Major Rumor Marvel in ToT update page 25

[rteetz]

Sounds like he spoke to soon and now he's back peddling. I'm sure he'll claim it was his letter writing campaign that saved ToT though.

He's been telling people to contact execs about China, and cuts though too so. He's got a point that contacting guest services isn't going to accomplish much.

 

[Goofy2015]

Tower of Terror is trending more and more on Twitter. I am hoping the Disney executives get the message that or retheme Expedition Everest to Ant-Man, why stop at Guardians of the Galaxy.

 

[mikepizzo]

Tower of Terror is trending more and more on Twitter. I am hoping the Disney executives get the message that or retheme Expedition Everest to Ant-Man, why stop at Guardians of the Galaxy.

Howard Stark's Universe of Energy?

 

[Goofy2015]

Howard Stark's Universe of Energy?

I can't wait for Disney to acquire all of the theme park rights for Marvel from Universal to create the brand new "The Incredible Hulk's Journey Into Imagination"

 

[EricInPA]

Tower of Terror is trending more and more on Twitter.

Twitter trends are regional and based on your follower/following network. Most of my trends are hockey related as that's what I generally use twitter for, so it's probable Disney will see it, but I wouldn't count on it.

 

[rteetz]

Twitter trends are regional and based on your follower/following network. Most of my trends are hockey related as that's what I generally use twitter for, so it's probable Disney will see it, but I wouldn't count on it.

I follow a lot of Disney Twitter and there is a lot of talk about it.

 

[EricInPA]

Just clarifying on twitter trends, maybe Disney takes notice of it, but considering this is a rumor for "2017 or 2018", it will go to the back burner of twitter within a week.

 

[rteetz]

Just clarifying on twitter trends, maybe Disney takes notice of it, but considering this is a rumor for "2017 or 2018", it will go to the back burner of twitter within a week.

That is true.

 

[DDLand]

If you look at it that way marvel and lucasfilm aren't franchises either. Star Wars itself would be the franchise iron man would be a franchise etc.

Exactly. Though it gets messy with Marvel because you have multiple franchises that come together into one universe. So the Marvel Cinematic Universe is a franchise of Marvel. Though I'm getting off topic. Lol

 

[nilla]

I'd also note that the final part of the post gets into ludicrous territory. It starts discussing Warner wanting Universal to build DC based rides. Fans of the history of IoA would know that Marvel Superhero island was originally designed as Gotham. They already blew that chance. DC is still second fiddle in the movie market and branding wise. It would make no sense for Universal to give up their iron grip on the marvel rights just to spend tons of money rethemeing to a lesser brand. It is lost income during closure, lost money on rethemes, and all for what? Walking away from characters that Disney is giving tons of free value too?

Not to mention, I think Six Flags already has D.C..

 

[rteetz]

Not to mention, I think Six Flags already has D.C..

I don't think it would be that hard for Comcast to get those rights though. And it won't take six flags a lot to retheme what they have except for maybe their new joker dark rides.

 

[BrianL]

I just read that Tower of Terror rumor on another board. I can usually roll with the changes, but not this one! It's a ridiculous idea and would gut one of Disney's best attractions! I really hope this never comes to pass.

 

[eXo]

I don't think it would be that hard for Comcast to get those rights though. And it won't take six flags a lot to retheme what they have except for maybe their new joker dark rides.

You underestimate DC"s presence in six flags parks. Here in Texas they are opening an entirely new Gotham area this summer. A Catwoman's Whip ride, a Harley Quinn spinner, and a Riddler's Revenge coaster. This fits in with the already installed Batmans and Freeze coasters. The same goes for every other 6 Flags park, the DC/Looney Tunes licenses are the last ones they have after giving up all the rest around 2010.

Is retheming possible? Sure, but at what cost? 6Flags over Texas alone would have the retheme nearly a third of the park, most of it being brand new. The cost of retheming every single on of their parks, along with the lost revenus of having these attractions closed in the process and the lost value of having licenseless rides, and the lost sales of DC merch are all big pills to swallow.

So sure, it's possible, but why would Six Flags want that to happen?

Now, if Warner Bros absolutely wanted to pull the license from Six Flags, they actually can. They have escape clauses in their contract, and the only reason Six Flags HAS these licenses to begin with was because they used to be ownded by Time Warner.

Either way though, you have to assume Universal would actually want to
A: Give up rights to the, undeniably, bigger brand
B: Take 1/5 of IOA down for a complete refurb/retheme for a good portion of a year or more
C: Want to tackle something like this when they have major construction plotted out to 2020 currently
D: End up giving Disney something back they can then roundly use to attack the exact same demographic that Universal has leads in - teenage boys and young men.

Consider these notions as well:
*Hulk will have just reopened when these negotiations start
*Spider-Man can't simply be "rethemed". A whole new movie, ride motion, sets, queueu, etc have to be built in
*Universal turns over a ton of merch currently. They'd have to walk away from all that
*There have been strong rumors that they are actually going in the opposite direction and *adding* rides to the area.
*The value of something like the DC license is heavily hinged on the performance of Batman vs Superman and Suicide Squad. If they don't do well (as in amazing), you can kiss any chance of DC getting out of Six Flags goodbye.
*Even if Disney got Marvel, the best anyone can hope for over the next 4-5 years is some rethemes, parades, and M&Gs. Their construction schedule is pretty full right now. And there won't be a 5th gate just for Marvel, which means you get to have it shoehorned into an existing park. Considering MK is at near capacity, DHS and AK are getting huge upgrades currently, that means Future World is where it would most likely get dropped. Proceed to riot.

 

[Slayd]

Haven't read every post, so not sure if this has been brought up yet. What has me perplexed here is how the facade change would work. A dramatic change could not occur, as remember, ToT is designed to match Morocco in Epcot.

A spaceship or GotG type architecture would really goof up the World Showcase. I have to have faith that Disney isn't that wreckless.

 

[rteetz]

Haven't read every post, so not sure if this has been brought up yet. What has me perplexed here is how the facade change would work. A dramatic change could not occur, as remember, ToT is designed to match Morocco in Epcot.

A spaceship or GotG type architecture would really goof up the World Showcase. I have to have faith that Disney isn't that wreckless.

According to the source the outside would stay fairly similar.

 

[jade1]

* Disney would negotiate to have Universal drop its exclusive rights to exclusive theme park rights east of the Mississippi.

The Mississippi ends at 29 degrees north and DHS is at 28, hard to be east of something that isn't west of you right?

 

[eXo]

Har har

 

[JennaDeeDooDah]

I just read that Tower of Terror rumor on another board. I can usually roll with the changes, but not this one! It's a ridiculous idea and would gut one of Disney's best attractions! I really hope this never comes to pass.

Horrible idea, isn't it? You're tossing around the idea of changing one of the best themed (if not the best themed) rides on property for Guardians of the Galaxy? Change something else. Or - gasp - here's a novel idea: BUILD SOMETHING NEW!

 

[skier_pete]

Or - gasp - here's a novel idea: BUILD SOMETHING NEW!

Well - that argument would've worked two years ago - but the fact is they ARE building something new. At least two new lands, probably three new lands, and possibly FOUR new lands for DHS, so criticizing them for re-theming one ride there by saying they should build new...they are building new also.

Again, I can't get too worked up about this because it makes no sense. This is the same group of folks can't take Expedition Everest down for 4 weeks to fix the Yeti. You really think their gonna shut down ToT for several months in a park that's already half closed and has only 5 rides?

 

[PuppyJonathan]

Or - gasp - here's a novel idea: BUILD SOMETHING NEW!

Not the place for this but I think they should do some little things like B-Tickets and C-Tickets, something quick and easy to build