Magical Express a mess this morning!

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We stayed off site and used Mears Transportation to and from MCO, it was like 30$ round trip for me and my son, from MCO we were in a shared shuttle but from hotel to MCO a nice SUV, im not sure what DME cost, but it is a bus so there is going to be issues with loading and unloading and obviously being on time lol!! Sorry you had this prob but i bet your vacation was a blast! Cheers!
 
Hi All,

Just got back today from a wonderful vacation at Disney staying at Pop Century. We had a great time :cool1: Loved Star Wars weekend :)

This morning was frustrating though, you know how you are bumming anway because you are leaving and headed back to reality. Our flights were at 9:50am so I knew when I booked that our Magical Express back to the airport would be in the 6am/7am time frame. We got our envelope on the door a day prior with 6:45am pick up.

We complete our airline check-in at 6:15, grab a quick cup of coffee and are at the bus pick-up area at 6.30am. We were told by the bellman at Airline check in that the 6:15am bus is running late and that the two buses (6.15am and 6.45am) would arrive together.

At 6.40am the 6:15am bus arrives and loads the 6.15am passengers, one of the other couples waiting asks the driver if he is taking the 6.45am passengers as well. The driver informed those waiting that he could only take the 6.15 passengers. No problem we understand and anyway the 6.45 bus should be arriving soon based on what as the bellman had stated at our airline check-in.

7:00am rolls around and a non-uniformed (shirt and slacks) Disney manager comes out and asks if anyone waiting was taking an international flight. The one family who were traveling internationally were put into a taxi to the Airport. No other information was provided to anyone else in the bus pick-up area. We start to get worried and my DH walks over to talk to this Disney manager who had walked back to the hotel enterance. He told DH our bus would be there shortly, he'd called the company. We relayed this information to some of the others waiting with us.

We waited some more and still no bus. DH talks to the Disney guy again and this time the converstation is it's not Disney's fault it's the contracted company and the manager kinda shrugs his shoulders. Information is still only provided to those who walk back to the hotel enterance and ask. Finally the 7.15am bus arrives at 7.35am and they manange to load everyone on to the one bus. The bus driver stated that there were not enough Magical Express buses available to be dispatched this morning and there never was 6.45am bus dispatched. He also stated that the three hours departure from the hotel to is account for problems.

So I have two main problems with what happened this morning:

1. I book my vacation with Disney and if they choose to contract out a service they advertise as a benefit they should not point fingers at each other when it goes wrong. I have written enough contracts to know you can add in avenues to deal with contigencies and problems. I could understand if there was a sudden mechanical failure or traffic problem this morning but this was an issue that could have been predicted or was certainly known about prior to 6:00am this morning. If this was in fact a problem with not enough Magical Expess busses being available this morning - who's fault is that Mears or Disney?

2. I fulfilled my part of the contract I had with Disney and Magical Express this morning by being at the bus pick-up 15 minutes before my scheduled departure time. This was not an accident, bus broke down on the way or traffic back up. My concern is why is there no consistent communication avenue/tool between Mears, who provide the Magical Express transportation, and someone at the hotel who can relay reliable accurate information to those waiting? I can appreaciate that problems can and will occur but why is there not someone who could come out and tell us exactly what was going on and what was being done to get us to the airport and when. Instead if fingers being pointed and everyone disowning the problem? That could be written into any contract.

Anyhoo just a small bump in what was a great vacation. We were just glad that security wasn't backed up at the Airport this morning :rolleyes1

It looks like ME service is slipping. We had an experience similar to yours last October when we were going home. Our bus never showed up...and it seems like no one from Disney monitors the situation. To make matters worse when the driver finally arrived he told everyone standing at the bus stop (by this time it was for our earlier bus that never came and for a people waiting on a later bus) that they should get on the bus if they can because their bus isn't coming any time soon either. Then everyone is pushing and shoving to get on the bus, and people scheduled to take the later bus are actually getting on ahead of people who have a flight leaving in an hour and half! People were complaining to the driver and he was super mean and said if we were gonna miss our flight to exit the bus and take it up with Disney.

We got to the airport and to our gate with 10 minutes to spare before loading. It was such a stressful way to end an otherwise great trip. I complained to Disney after I got home but it doesn't appear that they made any meaningful changes. Makes me nervous to use ME on our upcoming trip.
 
I'm puzzled by the Disney defenders here. Yes, the op made the flight but it shouldn't have been so stressful. Ending a trip with a bad taste is not what Disney is going for. I think there is room for improvement in the dispatch and keeping guests informed areas.

To me, the most magical part is getting a rental car and not stressing.
 
Vacationclub, as the OP I do not like your implication that we were anything but polite to the Disney staff members.
I didn't mean to imply that, I said "it's possible if...." I asked you about the details of the interaction that is the primary basis for most of your complaint and this entire thread. You say they pointed fingers, but didn't really detail how, or the context in which any statements like that were made.

I also don't think we can make any guess at the level of training that the non-uniformed CM (shirt and slacks, who I took to be a manager) has received. He obviously knew something was wrong when he wisked the international passengers into the taxi and left the bus waiting area. He could have stated at that time, to the other guests waiting, that there was a problem and they were informed that the 6.45am bus would arrive right behind the late 6.15am bus and that it was being worked.
He knew something was wrong for them....which is why he wished them away. The fact that they only asked about international folks, and knew others were there but didn't ask about them or put them into a taxi, to me says they realize we're here but don't feel this will affect us. And you already knew about the 6:15 and 6:45 buses at that point according to your OP. You said that the luggage people already told you this.

When he informed us that the 6.45am bus was on it's way this again was incorrect information, as per the bus driver a 6.45am bus was never dispatched.
Yes, but perhaps the first person didn't really know this, or simply didn't want to tell you the nitty-gritty details that really don't affect you anyway. His job was to get you to the airport, not reveal the inner workings of Mears and DME that morning, regardless of your curiosity.

We waited what we felt was a resonable time before going back to him at the hotel lobby to ask again if he could provide us an update. That is when he disowned the problem, shrugged his shoulders and blamed Mears. I understand that this is probably what he had been told by Mears. But that doesn't make the situation and poor information something we should just accept because we made our flight.

Of course it does. The fact that everything worked out fine makes everything else moot. It proves that you, indeed, had nothing to worry about, despite your instinct to worry. Perhaps he revealed his frustration with the situation, or with you asking again, or both. Perhaps he has way more experience at this than you and really wasn't that worried about this and knew, based on doing this on a daily basis, that you would still be making it to the airport. If you had said to him "will we make it to the airport OK", his answer would have been interesting, but you didn't ask that, you seemed to just want to know exactly when the bus would come, and he didn't know.

I would prefer a system that can provide better information to guests when a problem occurs or as you say maybe Disney needs to provide better training to the frontline managers in this situation. As I said it was a mess and I I lost confidence in anything we were being told. Thankfully the 7.15am bus was dispatched and we were accomdated on that bus.
Everyone would love more of everything. Sometimes that's just not possible. Based on the incredible track record of DME, I'm willing to give them some slack. I think the one thing they could have done here is simply say "don't worry, everything will be fine" to reassure guests that didn't seem to have faith in them. Again, perhaps a training thing especially for some who don't deal directly with the public quite as much.

I guess using your logic if there seems to be a problem, and the information we were given was incorrect, then we should just have sat there waiting for 50 minutes to see if it would correct itself. We had no way of knowing when a bus that could take us would arrive and what we had been told twice was wrong. We should have no expectation of being updated on the situation. :confused3
You said that he told you they were coming shortly. So you DID have a way of knowing that a bus was coming, just not exactly when...perhaps he didn't know exactly.

You knew that they knew you were there waiting. You knew that they knew the bus was coming, which it did. Except for knowing exactly at what time the bus for you was going to roll up, you had pretty much all the basic info needed to know that Disney was aware of the problem and working on it for you and the others that were wisked to the airport. At least according to your account of this situation.
 

I'm puzzled by the Disney defenders here. Yes, the op made the flight but it shouldn't have been so stressful. Ending a trip with a bad taste is not what Disney is going for. I think there is room for improvement in the dispatch and keeping guests informed areas.

Disney can improve dispatch, etc. They can't improve people's stress, that's up to people.
 
We stayed off site and used Mears Transportation to and from MCO, it was like 30$ round trip for me and my son, from MCO we were in a shared shuttle but from hotel to MCO a nice SUV, im not sure what DME cost, but it is a bus so there is going to be issues with loading and unloading and obviously being on time lol!! Sorry you had this prob but i bet your vacation was a blast! Cheers!

DME is free.
 
we had a problem arrived early for our bus waited for over an hour people were getting nervous. finally bus arrived very late, everyone was nervous to get to the their flights on time.
Then someone one on the bus called magical express and told them what happened and they would not made their flight on time.
they had only 3/4 hour to made their flight.
then the bus drivers phone rang we were told that the bus was going to the arrival planes for us to get off.
wow they did work to help why it was late i think it was the driver fault.
all we know is that the compnay corrected a problem .
he made his flight i hope we did.
it was different but the company once they knew there was a problem corrected it.
 
I'm puzzled by the Disney defenders here. Yes, the op made the flight but it shouldn't have been so stressful. Ending a trip with a bad taste is not what Disney is going for. I think there is room for improvement in the dispatch and keeping guests informed areas.

To me, the most magical part is getting a rental car and not stressing.

If Mickey Mouse, himself, came out, lit your luggage on fire and then spit on you, there would still be people here that would defend him. That's how it works here sometimes.
 
And they got the OP there in time.


If they made the flight, and didn't have any rush through the airport....how did they drop the ball?




Actually, that's exactly what it is. They did exactly what they were supposed to do, which is get the OP to the airport for their flight. Instead of getting them there ridiculously early like normal, they ate into their time buffer and got them there closer to a normal, or even a no-time-to-spare arrival, but they still got there on time.......right?

Soooo.....if there was an accident or a traffic jam or who knows what else that could cause the exact same situation...wouldn't that also cause the exact same stress? Even if Disney had nothing to do with it? Who would be dropping the ball then? Whose forum would there be a complaint on?


Was there a rush to get to a flight? I tried to look at every post from the OP, and the answer to that question still alludes me. How "late" was the OP? From the description it seems about 50 minutes late from being 2 hours early....so....basically on time.


You did? DME's main purpose is to get you to the airport 2 hours prior? That's their "promise"? Where is it stated that is their "promise"?

Why? You don't believe that the very reason they pick you up very early is because sometimes things happen and they want lots of extra time just in case? You tell Disney your flight time, they do the rest. THEY decide how early to get you, and how to plan for contingencies. The contingencies worked perfectly. Good for Disney! The only problem being complained out in the OP is the mixed....not lack of....but mixed communication. The luggage check in told them they were running late that day. They acknowledged that they knew about the issues. You have a reservation. It has a bar code. They know who has and who has not yet been picked up. They even asked about international travelers and put them in a cab....another sign that there were on top of things.

I agree with both statements. You don't need that stress, and there is a problem. But ultimately it wasn't a problem that caused a problem for YOU, or in this case the OP. It was Disney's problem.....not yours. You or the OP may have had stress because they didn't trust Disney to get you/them there after they weren't there 3 hours early, but that stress turned out to be unjustified, at least according to the story so far. If someone had to run through an airport or missed a flight, I would understand the logic for this thread.

I'm curious, if you had a 2 hour layover, and the first plane was late for (insert a reason here), and that 2 hour layover turned into a 1 hour layover, and you still made your connecting flight with no issues, would you be demanding that hour of your life back that you were "promised"? Just askin'. :confused3
I am not going to defend each one of my points here. I have been using DME since it began. There is no bigger Disney lover than I. BUT....MCO officialy recommends that you get there 2 hrs prior to flight time. It is up to us to get there in time.

Whether or not you agree with my desire to adhere to MCO's policy makes no difference to me. I fully realize that 'stuff' happens. But, when I am given a pickup time, based on my flight, and told that I may not be able to be accommodated on a later bus, then I fully expect that Disney/DME will hold up their end of the bargain. It isn't fair to expect guests to spend the last hour or so of their vacation, standing around, waiting for a bus. They could have been doing something else. Either put buses on an every 30 min schedule and you can board any bus you choose, or dispatch buses correctly.
It's wrong to tell a guest when to arrive for their bus and then to not provide a bus.

OH, and the RAC people telling the guest that the buses were late??? Funny thing about that...RAC has absolutely nothing to do with DME. Sure, they may give out info, but that info is nothing I would 'take to the bank'. They have no way of knowing exactly what is going on with the buses. Other than perhaps overhearing a driver saying something to someone else.

Disney told their guest when to go to the bus stop, what time they would be picked up. The guest planned accordingly. Disney did not provide the service they promised. They inconvenienced their guest...and that is supposed to be a huge no-no!!! I want to be at the airport 90 mins prior to my departure. That way I can get through security, use the restroom, buy some snacks, relax a bit. I don't enjoy having to rush...and any arrival time that gets me to the airport less than 75 mins prior to departure is stressful for me. If that time is okay for you...terrific. But others don't want that scenario. And Disney has contracted with them to get them to the airport at least 2 hrs prior to departure...that's why they pick you up 3-3.5 hrs in advance.

And that change in layover time?? Nope, wouldn't bother me at all. BUT...if that change meant that I might not make my connection?? You bet I would be expecting help getting to the next gate in a timely fashion!!
 
If Mickey Mouse, himself, came out, lit your luggage on fire and then spit on you, there would still be people here that would defend him. That's how it works here sometimes.
Yep, they would say...'But hey...Mickey tried putting it out himself. How wonderful. What great service!!!'

I love Disney. But I also realize that Disney sometimes drops the ball...they don't give what they promise to. Yes, many people have unrealistic expectations sometimes....I know it's all about the 'magic and the pixiedust'. But in all reality??? Sometimes things just don't work the way they are supposed to.
 
Yep, they would say...'But hey...Mickey tried putting it out himself. How wonderful. What great service!!!'

I love Disney. But I also realize that Disney sometimes drops the ball...they don't give what they promise to. Yes, many people have unrealistic expectations sometimes....I know it's all about the 'magic and the pixiedust'. But in all reality??? Sometimes things just don't work the way they are supposed to.
Yup exactly. I believe that Disney is the largest single site employer in the country (maybe even the world). It's unrealistic to thing that everything will go smoothly all the time. Things happen, people have bad days, some CM's may be rude. It's how Disney deals with these situations that counts. Sometimes they drop the ball (as it seems they might have done in this case) but I'd like to think that 99% of the time the fix the things that went wrong.

I'm betting that the family that was traveling international has a completely different perspective of this same incident. They are probably praising Disney for realizing that they were in a pickle and putting them in a cab.
 
I was standing next to a woman at the Boardwalk desk who was VERY frustrated by the three hour pickup time. Her family didn't need that much time and she wanted it changed so that they could get in "more Disney." She was not accepting the explanation that they could not change the pickup time. Finally they did tell her they'd book her on a later bus but there would be no guarantee that DME would get her to the airport in time for her flight and she would have no recourse if she missed it. That's because she was trying to do something other than business as usual.

One's bus not showing up at all, and waiting for over an hour at the resort is NOT business as usual and I take DME quite often. No, I don't want a rental car, they cost too much and I don't really need one. And it shouldn't be accepted as "business as usual" or "just a bad day" or "this is what happens when you take a bus." At least they did send the group on the international flight ahead in the taxi.

The fact that everything worked out fine makes everything else moot.

No, really it doesn't. That's like saying if you're in a restaurant and it takes an hour and a half for you to get any food, that's okay because you did eventually get food.

And DME is at no extra outlaid cost, which is not the same as "free." it's like saying all the food on your cruise is "free." It's not, it's included in the price you have already paid.
 
I am really surprised by the number of reports here of ME buses that just don't show up?:confused3

We, as Disney guests, have RESERVATIONS for an EXACT time. I can understand delays, but how in the world does Mears just ignore SCHEDULED RESERVATIONS? They know exactly the number of guests that need to get to the airport, and the exact time they need to get there - that's all the info they need to assign departure times. How in the world do you schedule guests on a 6:45am bus, and then never dispatch a 6:45am bus? :sad2:
 
DME was 50 minutes late.

Sorry, but I don't see that as a big issue, and OP said they were informed the bus would be late (albeit 15 minutes after the bus was supposed to be there).

What am I missing? Why would this be so stressful? I've travelled every year, sometimes multiple times a year, for the past 6 years. Delays are part of travel and quite common.
 
I reported last week about our troubles with their regular buses. I think the biggest problem is that Disney has a major communication problem. The drivers are not always to blame. They do what they are told. If they bend the rules they can get in major trouble, or lose their jobs. The communication at Disney between the low man and the higher ups, I swear, does not exist. If they complain, it is their job on the line. We saw a lot of suits on our trip this last time, and they kept saying things to keep us happy, but none of what they said actually took place. It is the same with reservations, tickets, and meal plans. You can ask 5 CM's the same question and you will get 5 different answers. That is just crazy. I love Disney, and they do a pretty darn good job, with the amount of people they serve, but it could be so much better. :confused3
 
Our last two December trips we had issues with our ME bus not showing. Luckily, the next bus that came both times still had room for us. However, we were easily an hour and a half off of what should have been our pick up time. My daughter and I both have a genetic condition called Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome. Sprinting through an airport is dangerous for our us. Yes, we made it in time. However, when Disney knows that guests need to be at MCO two hours ahead of time, we expect that Disney will get us there two hours ahead of time so that we don't have to rush. We're going to WDW again in October, and I'm honestly contemplating renting a car this time.
 
No, really it doesn't. That's like saying if you're in a restaurant and it takes an hour and a half for you to get any food, that's okay because you did eventually get food.


No it's not, you're tipping the fairness scales in your favor.

It's more like dinner is at 6.

We recommend you get there at 3 if the lines are long or your waiter is late your still going to eat at 6. They ate at 6. The rest is just complaining for the sake of complaining.

BTW I'd pay to see Mickey light someones luggage on fire :lmao:
 
Just moving this to Transportation board where the folks there know all things DME :thumbsup2
 
OH indeed we do, indeed we do!!! Have at it kids!!!
 
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