we needed more troops, and he was right.

He wanted Rumsfield to be replaced, and he was right.

He was for the surge, and he was right.

Him being a prisoner isn't the important thing. It is how he conducted himself while a prisoner that is.

He could have gone home several times.

He could have gone home with the aircraft carrier he was serving on when it got damaged, but he chose to transfer to another one.

He could have come home when he was a prisoner of war ahead of others because he was the son of an admiral, but he chose to stay. The code of conduct was you went home in the order you were captured, and he knew what it would have done to the morale of the other prisoners.

What does this show about the man?? He is of good character and a leader.

As far as how we fought the war, yes there were mistakes. Unfortunately that is what is common with war. I served during the vietnam war. I got to talk with soldiers who were retiring and served in WW2 and Korean war. I remember asking one how did we win. He said "we made less mistakes than the enemy did along with our manufacturing capability".

So, do you know what you are talking about? Not really.

 

[talulabelle]

Do I have do all the research around here, this took 5 seconds to find on his own website.

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

After the link click on blueprint for change. This outlines in detail his ideas.

Blah blah blah. I looked at that already, it is a page full of buzz words. It says things like "BO believes we need to equip our schools....blah blah blah." but it doesn't say how he intends to do it....cough - higher taxes - cough

 

[VicP71]

You obviously did not actually look at the downloadable PDF file that is over 30 pages. I am an Obama supporter but at least I actually look into the other candidate and his plans for the country. Way to make an informed decision, keep drinking the coolaid.

 

[manning]

He's not war happy, he endured a lot of scrutiny because he didn't agree with Reagan's plan to send marines into Lebanon. McCain was right btw.

As for the POW comment, he showed his character by choosing to stay.

The normal tour of duty in vietnam was 13 months.

After given a choice, Kerry decided to bail out after several months and he had it easy compared to McCain and those who had to fight in the jungle.

Talk about comparing character.

McCain's conditions were far worse. Unlike other prisoners who didn't have a choice, as he did, he chose to stay.

This speaks to his character in VOLUME.