Max Occupancy in DVC Resorts

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Allowing 5 in a one bedroom for those families with three children of the same gender is very comfortable, and seems like such a reasonable accomodation. When we travel and get Embassy Suites or Marriott Suites they have one bedroom units as well, and it works out very nicely for our family. Perhaps if our kids were older and we had boys and girls, it would be different. Each family can make that judgement for themselves. More than two adults wouldn't work out for us. When the boys get older, definitlye a two bedroom with the extra bathroom will be in order. But right now when they are small, the extra bedroom would not be used.

Allowing 5 in a one bedroom for those families with three children is very reasonble.
 
"Pooh" on me for not noticing before we joined, There doesn't appear to be any dedicated 2BRs at BWV. I don't like the lockoffs. I'm not comfortable with my 3 children (at their age) having access to an egress, and a balcony, so far removed from the master in the 1 BR.

Label me nervous. But, I feel better having them close where I can keep tabs on 'em.
 
I have a question about a Studio room at the Saratoga Springs Resort. What is the maximum occupancy per room at the resort? Would 5 people be able to fit?
 
disneygal55 said:
I have a question about a Studio room at the Saratoga Springs Resort. What is the maximum occupancy per room at the resort? Would 5 people be able to fit?
No, unless one of them is young enough to sleep in a Pac N Play portable crib. MS will not reserve a studio for more than 4 anymore.
 

disneygal55 said:
I have a question about a Studio room at the Saratoga Springs Resort. What is the maximum occupancy per room at the resort? Would 5 people be able to fit?

We've had 5 and fit just fine. Others definition of comfort may be different than ours.

When our youngest was an infant, the pack-n-play worked great. Once he was 2, he jumped in the sleeper sofa with his older brother and the oldest slept on an aero-bed. Both ways had worked great for us.
 
Comfort aside, 5 in a studio is not allowed either under our contract or MS policies at any DVC resort unless one is an infant under the age of 3.
 
CapeCodFam said:
We've had 5 and fit just fine. Others definition of comfort may be different than ours.

When our youngest was an infant, the pack-n-play worked great. Once he was 2, he jumped in the sleeper sofa with his older brother and the oldest slept on an aero-bed. Both ways had worked great for us.

The point is not whether 5 would fit. Folks decide what they want from their vacation. The contract says 4. DVC can and does sometimes ignore the contract. At some point DVC may decide to hold true to the contract and not allow reservations for more than the contract allowances. I think it is unfair for folks to be mislead that they will always be able to reserve a studio for more than 4.
 
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pplasky said:
I read on the community board that someone who went to a member meeting at SSR was told that MS has officially raised the occupancy limits in a 1BR to 5 adults. If true, this should take some of the heat out of this topic.


1) Sorry.
2) Occupancy levels have not been raised.
3) The original quantities still prevail.
4) Techincally it is a fire code violation.
5) We wouldn't let the extra person have a key.
6) If we find out about it, we take action.
 
Nanajo1 said:
The point is not whether 5 would fit. Folks decide what they want from their vacation. The contract says 4. DVC can and does sometimes ignore the contract. At some point DVC may decide to hold true to the contract and not allow reservations for more than the contract allowances. I think it is unfair for folks to be mislead that they will always be able to reserve a studio for more than 4.

All rooms at WDW, including DVC, allow 4 + 1 child under 3. I don't think that's misleading at all.
 
TheRustyScupper said:
1) Sorry.
2) Occupancy levels have not been raised.
3) The original quantities still prevail.
4) Techincally it is a fire code violation.
5) We wouldn't let the extra person have a key.
6) If we find out about it, we take action.

I'm having a tough time with 5 and 6. There have been too many reports here to the contrary to believe either is true.

Are you a Disney/DVC employee?

FWIW, I wish Disney would actively and consistently enforce the occupancy provisions in the contract. Unfortunately, they have proved time and time again that they will not.

Best wishes -
 
CapeCodFam said:
All rooms at WDW, including DVC, allow 4 + 1 child under 3. I don't think that's misleading at all.
Actually the one child under 3 is not in the documents, it was added by DVC for flexibility. The occupancies are spelled out. DVC does not chose to enforce them but many timeshares do, esp on exchanges.
 
TheRustyScupper said:
1) Sorry.
2) Occupancy levels have not been raised.
3) The original quantities still prevail.
4) Techincally it is a fire code violation.
5) We wouldn't let the extra person have a key.
6) If we find out about it, we take action.


Sorry, but I agree with Carol. I don't think 5 or 6 are true. I also don't think #4 is correct either. We know people who have put 5 in a 1 bdr many, many times. All 5 have always been on the reservation and they all get keys. In fact, these people laughed at me when I told them the occupancy for for a 1 bdr is 4 and they told me that's not true.

I myself booked a 1 bdr for 5 without a problem. All 5 of us are on the reservation (our youngest is 3). I asked if we would all get room keys for EMH and the CM said "of course." I asked if it was a fire code violation (because I worry) and was told that 5 in a 1 bdr is not a fire code violation or else they wouldn't allow it. I was also told that only 4 are allowed in a studio, so I'm surprised by stories of MS putting more than that on reservations.

Are you a Disney or DVC employee?
 
TheRustyScupper said:
1) Sorry.
2) Occupancy levels have not been raised.
3) The original quantities still prevail.
4) Techincally it is a fire code violation.
5) We wouldn't let the extra person have a key.
6) If we find out about it, we take action.

Wow, you are responding to a post that occured months ago!!! By the way, since that time I have made three reservations, 2 being a 1BR with 5 in it, we all were listed and we all had a key. You seem to be responding as if you are a cm, maybe the difference is between the way MS books the rooms and the way CRS books them. Either way, DVC members using points can have 5 in a 1BR at this time.
 
TheRustyScupper said:
1) Sorry.
2) Occupancy levels have not been raised.
3) The original quantities still prevail.
4) Techincally it is a fire code violation.
5) We wouldn't let the extra person have a key.
6) If we find out about it, we take action.
Then why does MS consistantly say 5 in a 1 bedroom is allowed and even takes names for that number? When we tried to add New Years Eve to our upcoming ressie, the only thing available was a 1 bedroom. When I questioned that with our 5 adults who would be checking into the 2 bedroom on the 1st, I was told that 5 were allowed in the 1 bedroom, but that we would need to provide our own extra bedding (which I already knew).
 
TheRustyScupper said:
1) Sorry.
2) Occupancy levels have not been raised.
3) The original quantities still prevail.
4) Techincally it is a fire code violation.
5) We wouldn't let the extra person have a key.
6) If we find out about it, we take action.

1) Are you sure?
2) Maybe not officially, but unofficially they have been for some time.
3) Call and try to book with 5 and see.
4) Not according to the CM I talked to, they said that's just aline.
5) We who? They let us have 5 keys.
6) We who?
 
kathleena said:
...4) Not according to the CM I talked to, they said that's just aline. ...

I certainly hope it's not just a line about fire codes. Fire codes are required for the safety of guests and staff. Remember the fire in the chicken processing plant in North Carolina? The owner chained the fire exit shut to keep employees from taking unauthorized breaks. So when the place caught fire, and many people were killed, he went to jail.

Occupancy is very important when it comes to designing the number, size and distance to the fire exits.
 
I can't imagine there would be much difference in getting 5 people out vs. four people in the case of a fire.
 
I don't believe it's a fire code issue. You can legally have 5 in a POR trundle room with one exit. A DVC 1 bedroom is at least twice the space of POR and has 2 or 3 exits (main door, living room balcony, bedroom balcony). There's no way fire code would not allow 5 people in a 700 square foot room with 2 or 3 exits but allow it in a 300 square foot room with 1 exit. If it was a fire code issue, there is no way Disney would take a chance on allowing overoccupancy.
 
It's not just getting out of the room, but out of and away from the building. They calculate the square footage of stairwells, the number of stairwells, the width of the corridors (whether indoors or outdoors). The way you see it is only evacuating the room and not the building. Remember, you can't use an elevator in a fire.

Imagine you are on the top floor the building when you get an announcement to leave immediately. You have to complete for the room in the stairs to get out with all the floors below you. Unless you plan to jump out the window. And sometimes they do count evacuation from a balcony as part of the means of egress.

Add up all the bodies that could be in the rooms on your floor. Then look at your stairwells. Will you all fit if everyone justs add another one or two? How quickly can you get out and away from the building?

And they probably calculate that some children will be carried by parents in the calculation.

If it was a single family occupancy, just your family in the building, it would be different. But there are lots of other families in that building, too.

You folks are not looking at means of egress properly.

Do a Google on The Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Fire. It'll help you understand fire codes.
 
Oh, I get it. Total resort occupancy in order to exit the building.

Thanks. :teeth:
 
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