Major Rumor Marvel in ToT update page 25

[EricInPA]

See what I mean

 

[skier_pete]

Simple, you just have to pick an IP with a cult following that is not currently at the forefront of popular culture. Maybe people would enjoy a Labyrinth overlay more

So you're saying they should go with the Twin Peaks overlay of Tower of Terror?

 

[Josh Hendy]

Maybe someone is pulling the rumor-monger's leg on the ToT concept.

Remember how Jim Hill was nullified a few months ago when someone who claimed that they were tired of his attitude took steps to discredit him.

Or they are merely using him as a way of floating a trial balloon that they're too timid to float by other means. It could be that Disney insider 'A' had an idea that insider 'B' thinks is ridiculous but can't openly tell them, so 'B' leaks it to the fan community instead who are happy to do whatever ridiculing is required.

 

[rteetz]

Maybe someone is pulling the rumor-monger's leg on the ToT concept.

Remember how Jim Hill was nullified a few months ago when someone who claimed that they were tired of his attitude took steps to discredit him.

Or they are merely using him as a way of floating a trial balloon that they're too timid to float by other means. It could be that Disney insider 'A' had an idea that insider 'B' thinks is ridiculous but can't openly tell them, so 'B' leaks it to the fan community instead who are happy to do whatever ridiculing is required.

I kind of hope this is the case but I'm not sure.

 

[luisov]

True, but to me it's a tad different there. I personally wouldn't reconsider a trip based on food prices. I go to the baseball game or any sporting event knowing a beer costs me $7-$9 which is ridculous as I can get an entire 6 pack for that or that a hot dog costs me $6-$7 where I know I can get a package of 16 name brand hot dogs for under $6. Heck the movie theater it costs over $22 for a large drink and a pop corn. I understand your point though in that by buying the overpriced food we've given out consent to continue overpricing the food (though I've seen a lot of people point the finger more or less at the "free dining" promotion for raising the food prices).

I was just using the food as an example, but yeah, that's a pattern that is becoming more and more common throughout WDW... Overpriced food, overpriced hotel rooms, overpriced merchandise... I'm a business person myself, so I kind of understand the strategy Disney is using: raise prices as long as people are willing to pay them. Many companies would love to be able to charge more for their product while actually decreasing the quality and get away with it. We just keep feeding the machine.

I do think that the penny-pinching mentality that seems to be taking over Parks and Resorts is Iger's fault, though. We can't really blame Eisner for not spending money in that particular area of the company.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Here's something I find amusing (and maybe Ironic too?) :

Disney Fans LOVE the Haunted Mansion overlay at DLR - they lament that Disney won't do the same thing in Florida.

Disney Fans hear they might do a temporary overlay on Tower of Terror in DHS - Disney Fans HATE this idea.

I don't know much about DLR (last time I was there I was 2 lol) what's different between the Haunted Mansion at DLR?

 

[pork]

I don't know much about DLR (last time I was there I was 2 lol) what's different between the Haunted Mansion at DLR?

It has a Nightmare Before Christmas overlay that gets put up for the holidays.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I was just using the food as an example, but yeah, that's a pattern that is becoming more and more common throughout WDW... Overpriced food, overpriced hotel rooms, overpriced merchandise... I'm a business person myself, so I kind of understand the strategy Disney is using: raise prices as long as people are willing to pay them. Many companies would love to be able to charge more for their product while actually decreasing the quality and get away with it. We just keep feeding the machine.

I do think that the penny-pinching mentality that seems to be taking over Parks and Resorts is Iger's fault, though. We can't really blame Eisner for not spending money in that particular area of the company.

Yeah you know a few hrs after I responded to you I was like..."they probably meant metaphorically not necessarily literally" lol but my response is still what I do think about food prices.

My honest opinion on the thought process of "disney does what it does because we allow it" is that yes it is true but how many other destination places does the average person plan 1-2 years in advance, booking a resort room that far in advance, picking dining options 6 months in advance, etc? While it didn't use to be the case (like my last trip in 2011 I reserved an off-site room probably 3 or 4 months in advance, bought tickets 3 weeks in advance, and did general research about what things I would want to do at WDW and USO about 4 months in advance) Disney has made it so the overall investment to going is very high.

If I backed out of my trip for September 2017 now (which I currently do not have plans to back out) I would be out about $123 which is the 5% of both WDW and USO tickets that UT would keep if I returned them. But If you caught me this September (when I'm going to be booking my resort rooms) I would be out over $2,400 on just the rooms alone (and that's at 2016 prices and I know 2017 prices will only be higher). Once you've made your commitment to the point where financially, emotionally (like if you told your kids/family member you were planning on the trip), and time-wise (planning, budgeting, etc) it's very difficult to back out.

Now a person might say then "after this trip I won't be back for a while if at all" and Disney would be like "ok we've got someone to take your place". I honestly think it's going to take something so large to stop this wayward train (like a financial crisis that halts future or last minute plannings, gas pricing-in part at least going up to $4 a gallon again, or heaven forbid a tragedy though I shudder just typing that).

Don't hate on me though it's just my rambling mind here spouting my opinion.

 

[Goofy2015]

As mentioned by others above, I really hope that this is a rumor being circulated to see the reaction. It is quite obvious that the reaction is completely negative. I would consider Tower of Terror the centerpiece ride of Hollywood Studios. The queue, exterior, ride, everything about the ride has great theming. The ride has remained very popular over 22 years with usually 90 minute waits.

I am not sure what the cost is to maintain the rights to The Twilight Zone from CBS, but I think they are more then worth it, I am sure there is a cost to maintain the rights to using Aerosmith, which probably are more then the rights to The Twilight Zone. Even if Disney wanted to be the cheap bully, they can just retheme it to the Hollywood Tower of Terror, which I would be totally fine with.

Not only does the ride have a great theme and popularity, the building itself is such a great sight to see walking down Sunset Blvd. A Guardians of the Galaxy retheming of the ride makes absolutely no sense. This may be the dumbest idea, suggestion, uttering of words of all time. It would ruin the casual walk down Sunset Blvd, Guardians of the Galaxy takes place entirely in space or a prison, theming a giant building in a small park to a meaningless character like the Collector is terrible. There are so many wrongs with this idea. Also, they are trying to implement this during a time that the park has nothing to offer.

Hollywood Studios has very little to offer at the moment and if you take away the centerpiece ride, you have nothing to offer, in my opinion. If this happens, I know I will not visit Hollywood Studios until Star Wars Land is open. I hope their attendance will take a drastic hit to this idea.

It doesn't take many brain cells to think that maybe Rock 'N' Roller Coaster should get the retheme to Guardians of the Galaxy.

Maybe I am overacting to a rumor, but I would rather overact and Disney see more of a negative response then Disney not hear anything and decide to implement the idea.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

It has a Nightmare Before Christmas overlay that gets put up for the holidays.

Ohhh I see..does it make me a bad person to say that actually sounds pretty neat?? That's meaning I find it neat as a temporary overlap not a permenant one. Regardless of the fact that I only go to WDW I wouldn't want to permenantly alter a classic ride at either location.

 

[rteetz]

Ohhh I see..does it make me a bad person to say that actually sounds pretty neat?? That's meaning I find it neat as a temporary overlap not a permenant one. Regardless of the fact that I only go to WDW I wouldn't want to permenantly alter a classic ride at either location.

No it doesn't most people love it and would want it to come to WDW.

 

[3DisneyFanz]

Here's something I find amusing (and maybe Ironic too?) :

Disney Fans LOVE the Haunted Mansion overlay at DLR - they lament that Disney won't do the same thing in Florida.

Disney Fans hear they might do a temporary overlay on Tower of Terror in DHS - Disney Fans HATE this idea.

I think people accept it because it kind of fits. You announce Jack Skellington will be joining Splash Mountain and I don't think the response would be the same.

 

[SureAsLiz]

Here's something I find amusing (and maybe Ironic too?) :

Disney Fans LOVE the Haunted Mansion overlay at DLR - they lament that Disney won't do the same thing in Florida.

Disney Fans hear they might do a temporary overlay on Tower of Terror in DHS - Disney Fans HATE this idea.

The difference between the TNBC overlay and this one is that TNBC ties in really well with HM, and is a known-to-be temporary attraction. The overall idea of the afterlife mixing with regular life is present in both. There are obvious points of comparison (like the graveyard) that don't require a fundamental shift in the attraction itself

With TOT/GOTG, there is no obvious tie in. And GOTG is not the cult icon that TNBC is.
The movie itself also doesn't stand alone in the MCU. The infinity stones are integral to the Avengers story now that Vision in the picture. Trying to include some of the Avengers but not all isn't something I see going well in the future, especially if Vision's role grows in the MCU in/following Cap3


I've also noticed there's a general approval to overlay RnRC, so it's not that people are against overlays at all. There just needs to be a legitimate reason and a logical tie-in to do so

 

[Eoghann]

Here's something I find amusing (and maybe Ironic too?) :

Disney Fans LOVE the Haunted Mansion overlay at DLR - they lament that Disney won't do the same thing in Florida.

Disney Fans hear they might do a temporary overlay on Tower of Terror in DHS - Disney Fans HATE this idea.

I'd make two distinctions:

1) Haunted Mansion is a seasonal overlay (we're talking months at most) while this is being referred to as "temporary" which in Disney language could mean 5 years...
2) The Haunted Mansion overlay makes sense thematically while ToT to GotG... I'm not seeing that one at all.

 

[Indy #1 Fan]

Soo can we impeach Iger and anyone else responsible for the mess Disney Parks is slowly or rapidly (depending on your viewpoint) becoming??

And replace him with a CEO who will completely cut ties with Marvel and even Lucasfilm. Someone who hates franchises and will attempt to run the parks the way he thinks Walt would've done.

 

[rteetz]

And replace him with a CEO who will completely cut ties with Marvel and even Lucasfilm. Someone who hates franchises and will attempt to run the parks the way he thinks Walt would've done.

How about someone who likes both? Pixar is a franchise too so are you saying get rid of them? I don't care they have marvel and lucasfilm. They can surely own them and invest in the parks they have the money for it.

 

[Spacedog1975]

And replace him with a CEO who will completely cut ties with Marvel and even Lucasfilm. Someone who hates franchises and will attempt to run the parks the way he thinks Walt would've done.

I don't see Marvel or Lucasfilm being bad for Disney or for Parks & Resorts.

 

[Indy #1 Fan]

How about someone who likes both? Pixar is a franchise too so are you saying get rid of them? I don't care they have marvel and lucasfilm. They can surely own them and invest in the parks they have the money for it.

Pixar can stay and I don't like Marvel, I like DC better because of Superman.

I don't see Marvel or Lucasfilm being bad for Disney or for Parks & Resorts.

Marvel and Lucasfilm have prevented Disney from creating anything of their own. It's like they've run out of ideas and are too chicken to take risks like Walt because they are afraid they will lose money like they did after DCA originally opened. So they felt no choice but to purchase other people's ideas instead.

 

[rteetz]

Pixar can stay and I don't like Marvel, I like DC better because of Superman.

Marvel and Lucasfilm have prevented Disney from creating anything of their own. It's like they've run out of ideas and are too chicken to take risks like Walt because they are afraid they will lose money like they did after DCA originally opened. So they felt no choice but to purchase other people's ideas instead.

Really? Zootopia is a Walt Disney Studios original and just had the biggest opening in company history.

Also just because you don't like something doesn't mean it should go or that everyone else feels the same.

 

[MommaBerd]

So, I haven't checked in for a while and WHOA! Crushing rumor!

In the slim chance that Disney people actually poke their noses into these forums, I want to chime in my strongest disapproval of retheming ToT! Have your way with RnRC... I love the ride, but I always thought that theming a bit out of place anyway. But ToT is a shining example of theming in a Disney park!