1. SSR is newer - and offers 10 more years of use - than VWL, BC, BWV. Yet not only is there less booking demand for SSR...
And yet again I'd like to point out that you have done nothing to prove how demand compares with any other resort.
Bottom line: If 208 people want to book BCV and 208 people want to book SSR, BCV is 100% full and SSR is 25% full. Your personal observations based upon one experience booking SSR tell us absolutely nothing about demand for ANY DVC resort.
...it also commands a lower resale price tag.
And again you are completely discounting two factors:
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Supply and demand.
2. The economy.
There are more SSR points than any other resorts which means there will ALWAYS be a greater supply of resales. Admittedly this will hurt SSR resale values in the long run. Not much that can be done about that.
And the lowball sellers are undeniably hurting the resale market as well. Whether that continues in times of economic prosperity remains to be seen. After all, we're only 2 months removed from DVC charging $94 per point.
Minimally, the extra 10 years use would suggest that people should be willing to pay 25% more than these other resorts - not less.
I think every economist in the room just had to gasp for air.
Time value of money tells us that you cannot weigh all years of ownership equally. At most those latter years would be worth $3-4 per point...not a 25% premium.
Notice how DVC is able to sell your beloved AKV for $96 each (with 15 years of additional ownership) while still charging $104 for BCV and BWV add-ons.
2. Sorry, if you're going to build a resort of that size then DVC did owe it to all the members to make it nice enough that that SSR owners would like to stay at their home resort as much as they do the other properties. Otherwise you generate lopsided competition for the other resorts, versus a fairly balanced demand, which would be better for all of us. That lopsided demand also will lead to lower pricing for SSR, which I believe we're already seeing.
Again, you've really done nothing to demonstrate how SSR owners are using their points.
I also think you're deluding yourself if you think that only SSR owners are filling your beloved BWV, BCV and VWL. There are just as many people who own at OKW, Vero, HHI and even AKV who will be booking and/or waitlisting those resorts at 7 months.
At best we're in a two-tier system where BCV, BWV and perhaps VWL (mostly due to its extremely small size) are at the top of owners' lists, while the others are second choices.
3. SSR was rushed through the planning and design phase, using the existing Disney Institute infrastructure, in order order to get more inventory on the market as soon as possible. In the process, they devalued one of the most valuable pieces of land in WDW.
Please share with us the development timeline for SSR. I'm very curious to hear how you came to the conclusion that it was rushed.
That's my main gripe: This chunk of land held the potential to be something truly great. Instead it's a garden variety golf condominium complex complete with busy roads and unsightly parking lots dissecting the entire resort. People shouldn't have to breathe bus fumes and cross busy roads just to have breakfast in the morning or to use the signature pool.
Oh, you mean kinda like Old Key West...the FIRST Disney Vacation Club resort.
Look, we get that you don't like it. But what I don't understand is why you continue to project that dislike upon tens-of-thousands of others.
If I wanted, I could waste my time griping about why BCV was built alongside a main road. Gee, talk about your bus fumes and busy roads. Maybe 3% of the rooms at SSR are on the end of a building and happen to face a road....compared to about 20% of BCV which sits alongside Epcot Resorts Blvd.
Or I could gripe about how DVC members got the FIFTH FLOOR (yuck!) at AKV's Jambo house instead of the more appealing 2nd or 3rd floor.
Or I could gripe about how OKW has a Hospitality House that is even more off-center than SSR's Carriage House...or the lack of elevators.
Or how BWV owners are are forced to share bus service with the Dolphin and Swan. And what's with the single elevator in that building? Talk about your design FUBARs.
4. Disney sold this monstrosity on the strength of its other properties: Pointing to the Beach Club, or the Wilderness Lodge or the Boardwalk.
Not to me they didn't. I like it just fine, thank you very much.
And if that were even remotely true, then I propose that after 5 years of sales and 50,000 owners, there would be a whole lot more than 120 contracts on the resale market.
5. Now that other DVC properties, with true resort amenities, are available what we are seeing is more and more SSR rooms going up for sale, and people dropping the price in the process.
Again, you're just guessing and conveniently ignoring all other factors which do not fit your assumptions.
6. If you bought there I'm not suggesting you're a moron.
Oh, no. Of course not. We don't think that of you either...
7. I didn't WANT to dislike SSR jut because I owned at BW. In fact I LOVE BC, VWL, (and eventually bought there). You can already see how BLT and AKL (where we also bought) are also being designed to Disney-resort standards. Trust me, I REALLY wanted to like SSR just as much. I even stayed there with nothing but high hopes. But this resort just doesn't have it.
So of course you assume that everyone else shares your high standards and sensibilities. Those of us who don't must be the morons.
