Magic Bands info for the new test dates in August

[delmar411]

I am wondering about this as well. We are RD people so all of our FP+ choices (if we are able to make them when we go in Sept) will be afternoon/evening. I don't mind SB lines early on, but towards late morning/early afternoon I would rather not be stuck with SB lines. If it is the case where you can't pull additional ones until AFTER you have used FP+ this may change my game plan...

I have said this about.a.dozen times so ppl do.need.to.actually read the threads.....
these are two.seperate.systems. they do not and will.never speak.to each other. Pull FP- to.your hearts content and make.FP+ as you.see.fit but ppl please stop asking this question.

I am not speaking as someone who has no clue, Im speaking as someone who has used FP+ every single day for more than 3 weeks straight. Every day I pull FPs, I can pull FPs with my expired KTTW cards, I can.pull FP with my current KTTW cards, I can.pull FP with my APs...very simple, you CAN tour as normal but now you just have some prescheduled FPs.

Im sorry if this sounds overly snippy but it is annoying when the facts are available if.you just read the threads.

 

[doconeill]

I am not speaking as someone who has no clue, Im speaking as someone who has used FP+ every single day for more than 3 weeks straight. Every day I pull FPs, I can pull FPs with my expired KTTW cards, I can.pull FP with my current KTTW cards, I can.pull FP with my APs...very simple, you CAN tour as normal but now you just have some prescheduled FPs.

Your _expired_ ones too? So, you can essentially quadruple dip?!?

Fastpass is doomed.

 

[patrickpiteo]

your _expired_ ones too? So, you can essentially quadruple dip?!?

Fastpass is doomed.

lmao

 

[mom2AidanAndEli]

Your _expired_ ones too? So, you can essentially quadruple dip?!?

Fastpass is doomed.

This exactly!!!! So while you're able to get 4 or 5 sets of FPS, I'm left to "maybe, hopefully" get one! I'm not in the test group. I don't have AP. I booked everything through Disney direct. I'll get my one lonely card and hope that there are FPs left for me after everyone else gets their fill.

That's the part that I'm finding really frustrating. Can't even book the BOG FP that everyone else seems to be getting!

And it's mathematically impossible that FP+ testing and double dipping isn't affecting FP availability in SOME way. A, FP+ is taken off the top and there's fewer FP- left for the rest of us. Or, B, FP+ is in addition to FP-, thus making the FP lines even longer when we return. Either way, it doesn't seem good.

 

[beebeeryan]

I still don't know if I'm part of the test or not. We are staying at the Contemporary from 8/25-8/30. I customized my bands and they arrived on July 29(on my birthday! great gift from Mickey!) I've made all our FP+ picks based on our park plans. I've been able to make picks for all 6 days. I also made a BOG lunch reservation.

Today is my 17 day mark. No email. No letter(mail already came today and the UPS truck also already went through my neighborhood this morning). I've already called 2x in July to see if we were part of the test since we were staying at CR and checking in during the testing period. First time I was told no and I would have gotten an email if I was part of the test. Second time a couple weeks later I was told if I was able order bands and pick Fp+ then I was part of the test.

So I guess we just wait and see what happens on Aug 25? if we're not part of the test, my kids are excited anyway about Mickey bands(that's what they call them...or as my 2 year says Gickey dan) and ask to look at them everyday.

I don't think I got my email till evening time on Day 17 just 2 days ago and it went into the promotions tab on my gmail, almost missed it. I had already received the bands and booked all my FP+ weeks ago. I think if you have the bands though, you're good.

 

[doconeill]

This exactly!!!! So while you're able to get 4 or 5 sets of FPS, I'm left to "maybe, hopefully" get one! I'm not in the test group. I don't have AP. I booked everything through Disney direct. I'll get my one lonely card and hope that there are FPs left for me after everyone else gets their fill.

That's the part that I'm finding really frustrating. Can't even book the BOG FP that everyone else seems to be getting!

And it's mathematically impossible that FP+ testing and double dipping isn't affecting FP availability in SOME way. A, FP+ is taken off the top and there's fewer FP- left for the rest of us. Or, B, FP+ is in addition to FP-, thus making the FP lines even longer when we return. Either way, it doesn't seem good.

My response was somewhat tongue in cheek, and that it further shows that they plan to pull the plug on FP when they can since they aren't dealing with the changes to fix it.

The "BOG FP" is a test that is underway, and appears to have little to do with the FP+ testing directly.

And I can guarantee that delmar411 is an outlier - up until now he may have been the only one that knew all this.

 

[delmar411]

My response was somewhat tongue in cheek, and that it further shows that they plan to pull the plug on FP when they can since they aren't dealing with the changes to fix it.

The "BOG FP" is a test that is underway, and appears to have little to do with the FP+ testing directly.

And I can guarantee that delmar411 is an outlier - up until now he may have been the only one that knew all this.

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I dont even use the FP we pull. I give them away.(yeah yeah secondary distribution) It's not really fair play to keep or use them when we go to the parks everyday.

And this is common knowledge on most every other Disney fan/planning site. It is the just the DIS that has been in the dark.

 

[Disneylover99]

This exactly!!!! So while you're able to get 4 or 5 sets of FPS, I'm left to "maybe, hopefully" get one! I'm not in the test group. I don't have AP. I booked everything through Disney direct. I'll get my one lonely card and hope that there are FPs left for me after everyone else gets their fill.

That's the part that I'm finding really frustrating. Can't even book the BOG FP that everyone else seems to be getting!

And it's mathematically impossible that FP+ testing and double dipping isn't affecting FP availability in SOME way. A, FP+ is taken off the top and there's fewer FP- left for the rest of us. Or, B, FP+ is in addition to FP-, thus making the FP lines even longer when we return. Either way, it doesn't seem good.

I think you are blowing this way out of proportion. Here are some reasons why.

1. Just because people can double, triple or quadruple dip doesn't mean they will.

2. Most of the testers don't even know about double dipping.

3. Many testers claim they will be sleeping in and using their fast pass+ later or at different parks, so plenty of fast passes should be available during the day.

4. Not everyone who goes to parks are "ride crazy". Lots of people walk around, meet characters, dine at restaurants, go to shows, shop, etc....

5. It's August. It's hot and sticky. I don't think people are going to be running around all day like mad fools trying to get as many fast passes as they can, just because they can. Many people like to relax, go back to their resort for a swim in the afternoon. Some families (like mine) never even make it back to the parks once they get settled back at their resort.

6. Most people who use the regular fast pass system do their best to utilize it to it's fullest potential. At the MK I might use it 6, 7 or even 8 times in a day. The fast pass+ people who actually know they can use regular fast pass will use their 4 fast pass+ and maybe 4 extra fastpasses, if they have time. It really works out the same. Everyone has the same opportunity, they've just pre booked the fastpasses.

7. Many people are using their fastpass+ to book parade or firework spots instead of fastpass rides.

So is it better to be a tester? I think it is because you can choose attractions ahead of time and you have an opportunity to choose viewing spots for nighttime shows.

But I don't think it's going to be a doom and gloom situation for the non testers. I really don't think regular fastpass is going to be impacted at all.

 

[Christinaxo]

I have said this about.a.dozen times so ppl do.need.to.actually read the threads.....
these are two.seperate.systems. they do not and will.never speak.to each other. Pull FP- to.your hearts content and make.FP+ as you.see.fit but ppl please stop asking this question.

I am not speaking as someone who has no clue, Im speaking as someone who has used FP+ every single day for more than 3 weeks straight. Every day I pull FPs, I can pull FPs with my expired KTTW cards, I can.pull FP with my current KTTW cards, I can.pull FP with my APs...very simple, you CAN tour as normal but now you just have some prescheduled FPs.

Im sorry if this sounds overly snippy but it is annoying when the facts are available if.you just read the threads.

Hi! I have a question. You seem so well informed! lol I am here now and testing MB. Yesterday I tried using my KTTW card to pull regular FP at MK after I used my FP+ and it would not allow me to, since the park admission was used with my MB. The FP kept coming out saying not a valid FP. Is this the norm? Today at HS a CM told me I could only use one or the other for admission so I would not be able to "double up" on FP. I am wondering how everyone else seems to get around this. Today TSM was bananas and I was wishing I could've just pulled a FP rather than waiting hours for the only time slot of FP+ that was open. Kind of annoying!

 

[wilkeliza]

Hi! I have a question. You seem so well informed! lol I am here now and testing MB. Yesterday I tried using my KTTW card to pull regular FP at MK after I used my FP+ and it would not allow me to, since the park admission was used with my MB. The FP kept coming out saying not a valid FP. Is this the norm? Today at HS a CM told me I could only use one or the other for admission so I would not be able to "double up" on FP. I am wondering how everyone else seems to get around this. Today TSM was bananas and I was wishing I could've just pulled a FP rather than waiting hours for the only time slot of FP+ that was open. Kind of annoying!

Looks like Disney wants to get a real view of the testing and has fixed the machines to only allow cards that were used for entry. Basically saying the KTWC is there just in case there are main entrance issues or dinning issues but are no longer a back up for Fastpasses.

Edit to say maybe room only KTTWC are different my codes at the moment then package ones.

 

[delmar411]

Hi! I have a question. You seem so well informed! lol I am here now and testing MB. Yesterday I tried using my KTTW card to pull regular FP at MK after I used my FP+ and it would not allow me to, since the park admission was used with my MB. The FP kept coming out saying not a valid FP. Is this the norm? Today at HS a CM told me I could only use one or the other for admission so I would not be able to "double up" on FP. I am wondering how everyone else seems to get around this. Today TSM was bananas and I was wishing I could've just pulled a FP rather than waiting hours for the only time slot of FP+ that was open. Kind of annoying!

I dont know.what the difference is TBH. I used MB to enter EP today and was able.to.use KTTW to get FPs. I was able.to use the expired.KTTW cards as.well.
Both sets.of.cards.are room only though so maybe.it does make a.difference?

Maybe you should enter with the room key instead of.the bands and see if that changes things?

 

[gometros]

These BOG ones are not FP+ and they aren't linked to your MB. They are a totally separate system. Don't even worry about it.

So glad I followed this discussion. I didn't know about the BOG test and after reading about it here, was able to svelte or FP for our trip in September.

The one thing I didn't understand was the difference between the two choices that were offered.

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[randi817]

Checking in to the Contemporary 8/24. Have my MBs and made my FP+ reservations and was able to make a BOG lunch ressie too. No email, though. Called today and a CM confirmed that I'm part of the test. She said that because it just opened out to the end of August/beginning of September that the emails might be delayed but that I and my family were part of it. I'm assuming that's true for the rest of you checking in around the same time! She also told me (and it's one CM -so FWIW...) that we can indeed use FP+ and FP during the trip even with a package. Hopefully it works!

 

[WisconsinDad]

She also told me (and it's one CM -so FWIW...) that we can indeed use FP+ and FP during the trip even with a package. Hopefully it works!

I'm wondering if she meant you can use FP on days you don't use FP+.

People have reported that you can do both right now but I've read somewhere the FP machines are not supposed to work if you didn't use your KTTW card to enter the park. My question with that though is do the Magic Bands work for FP+ if you use your KTTW card to enter the park?

 

[CarrieR]

And I can guarantee that delmar411 is an outlier - up until now he may have been the only one that knew all this.

It's been posted on the boards here and there; I knew it just from reading various FP+ threads.

I have KTTW cards from January, February, and April, plus I'll get two sets in August (split stay.) And APs. But honestly, although I *could* get six sets of FPs, that just ethically seems icky to me, and really taking unfair advantage of a loophole. (Not that it's not tempting - whole trip, never waiting, evaaaaaaarrrrrrrr!) So even people who are "able" to take advantage may not do so, because it's just... wrong.

 

[mom2AidanAndEli]

It's been posted on the boards here and there; I knew it just from reading various FP+ threads.

I have KTTW cards from January, February, and April, plus I'll get two sets in August (split stay.) And APs. But honestly, although I *could* get six sets of FPs, that just ethically seems icky to me, and really taking unfair advantage of a loophole. (Not that it's not tempting - whole trip, never waiting, evaaaaaaarrrrrrrr!) So even people who are "able" to take advantage may not do so, because it's just... wrong.

But my guess is there are plenty of people who will do it, even if it's wrong.

 

[Disneylover99]

But my guess is there are plenty of people who will do it, even if it's wrong.

Do you think it's wrong to double dip? Would you do it if you could?

 

[Kona65]

Guess what, we found out that we have other choices besides Disney for vacations. With all of the changes being made at Disney, we discovered a whole new world.

 

[WisconsinDad]

Do you think it's wrong to double dip? Would you do it if you could?

I think it's wrong with old KTTW cards but I don't see any issues with double dipping FP+ and FP- with active KTTW cards. I haven't seen it stated anywhere besides these boards that it isn't allowed for the upcoming Aug test. In all the correspondence I've received from Disney for the upcoming test, nowhere does it say I can't use both. Are folks being told otherwise at check-in. I guess we'll find out in a week.

 

[mom2AidanAndEli]

Do you think it's wrong to double dip? Would you do it if you could?

I was responding to the person above who was commenting that they could have six sets of FPs but won't because it's wrong. And I do think that's wrong! FP+ and FP- together, no. I'm sad that it will have an effect on those of us who don't have the option, but since they're testing the system--good and bad--I don't see that as an issue.

People who are using old cards? Yes, that's wrong. People who are using an unlinked current ticket to get two sets (not counting FP+)? Yes, that seems wrong to me too and I wouldn't do it. But everyone has their own thresholds.