Marrieds choosing not to have kids

[plgrn]

how did you like Carnival??...I hear both good and really bad things about the ships..ie..cleanliness, the unfriendliness of the staff...but they have such good deals....DH and I are really looking into taking a cruise, but are finding it hard to pick a cruise line...

The price was right! DH and I did a 5 day cruise in September (hurricane season) for $600 TOTAL...parking, gas, spending money, excursions, EVERYTHING! We cruised on Carnival's oldest and smallest ship, The Holiday because it leaves from Mobile and we live in north Alabama. Next time we will save our money and fly to a different port of call with a bigger ship. We don't drink, and there wasn't much else to do on the ship! Plus, DH didn't like the rocking that was worse b/c of the ship size.

If you're looking for a cheap little getaway though it's worth it! I'd like to take a Royal Caribbean Cruise next time.

 

[TKDisneylover]

We have a No Kidding group here in W. Mass. & it is all about the food for us. About once a month we get together at a different restaurant for good food & conversation. Last month was an Indian restaurant, I think next month is German food.

Good to know. I will have to see if we have something like that here in our area. It would be nice to get together with other c/f couples. We have met other couples at restaurant/bars (after dinner cocktail) that we connect with and it never fails that they end up having kids.

how did you like Carnival??...I hear both good and really bad things about the ships..ie..cleanliness, the unfriendliness of the staff...but they have such good deals....DH and I are really looking into taking a cruise, but are finding it hard to pick a cruise line...

I have also done Carnival cruises, one out of New Orleans with my best friend when we celebrated our 40th b-days. That was on the Conquest and it's a beautiful ship. Very clean, the staff were very friendly and the food was excellent. Our stops were Jamaica, Grand Caymen & Cozumel. Then the second one was also with my best friend, and an ex co-worker & his partner who had relocated to Florida. We left out of Miami on a 4-night cruise to Key West & Cozumel. It was on an older ship, the Fascination, but it had just been refurbished that year. It was very clean, friendly staff, and seemed like a party ship, lots of different ages but everyone was there to have a good time. We paid $225 each for the cruise and I flew into Tampa for $218, my friend had drove from Alabama to pick me up and meet up with my friends in Venice, they we drove together down to Miami. It was definitely a nice cheap trip! And on both cruises I might have seen approximately 10 kids, they were never a problem. We are hoping to go again this October and DH is finally going to go along (he was always opposed to being "on a big ship in the middle of nowhere"), but when I got back and talked about all the fun we had and the ports he changed his mind. Now he's excited about going. My best friend lives in Birmingham, AL so we may leave out of Mobile, or we're thinking of doing a New Orleans one again and staying a couple extra days to party in N.O.

 

[ForTheLoveofDisney]

Popping in to say hi! If you remember, DH and I were the fencesitters who decided to TTC. Apparently, I can get pregnant just by washing DH's underwear but can't seem to stay that way! After a miscarriage (that was really sad and disappointing...don't get me wrong) I feel like I've been given a second chance! I can see us having one child maybe in five years or sometime in our 30's, but we're back in the fencesitter category for now. I'm all about enjoying life without a child right now and forever how long that lasts, I want to be around people without kids either!

I've missed intelligent conversation about something other than sippie cups, potty training, and ball practice!!!
Can I rejoin ya'll for a while? It's for my sanity!!

We joined our local No Kidding chapter (completely up front about our fencesitter status) and have our first get-together in a week and a half. I'm so excited!

How has everyone been? I have a lot of posts to catch up on.

Hi, plgrn! I just wanted you to know I completely understand the whole fencesitting thing. And it really is maddening at times. Sometimes I do wish I could just be done with it and be satisfied and content and KNOW that I DON'T want kids but then I'll have this stupid little twinge . I don't know about you but it's can really be frustrating. I'll just share a little bit of my experience (if you don't mind). When we first got married my DH was A-D-A-M-A-N-T he didn't want kids but he was only 19 and I was cough-cough 23 and I figured he'd grow into the idea. We didn't even try for like 2 years and I used birth control pills religiously. When I turned 25 I decided Iwas ready and it was Hhhhhhaaaarrrrddd to convince DH, now 21, that he was ready too. I don't think I had him all the way convinced. But I started trying. I've always had extremely excruciating cramps. I'm talking can't get out of bed wish I would DIE cramps!!! As long as I was on birth control pills I was fine but he very first month I didn't take them, the pain was back with a vengeance! At every doctor's visit I had w/ my gyno since the first time I went at 18 (but had the pain since onset of period) I always complained about the severe pain. They always told me that all girls have some discomfort with their periods. I crack up because this wasn't some "discomfort" I'm talking I physically got sick from the pain!! But for whatever reason I apparently didn't express that well enough to the doctors. They just gave me birth control pills and that was that. When I went off the pill at 25 we tried (or I tried) for a year. I did everything! Charted temps, laid there w/ legs in the air til my butt went numb. . . even tried a crazy fertility diet and NOTHING. I eat, slept, breathed TTC (it was making me a bit nutty). I went to the doctors told them we were trying (told them about the pain ) and they started doing a workup on me. I had a few tests done (by this time DH relented to being tested) and it was concluded they had no idea why we couldn't have kids and that we should be able to and just relax and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Finally, after about 2 more years a good friend of mine convinced me to see a fertility specialist. I actually had a lap w/ him and it was discovered I had stage 4 endo (there are ONLY 4 stages). But, he said he cauterized it and go ahead and try again. Again, I started to eat, sleep, dream, breath baby!! And NOTHING. I was totally obsessed and the terribly BAD thing was I had NO friends w/out kids!!! I thought I needed kids! I didn't know how to get off the crazy merry-go-round of TTC and I didn't like who I was becoming. We even tried adopting but the mother changed her mind last minute. It was at that point that something inside both me and DH snapped. And it was like in that moment we decided our life was/is A-OK without kids. I'm serious, it was almost instantaneously. I don't know if we were shocked back into reality or what but off the TTC merry-go-round we came!! I went back onto birth control pills (and the pain stopped) I finally was able to concentrate on my endo disease and seek a specialist. I had excision surgery and was given the ok to TTC. But, DH and I had different plans of selling our home, relocating to another state, heading into different career for DH. DH and I decided that we really did have a great life and quite frankly kids got on our NERVES!! When we really thought about it. We don't hate kids or even dislike them but they really do drive us crazy. We credit it to being settled in our lives and routine and kids disturb our peace. So I went back on the pill just incase (still no pain ).
But, we're finally settled in down here and I'm telling ya' there are still times when I have those passing moments of wanting a child. I don't know why, I can't explain it but there are times I'm right back on that fence. Times when I feel panicky. Like I said, I don't know why. I can't explain it and I still say it's maddending!! It's like you'll be go along living life, doing your own thing . . . and then you'll see the cutest baby and all of a sudden you'll get this twinge. I don't know, maybe I'm confusing gas or an eye twitch with the twinge. But, it's definately something and then you have these feelings like. "Should I??" "What if I regret it later when it's too late???"

Anyway, there's my like 6 year struggled condensed to two paragraphs.

One of the things that has been the biggest help for me was getting away from friends that all had kids. And one friend in particular that fueled my insanity (and that's all I'll say about that ).

I am sorry- I know everyone here has to say- "it's not like I do not like kids......" But guess what- I don't! I don't want a stranger's child hanging out bothering me on the beach or anywhere else for that matter- I could not even imagine what I would have done if the kid came over to me and was hanging out in "my space"


Sorry for the vent. But I am back!

You sound just like my DH!!

That must be such a luxury to "just know" I've got to get off this fence at some point. I'm getting a wedgie.

 

[ForTheLoveofDisney]

We have a No Kidding group here in W. Mass. & it is all about the food for us. About once a month we get together at a different restaurant for good food & conversation. Last month was an Indian restaurant, I think next month is German food.

I would to have one of these in our area!! I tried finding one when we lived in little 'ol Delaware and again when we moved down here. I thought, surely, there will be on in Greenville. Nope! I think DH and I would do well in a group like this. While I'm kind of outgoing DH is not unless he's familliar with you. In a group I think we could blossom as opposed to trying to make cold contacts. Plus, it would be wonderful to have a group where you know they're not going to have kids! Right now we're friends with a couple who, at this time, do not have kids. She's 23 and he's 30. They've had 2 miscarriages but I think they're going to try one more time (at least). So while it's all fun right now, I don't know that we'll remain bossom buddies if she has a kid. And our other friend is a batchelor right now. But he's started dating a girl and it looks like it's going to get serious and now he's rethinking the kid thing. 98% of the time I'm not into kids. DH, 100% of the time. How wonderful to have other friends who think like us. What's worse for us, we're Catholic and the Catholic mantra is "Procreate, Procreate, Procreate!!".

 

[Mozart]

This is my first time reading this thread. 3 things immediately caught my attentiong.

To the shyvioletisme - no kids here. Done 2 cruises on Disney. Will never do another cruise line again. If you like WDW, you'll love DCL. Yeah, it's more expensive than Carnival or RCCL, but it's worth it.

The second thing that caught my attention is that beautiful TigerPaw in the signature of ForTheLoveofDisney. Gotta love seeing something that beautiful on here!

As for this statement:

I thought, surely, there will be on in Greenville. Nope! I think DH and I would do well in a group like this. While I'm kind of outgoing DH is not unless he's familliar with you.

In Greenville?

 

[plgrn]

Hi, plgrn! I just wanted you to know I completely understand the whole fencesitting thing. And it really is maddening at times. Sometimes I do wish I could just be done with it and be satisfied and content and KNOW that I DON'T want kids but then I'll have this stupid little twinge . I don't know about you but it's can really be frustrating.

Like I said, I don't know why. I can't explain it and I still say it's maddending!! It's like you'll be go along living life, doing your own thing . . . and then you'll see the cutest baby and all of a sudden you'll get this twinge. I don't know, maybe I'm confusing gas or an eye twitch with the twinge. But, it's definately something and then you have these feelings like. "Should I??" "What if I regret it later when it's too late???"

My sentiments EXACTLY! At least you got completely off the fence at one point. I'm not even will to chart my cycle and take some herbs! Right now I'm leaning toward being childless and if I have regrets, looking into adoption. Adoption has always been on my heart, so we'll see. Although that will probably produce a whole other fence for me to sit on!

One of the things that has been the biggest help for me was getting away from friends that all had kids.

Yes, yes, yes!!! We have one set of friends our age without kids (who have no immediate plans for them either) and we have SO MUCH fun together. Whenever I'm around them I have no desire to procreate. That should tell me something! I don't mind people around people and their kids, but I need some balance! Whatever the future brings, I want to absolutely REVEL in the fact that I am not tied down with a child right now. Thank God for this thread and the No Kidding group. I know I'm not a "true" c/f woman, but thanks for letting me be included guys. It's so nice to discuss life without kids.

 

[plgrn]

What's worse for us, we're Catholic and the Catholic mantra is "Procreate, Procreate, Procreate!!".

Catholics and Mormons get the big family stereotype, but I'm telling you that Baptists are trying to enter the competition now! Our thing is getting married young (ok so we lived up to that one) and even if you don't have a bunch of kids, giving birth at least 2 or 3 times within the first 5 years of marriage. *sigh* We're the Baptist oddballs who don't have kids and like to watch Family Guy.

The more I think about it, maybe it's not a religious thing anymore so much as a society thing. For example, I was looking to meet some people in the area that shared similar interests (childed or not, whatever) so I went to Meetup.com. Everything in our area is either pagan/wiccan interests (what would be my Baptist witch name? ) or Moms of preschoolers. I swear to God there are at least 5 Mommy meetups here not to mention breastfeeding, potty-training, and natural birthing groups. Next, they will have a pagan/wiccan breastfeeding mothers of preschoolers meetup, but God-forbid we have anything for runners, scrapbookers, movie lovers, or anything else that defines us outside having offspring!

 

[plgrn]

You know the cute little iTink, iStitch, iJasmine avatars floating around? How about this one?

There is so much sarcastic childfree stuff out there...I'm loving it. Even the childed should appreciate these things....unless they are trolls with no sense of humor.

 

[ForTheLoveofDisney]

This is my first time reading this thread. 3 things immediately caught my attentiong.

Well, don't let it be your last, neighbor!!

To the shyvioletisme - no kids here. Done 2 cruises on Disney. Will never do another cruise line again. If you like WDW, you'll love DCL. Yeah, it's more expensive than Carnival or RCCL, but it's worth it.

The second thing that caught my attention is that beautiful TigerPaw in the signature of ForTheLoveofDisney. Gotta love seeing something that beautiful on here!

As for this statement:



In Greenville?

I know, I know. . . Now I know better.

I love the TigerPaw too!! DH and I both work at Clemson now. We're staff at the University and we love it!

My sentiments EXACTLY! At least you got completely off the fence at one point. I'm not even will to chart my cycle and take some herbs! Right now I'm leaning toward being childless and if I have regrets, looking into adoption. Adoption has always been on my heart, so we'll see. Although that will probably produce a whole other fence for me to sit on! .

Yea', I'd like to think I did but that still didn't mean that I didn't/don't get a prick in my heart when I'm around a baby and I still don't go out of my way to be around them. I'm not sure if it's because I *might* want one and I can't have one or if it's a bit of anger that I have no control over having one (which is NOT a good reason to have a kid!!!!! I'm at least sensible enought to know that that kind of thinking is just stupid selfishness).

Yes, yes, yes!!! We have one set of friends our age without kids (who have no immediate plans for them either) and we have SO MUCH fun together. Whenever I'm around them I have no desire to procreate. That should tell me something! I don't mind people around people and their kids, but I need some balance! Whatever the future brings, I want to absolutely REVEL in the fact that I am not tied down with a child right now. Thank God for this thread and the No Kidding group. I know I'm not a "true" c/f woman, but thanks for letting me be included guys. It's so nice to discuss life without kids.

I know, isn't that great? When I lived in Delaware I'm not even kidding when I say all of our friends had kids. I didn't even get the opportunity to know what fun it is to be around people that don't have kids. I just always felt like I was missing out. And who could help feel like that when you were surrounded by people telling you you were missing out and encouraging you to pursue whatever means possible to have them. It was like blasphemey to say you might not want them. And to have them preaching it like "Thus saith the Lord, 'You're not a good Christian/Catholic if you don't have them.'". There were times when I truly felt like a second class citizen. Now I'm sure people will say "Well you let them make you feel that way. . . No one can make you 'anything' without you letting them." And yes, that's probably true, but it's really easy to say something like that when they're not going through it or not in the middle of feeling helpless. Let's just say it was a bad time for me and I am SO thankful we had the opportunity to move!!

 

[Hixski]

If you read alot of the problems and questions people ask on the Families boards it might help with the fencesitting. If after reading how much trouble people have with schools, other mommies, other kids, etc, etc, etc you might not think being CF is so bad and jump for good to this side of the fence.

Look at it this way.......if you regret not having children you could still adopt later. If you have a child and realize later you weren't meant to have one......well that is a whole nother ballgame to deal with.

 

[lazydoxy66]

Hi all! This is a very interesting thread. I've always felt a little odd about my choice not to have children. I feel like I always have to explain why. Then sometimes I would feel guilty because I was able to have them while others wanted children and couldn't have any.
There have been a couple of people raise their eyebrows when I told them we were going to celebrate our 10th anniversary at DW. Hey, we want to have fun!! I can see from this whole forum site that my DH and I are not alone in thinking DW is great for adults too.

 

[starwarsdisney]

Hi all! This is a very interesting thread. I've always felt a little odd about my choice not to have children. I feel like I always have to explain why. Then sometimes I would feel guilty because I was able to have them while others wanted children and couldn't have any.
There have been a couple of people raise their eyebrows when I told them we were going to celebrate our 10th anniversary at DW. Hey, we want to have fun!! I can see from this whole forum site that my DH and I are not alone in thinking DW is great for adults too.

Your never too old for Disney. Some people say the same thing to my wife and I about not wanting kids and going to Disney for vacation. Were both big kids, so what if we would rather be at Disney World then some beach! By the way welcome to the thread.

 

[ForTheLoveofDisney]

...snipped.... The more I think about it, maybe it's not a religious thing anymore so much as a society thing. For example, I was looking to meet some people in the area that shared similar interests (childed or not, whatever) so I went to Meetup.com. Everything in our area is either pagan/wiccan interests (what would be my Baptist witch name? ) or Moms of preschoolers. I swear to God there are at least 5 Mommy meetups here not to mention breastfeeding, potty-training, and natural birthing groups. Next, they will have a pagan/wiccan breastfeeding mothers of preschoolers meetup, but God-forbid we have anything for runners, scrapbookers, movie lovers, or anything else that defines us outside having offspring!

I am cracking up over here!! Because you are so right!!! I tried meetup.com too but they didn't have ANYTHING for childfree and nothing else that interested me.

If you read alot of the problems and questions people ask on the Families boards it might help with the fencesitting. If after reading how much trouble people have with schools, other mommies, other kids, etc, etc, etc you might not think being CF is so bad and jump for good to this side of the fence.

Look at it this way.......if you regret not having children you could still adopt later. If you have a child and realize later you weren't meant to have one......well that is a whole nother ballgame to deal with.

You are so right. And I think that's why, now, I'm more and more at peace with our decision everyday. When DH and I look at the shape of the world as a whole plus throw in family problems, school problems, other mommy problems I really am glad I don't have a child in this mess.

And truth be told, we really are selfish with our lives and time. We like what we want when we want.

Hi all! This is a very interesting thread. I've always felt a little odd about my choice not to have children. I feel like I always have to explain why. Then sometimes I would feel guilty because I was able to have them while others wanted children and couldn't have any.
There have been a couple of people raise their eyebrows when I told them we were going to celebrate our 10th anniversary at DW. Hey, we want to have fun!! I can see from this whole forum site that my DH and I are not alone in thinking DW is great for adults too.

Happy Anniversary!! DH and I just celebrated our 10th. Not in Disney, though. We wanted too but we were in the middle of purchasing a new home.

 

[plgrn]

Hi all! This is a very interesting thread. I've always felt a little odd about my choice not to have children. I feel like I always have to explain why. Then sometimes I would feel guilty because I was able to have them while others wanted children and couldn't have any.
There have been a couple of people raise their eyebrows when I told them we were going to celebrate our 10th anniversary at DW. Hey, we want to have fun!! I can see from this whole forum site that my DH and I are not alone in thinking DW is great for adults too.

Congrats on your 10th!

 

[plgrn]

Has anyone ever taken a Sandals vacation? That's my dreeeeam trip. Actually, my dreeeeam trip would be if Disney bought a Sandals resort.

 

[maddhatir]

So how was your trip? Did you cruise or fly? What part of Mexico?

We did an all-inclusive (the only way to go!) for 7 days @ The Grand Sirenis in Riviera Maya (I will post some pics later) We flew into Cancun and it took us about 1.5 hours to get to Riviera Maya. This was our 3rd trip to Mexico- I LOVE., LOVE, LOVE it there! The people are so nice!

Our trip was good considering....DH was sick as a dog when we left- he started feeling a bit better by Tuesday and almost 100% by Friday-the day before we came home -- I hurt my back on Thursday while we were there- and I have NO idea how in the world I did it. It was so bad I had to visit the hotel doc Sat morning (the day we were leaving) @ 12:30am! He gave me an anti-inflammatory shot- but the pain did not budge. I am still in pain. Been to the ER on Sunday- shot up with morphine and toridol- again- neither did the trick- they gave me Valium to help with the spasms and that seems the help me a bit- I am not on 600mgs of Motrin and percocets- I got an MRI last night and I have a doc appt today-

Enough about my back- I LOVE MEXICO!! and everyone should go!

Has anyone ever taken a Sandals vacation? That's my dreeeeam trip. Actually, my dreeeeam trip would be if Disney bought a Sandals resort.

My SIL taught me this........Sandals, Dreams etc are just overpriced all-inclusives. My SIL has been just about everywhere you can think of that has all-inclusives- she will pick and go at any time- she just did it a week before we took our trip- she owns her own salon- she needed to get a way- she called her receptionist and said- cancel all next weeks appts- I am going to Mexico!

She says you can find an all-inclusive that is just as nice or better than Sandals etc you just have to look.

Personally I LOVE the RIU Hotels http://www.riu.com/en/hotels/index.html- we stayed at the RIU Cancun and they upgraded us to the RIU Palace in Riviera Maya 2 years ago and OMG- it was beautiful! Top notch! I would certainly go back to a RIU hotel in a heartbeat.

The Grand Sirenis, where we stayed this time, was nice- It was way too modern for me- I told DH I would probably not go back only b/c of that reason. The service, the grounds, the beach were all perfect- DH said he would go back to that particular hotel b/c the snorkeling was phenomenal! That says a lot for a resort when you do not need to leave the grounds to snorkel. You saw fish as soon as you stepped into the water up to you knees! DH was out snorkeling for hours on our last day.

 

[starwarsdisney]

And truth be told, we really are selfish with our lives and time. We like what we want when we want./QUOTE]

My wife and I are the same way. I can't imagine coming home from a long day at work and school and having to care for a child. We tell people that we are selfish and we like our life and lifestyle.

I also wanted to meantion that it's funny when friends have kids. It changes them and the relationship that you have with them changes. One of my groomsmen and a best friend from high school had kids. It changed our relationship with them. We tired to remain friends, but as time went on we just fell away from each other. I was sad at first, but now I understand that they wanted that lifestyle and we wanted another. In the end it's just life and the choices we make I guess. In fact most of our good friends (not all) are either single with no kids or are married with no kids. Both of are families are cool with our choice of not having kids. In fact both sides have said at some point or another that they could not see us having kids. We have nephews on my side and a niece on my wife's side. The family names will live on and we can at least give our nieces and nephews back. We do spoil them though. As for some kids of our own, NO DESIRE WHATSEVER and we like it that way!

 

[Shyvioletisme]

And truth be told, we really are selfish with our lives and time. We like what we want when we want./QUOTE]

.

I also wanted to mention that it's funny when friends have kids. It changes them and the relationship that you have with them changes. One of my groomsmen and a best friend from high school had kids. It changed our relationship with them. We tired to remain friends, but as time went on we just fell away from each other. I was sad at first, but now I understand that they wanted that lifestyle and we wanted another. In the end it's just life and the choices we make I guess. In fact most of our good friends (not all) are either single with no kids or are married with no kids. Both of are families are cool with our choice of not having kids. In fact both sides have said at some point or another that they could not see us having kids. We have nephews on my side and a niece on my wife's side. The family names will live on and we can at least give our nieces and nephews back. We do spoil them though. As for some kids of our own, NO DESIRE WHATSEVER and we like it that way!

I so worry about this...one of my best friends is engaged and getting married and she and her fiance want to have 3 or 4 kids...Our relationship has already changed a lot since she started dating the guy(ie all of our little group hate him) so we all worry that once they start having kids we just won't be seeing her. It makes me so sad to think of it because she is one of my closest friends, but her fiance really wants a different lifestyle.

 

[ForTheLoveofDisney]

My wife and I are the same way. I can't imagine coming home from a long day at work and school and having to care for a child. We tell people that we are selfish and we like our life and lifestyle.

You go to school to? That's awesome!! I really want to go back. I'm 33 now and it's like I've finally figured out what I *think* I want to do and it requires schooling. I work at a University but the one thing that sucks is we only get up to 6 credit hours a semester free and the Univ. doesn't cater to working adults. We are in the process of hiring a new Director (formerly called a Chair person) and one of the interviewees that we really liked talked about providing time for class work. I'm thinking, for now, I can get my 2 year degree at night at the community college and then figure out at that point how to finish at the University level. One step at a time or like Dory says, "Just keep swimming, just keep swimming." The task of a long journey can seem overwhelming at times but if you break it down into little steps it's not so bad (or so I keep telling myself).

I hurt my back on Thursday while we were there- and I have NO idea how in the world I did it. It was so bad I had to visit the hotel doc Sat morning (the day we were leaving) @ 12:30am! He gave me an anti-inflammatory shot- but the pain did not budge. I am still in pain. Been to the ER on Sunday- shot up with morphine and toridol- again- neither did the trick- they gave me Valium to help with the spasms and that seems the help me a bit- I am not on 600mgs of Motrin and percocets- I got an MRI last night and I have a doc appt today-

Ouch! I'm sorry to hear that happened on your vacation. Good luck at the doctor's today. Hopefully they'll find out what's causing you so much pain. Let us know.

I so worry about this...one of my best friends is engaged and getting married and she and her fiance want to have 3 or 4 kids...Our relationship has already changed a lot since she started dating the guy(ie all of our little group hate him) so we all worry that once they start having kids we just won't be seeing her. It makes me so sad to think of it because she is one of my closest friends, but her fiance really wants a different lifestyle.

See, I think that's the thing with the friend I've made down here. . . I really think she'd be fine without offspring (either biological or adopted). But, her DH seems to be the one who really wants them.

 

[plgrn]

Sorry about your back, Madd! Hope you feel better soon.

Thanks for the info about Sandals. I'm thinking of doing an all-inclusive sometime in the the 5 years, so that will give me time to do homework. DH is a little...how shall I put this delicately...CHEAP! so I think an all-inclusive paid for up front trip would be great for us. That's one thing I loved about our cruise: He wasn't agonizing if I ordered a dessert or the most expensive thing on the menu. Gotta love him!