liamsaunt/liamandcaili's trip report

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Welcome to Liamsaunt and Liamandcailli’s trip report! First, the cast of characters, and then a little background information:

Auntie Becky: 30-something, clumsy, loves Disney and vacationing in general. Married to…

Uncle John: 30-something, absent minded, loves Disney but loves U2 more.

Mom -- 30-something; married; been doing mostly single-parenting since hubby joined the Army three years ago; likes things she can't afford; loves Disney and really needed a vacation.

ML -- Master Liam; age 6; active, intelligent boy; loves the Red Sox and Patriots; has enough energy to power a small country...Mom's been trying to figure out how to bottle it and make millions for years; sometimes morphs into an alter-ego, MT -- Major Terror.

DMC -- Divine Miss Caili; age 4; always wears pink; loves Princesses and Mickey Mouse; claimed that the first rides she wanted to go on were Splash Mountain and Thunder Mountain; the poem "There was a little girl who had a little curl, right in the middle of her forehead, and when she was good she was very, very good, but when she was bad she was awful" describes her perfectly.

Our trip was from November 30-December 6. We stayed at Shades of Green since my BIL is active military (unable to join us for the trip as he is currently deployed). Since my Dsis and I both post here, we thought we would do a “tag team” trip report, therefore offering two perspectives on the trip and also saving on the typing to boot! My DH and I were really looking forward to this trip, our first time vacationing with the kids. We knew it would be a different experience for us—how different, we had no idea! My Dsis and I had not been to Disney together since 1989 either. A lot has changed since then!

Day one should be following from Dsis shortly…
 
Cast of Characters: (just to remind you)

AB--30 something, clumsy, loves Disney and vacations in general
married to...
UJ--30 something, absent minded, loves Disney but loves U2 more
Mom -- Sis to AB, 30-something; married; been doing mostly
single-parenting since hubby joined the Army three
years ago; likes things she can't afford; loves Disney
and really needed a vacation.
ML -- Master Liam; age 6; active, intelligent boy;
loves the Red Sox and Patriots; has enough energy to
power a small country...Mom's been trying to figure
out how to bottle it and make millions for years;
sometimes morphs into an alter-ego, MT -- Major
Terror.
DMC -- Divine Miss Caili; age 4; always wears pink;
loves Princesses and Mickey Mouse; claimed that the
first rides she wanted to go on were Splash Mountain
and Thunder Mountain; the poem "There was a little
girl who had a little curl, right in the middle of her
forehead, and when she was good she was very, very
good, but when she was bad she was awful" describes
her perfectly.

Day One -- Arrival 11/30

Have you ever noticed that the earlier your flight,
the earlier the limo service arrives to pick you up?
We were supposed to be picked up at 6:50. The
doorbell rang at 6:30. Mom raced upstairs to wake DMC
who was not even out of bed yet. "Come on, honey,
it's time to go to Disney World!" DMC jumped out of
bed, ran downstairs and was ready to be out the door
in under ten minutes. Good thing Mom put the kids to
bed in their clothes. Meanwhile, ML had been up since
5 AM...Mom foresaw whining in the future, and it
didn't take long. No sooner did we arrive at the
airport then the food complaining began. "AB, I'm
STARVING!" said ML, showing the first glimpses of MT
to emerge later. Well, we had to get through security
first, where they looked skeptically through all our
tickets and licenses and then made AB take an air bath
to make sure she wasn't bringing a bomb on the plane.
The vacation hadn't even started...she wasn't ready to
kill us yet! That would come later.

Once we were deemed safe to fly, we got the first of
what would be a long string of bagels. If I never
have another bagel again, I think I would be okay with
that. We had an uneventful flight on Song...AB, UJ
and I took turns winning at trivia. Nothing like a
little friendly competition to get the vacation
started. Though smooth, the flight seemed endless...I
don't know if I was just missing the in-flight
pretzels that can occupy up to 20 minutes if I drag
them out, or the fact that DMC kept the shade on her
window seat drawn the entire flight leaving me with
nothing to look at but the screen in front of me. And
the screen was playing the Cartoon Network...silently.
Why? Because DMC had the one seat on the plane where
the sound didn't work properly, so she had to use my
headsets to hear what was going on in the show she was
watching.

Upon arrival, we somehow managed to maneuver four
suitcases, two carseats, five carry-on bags, a
stroller with DMC, and ML from baggage claim to the
car rental garage. We picked up our vehicle from
Budget's Fastbreak window. If you don't have this,
get it. We were in and out of the car rental garage
in less than 15 minutes...complete with a free upgrade
to the largest SUV ever (hereafter known as Behemoth).
We didn't have to worry about wandering around
parking lots. The thing was so big it towered over
everything but tanks and trucks. I guess we don't
travel light though...we just fit.

We checked into Shades of Green early, but thankfully,
one room was ready. They couldn't tell us if the
second room was adjoining, so we had to hope for the
best for a couple hours or else I was going to be
drinking beer in the bathroom. It's happened. Then
we walked to the room...and walked...and walked...and
walked. Oh dear, I was tired just thinking of those
late nights after the fireworks and dragging ML down
those halls. We finally got to our destination, and
surprise! The room was actually really nice. It was
big, it had a little deck (which was never used but it
was nice to have just in case), and most of all, it
was quiet. The bathroom was a decent size with a
large, separate, two-sink vanity outside. Most
importantly, it was spotless. I hate it when I find
old hair in hotel bathrooms. The only problem? As
soon as we walked in, DMC claimed one queen bed, ML
claimed the other. What did that leave me, the
biggest person in the room? The fold out couch with
its twin-sized mattress. Okay, it wasn't completely
uncomfortable, but it did transport me back to my
college dorm days. The room also had a round table
with four chairs, a bureau and an armoir for the TV
that had additional drawers. I have to admit I
breathed a sigh of relief. I just know AB and UJ were
really worried about a hotel room on Disney property
that only cost $97/night.

I showered...ah, the glorious feeling of rinsing off
airport grime...and then we headed out in the Behemoth
to Pleasure Island for our 3 PM ADR at Raglan Road.
We were a little early, so we took the children to see
the Lego sculptures. They were impressed, although I
know ML was just dying to try to take some of them
apart or knock them down. That is what he does at
home...creations are built and then completely
destroyed. He didn't get the chance though, because
we kept him moving and before long, it was time to go
back to the restaurant. Oddly enough, the cast member
left the gate to Pleasure Island shortly before three,
and fellow travelers unhooked the chain...at precisely
three...and went into the park. We looked around, a
little confused, but then followed. We didn't get
arrested.

Raglan Road is anything but what I expected. It is
large. It is leather. It was empty. I guess I was
expecting a small, crowded, everyone knows everyone
type of place with Irish servers, good pub food and
lots of traditional music (with perhaps some U2 or
Sinead O'Connor thrown in). That's how the Irish bars
in Boston feel...I guess I was expecting the same. So
I was kind of thrown off by the big, empty space, the
fact that our server was certainly not from Ireland,
and the quiet. Of course, we were there at
opening...and we immediately felt silly for even
having bothered making a reservation. Our table was
nice. If there had been a live show happening, it
would have been a good viewing spot. And if the
children misbehaved, we were at least 100 feet from
any other people in the restaurant. DMC and ML were
enthusiastic because they could have the fish and
chips, which they both enjoy. AB was less than
enthusiastic though when she asked for a wine list and
the server just mentioned the types of wine they had
available, rather than the specific brands. I decided
to get a beer instead and asked what was available on
tap. The server rolled her eyes and said, "What
isn't?" So she asked me what type of beer I
preferred, then mentioned a couple lagers...Harp,
Smithwicks, Bass and Boddington's. I chose Bass.
Normally, in an Irish bar, the selection of an English
beer would elicit groans or mild chiding, but not
here. UJ also opted for beer and finally got a
complete list...one that I would hardly label as
unmanageable. I may not remember everything available
but those I do are Guinness, Harp, Smithwicks,
Boddington's, Bass, Murphy's Red...and perhaps a
couple others. Obviously, our server has never been
to Sunset Grill in Allston (boasts the largest beer
selection in Boston with 100s of beers) or Cornwall's
in Kenmore Square, who used to have a frequent beer
buyer club card labeled "80 Beers Around the World."
I haven't been there since my single and childless
days, so I can't say if they have it anymore. And no,
AB and I never completed our cards.

The menu sounded tempting, but after a day of travel
and as a beer supplement, I ordered the fada
burger...a sirloin burger topped with cheese and a
tomato relish. I asked for it to be cooked medium.
UJ also ordered the burger...medium rare...AB had the
fish and chips and so did the children. The burger
was cooked perfectly. However, the roll it was served
on was dense and chewy...so much so that I could
hardly taste anything but the bread. It was hard to
bite, making it impossible to get all the flavors of
the topping together at once. I can not tell you how
the tomato relish was because I could not taste it. I
did like the cheese. The roll also had a decorative
roasted onion on it that was rather annoying because
it kept sticking to my hand but it was impossible to
remove from the bun. It seemed to me that the
restaurant was more concerned with appearances...the
presentation of all the food was pleasing...than with
how it tasted. Even the children's fish and chips
were presented in odd-shaped bowls that each quickly
discarded in favor of the regular plates underneath.
AB's fish and chips were arranged in a triangle
sculpture that was quickly dumped out on to a plate
for ease of access.

I love Irish pubs and I really wanted to love Raglan
Road. I didn't though. If I was going to choose a
pub to go to on Disney property, I would definitely
choose Rose and Crown over Raglan Road. To me, Raglan
Road is a C+...okay food, okay atmosphere, good
service. Aside from the wine and beer list, our
server was very attentive and made sure the children
received their food very quickly. But that was
another odd thing...the restaurant didn't offer the
children crayons or coloring pages to keep them
occupied while waiting to eat.

After dinner, it was off to Magic Kingdom for a few
rides then Spectromagic and Wishes. Our first ride?
It's a Small World, of course...the first of five,
yes, five, happiest rides on earth. On our last ride
of the five, a little girl behind us asked her father
if the ride was scary. He replied, "Only for Daddy."
The first time, it was cute. The second time, okay.
After that, it was more like "Is this ever going to
end??" But DMC was happy.

One thing I never tire of in the Magic Kingdom is
Mickey's Philharmagic. That was next. It's
wonderful. And the last time we saw it, we discovered
that it isn't true that all seats are equally great.
Sitting in the middle in the middle of the theater is
definitely the best experience. But please, do as
Goofy asks and move all the way down to the end of
your row. Our last trip, we had a group in our row
who refused to move and wanted us to step over them to
move down...ML was so confused as to why they weren't
following the rules, and kept talking about it so much
that I heard one of the women say something mean about
him. They were the ones being rude, not him, but
apparently some people think they're entitled to do
whatever they want and that rules don't apply to them.
It's still good no matter where you sit. But if you
happen to luck out and find yourself in the middle in
the middle, enjoy!

Spectromagic was great as always. Before the parade,
AB noticed the large cart of glow toys making its way
toward us. She leaned over and whispered, "I'm
doomed." Sure enough, the cart stopped right in front
of us so another child could get a glow necklace.
Within seconds, ML had a glowing lightsaber type thing
and DMC had a spinning, glowing Cinderella thanks to
AB. It should be noted that neither of these toys
ever made an appearance again after the parade. My
favorite sequence in the parade is the Sleeping Beauty
one with the fairies, the dancing butterflies and the
spectacular peacock. DMC squeezed her eyes shut
during the Bald Mountain part, but enjoyed waving to
Mickey and Dopey. She indicated her pleasure at the
parade by lighting up her spinning Cinderella. ML
also enjoyed the parade, but not as enthusiastically.
Afterall, he had to sit still for a while.

The night ended with Wishes. We chose a poor location
as there were several trees in the way...I can never
figure out what direction the fireworks are going to
come from. Our last trip, we were on the left side of
the castle and there were trees in the way. This time
we were on the right and there were trees in the way.
It was a great place to see the white glowing wishes
fireworks and Tinkerbell's flight though.

Afterwards, it was time for our long trek back to the
hotel. I know a lot of people complain about getting
hit in the back of the ankles by strollers in the
parks and AB did have a maniac stroller pusher behind
her as we made our way down Main Street. However, I
can not tell you how many times someone cut right in
front of the stroller I was pushing trying to get to
the exit faster. Also, many people seemed to think
that because there wasn't a person in the stroller
space, then it was empty and walked right into the
stroller. Relax, people!

We did manage to find our way back to Shades of Green
after riding the monorail to the Polynesian, but it
wasn't easy. The path isn't exactly marked, and since
we had only traveled that way once previously, we made
several wrong turns. I would estimate the walk to be
about 15 minutes with the stroller from the monorail
to the front door at Shades of Green. Along the walk
we were amused by signs reading "Florida is a natural
habitat. Please do not feed or go near the
alligators." Okay, you don't have to tell us twice. ML dubbed the pond "Alligator Creek."

Back at the hotel, I packed the children off to bed
then headed into the next (thankfully adjoining! No
beer in the bathroom this time...woo-hoo!) room for
our first covening of the Round Table. Each evening
the adults, AB, UJ and Mom, enjoyed fine beverages and
conversations around the table. There wasn't much to
complain about the first night, so we enjoyed some
wine, and then some beer and prepared ourselves for
the day ahead. It would be a challenging one indeed.
 
I am posting this before the reading by AB, so she may have some opinions to add...

But here's my take on 12/1...Day Two

Day Two -- The torture of DMC and MVMCP

It was our first full day at Disney and we were
excited. We planned to get to Epcot for opening, grab
FastPasses for Soarin and get in as much of the park
as we could before our ADR at Coral Reef at 2:50. Of
course, you know what happens to the best laid plans.

AB and I were up early, showered and ready to go even
before the children were awake. To give UJ a little
more time in the morning, and to divert the children
from wrecking the hotel room, ML took a shower then I
gave DMC a bath. Epcot wasn't opening until 9, so we
needed to kill a little time. Then AB, the children
and I went out foraging for food. From the posters in
the elevator, we knew there was a cafe somewhere in
Shades of Green that promised bagels (again), bananas
and other assorted breakfast foods. We found a coffee
stand that had, well, coffee. An Italian
restaurant...closed...and a sit-down restaurant. No
take-out cafe. We went back to the room, looked at
the hotel map and located the cafe. We returned to
the area we were just in...still no cafe. By this
time, ML was on the verge of transforming to MT and
even DMC was whining about being hungry. (Did I
mention that at home ML is usually up before 7 and
gets his own breakfast? Two pieces of frozen raisin
bread. Feel free to gag.) They had each been up for
well over an hour, we're definitely not making Epcot
opening and still there was no breakfast in sight.

We decided to just drive to Epcot in Behemoth and get
breakfast at the Fountain Cafe. AB ran ahead to get
FastPasses to Soarin, and UJ, Mom and children went
for the food. By that point, the children were so
hungry I think I could have offered them oatmeal and
they would have been grateful, but they both settled
on bagels, even though DMC isn't a big fan. I had my
one bagel-free morning with the choice of croissant
and a rather terrible tea. AB was right. You should
never order tea take-out. It is always too cold, too
weak, too sugary, too milky...something. I was hoping
for the caffeine boost, but I ended up throwing most
of the tea away.

As soon as we could get another FastPass, we headed to
Test Track. DMC was measured and made the height
requirement. Since she was so insistent on riding
Splash Mountain and Thunder Mountain, AB and I had
agonized for weeks over what would happen if she
didn't meet the 40 inch mark. I even bought her new,
unnecessary sneakers that had a thicker sole than her
other pair. We had visions of her completely flipping
out if she didn't measure up...and believe me, she can
throw a mean tantrum. Her shrieks probably cause dogs
pain for miles around. It was a relief when her head
easily met the 40 inch mark, the cast member beamed,
told her she was such a big girl and clapped.

Then we rode Soarin. We lucked out and got in the
first row. It was my first time riding, so I was
excited because I had heard so many wonderful things
about it. Then the lights went out, and we rose. DMC
was next to me, gripped my left pinky finger so
tightly I thought it would fall off and said,
"Whoa..." The ride was beautiful and exhilirating to
me...even though I am a confessed ride wimp...but DMC
struggled to maintain composure. The part where we
swooped toward the snow-covered mountain elicited an
even louder "Whoa" and more fierce finger-gripping.
When we disembarked, she announced loudly, "I did NOT
like that ride!" Okay, so she doesn't like heights.
Splash Mountain was definitely out.

I figured she'd like Test Track. It has none of the
sensations of Soarin...it's just fast. So we head
there next. When you're wrong, you're really wrong.
She hated Test Track. She hated it so much that she
was crying when we got off the ride...we got several
"Bad Parent" looks on our way out. She hated it so
much that the first time I got our car on the highway
after the vacation, she was in the backseat nervously
saying "Whoa...whoa...whoa..." She hated it so much
that this past weekend when she saw AB again for the
first time since the vacation, she wouldn't speak to
her for most of the day. She said she was still mad
at her for Soarin and Test Track. And she hated it so
much that every day after we heard how "I DIDN'T like
Test Track or Soarin!" and she was afraid to go on
anything, including the trams from the parking lot,
the Shady Shuttle at Shades of Green and the safari
jeep at Animal Kingdom...even Peter Pan at Magic
Kingdom! Of course, being the Bad Parent that I am, I
made her go on these anyway.

After all these poor decisions, the lot of us agreed
that DMC could choose the next ride. She picked
Imagination. I can't express in words the amount of
loathing I have for this particular ride. I don't
think it would matter if Disney made this the best
ride in all of Epcot...after standing in line for it
for 90 minutes in the rain in 1989 with AB and then
experiencing the immense disappointment of it all, I
just can never forgive it. It's kind of like how I
will never forgive the Dallas Cowboys for declaring
themselves America's Team in the 70s. We did go,
however, and we didn't complain TOO loudly. Afterall,
we had just put DMC through what amounted to torture
for her.

Oh yeah, and Thunder Mountain was definitely out too.

So we rode Imagination and then we went on Spaceship
Earth, then we made our way over to Mexico and rode
the gentle, and not at all scary, ride there. Then we
sat down and realized we were all starving. It was
1:25, and our ADR was not until 2:50. Believe me, a
hungry AB is not a happy one. And once again, ML was
threatening to transform.

So AB called Disney Dining, and we were able to move
our reservation to 1:45. That gave us 15 minutes to
get from Norway to Coral Reef with the children. We
made it.

Coral Reef is a stunning restaurant. We walked in and
were completely amazed by the large fish tank and the
variety of fish within it. We sat in the upper tier
of tables, so we were not right next to the tank, but
the view was still phenomenal. In this restaurant, we
encountered the server that every Disney restaurant
server should strive to be. Unfortunately, I can not
remember his name, except that I believe his name
began with H and he had an accent. He was
exceptional.

ML had been complaining about food for a while, but in
the Coral Reef his complaints really rose to new
heights. He had been wanting grilled cheese, but that
wasn't available on the menu, so he begrudgingly
settled for macaroni and cheese. The dish
comes...promptly...and it isn't what he wants. He
doesn't like Velveeta macaroni and cheese. So he
refused to eat. Then he dropped a decorative dolphin
that came with his milk down the crack in the seat.
He lost his temper and started crying. Our server,
who was about to check on us, recognized the situation
and steered clear, instead inquiring at a table
nearby. Once I managed to calm ML...then morphed into
MT...our server reappeared and asked what he could do
to help ML. He took an order for a new entree and
promised to return with a great number of decorative
dolphins. This he did in very short time, with an
equal number for DMC, so once again ML was happy, and
so were we. Plus, the server did not charge us for
the rejected macaroni...I know he received a very big
tip from AB and UJ. Somewhere in the neighborhood of
50%.

My entree at Coral Reef was disappointing. I ordered
the Catch of the Day, which happened to be trout. It
was served with what seemed to be a chicken-based
gravy and mashed potatoes. To me, it seemed a bit
like having a boneless breast of chicken in a boring
gravy and lackluster potatoes. The good thing was, it
did come with a starter salad...thus preserving us all
from two entire days without vegetables...we shared.
AB and UJ both ordered the Mahi Mahi, and it was
excellent. AB and I should have split the entree --
we had made a commitment to try to do that whenever
possible before we left, but we kept forgetting!-- and
I definitely regretted it. That said, I would
definitely go back. This restaurant to me gets a
B+...good/sometimes okay food, great atmosphere and
terrific service.

After Coral Reef, it was time to head to Magic Kingdom
for MVMCP. When we got there, we were a bit confused.
In the past, people for the party have been held in
Tomorrowland, this time it was in Liberty
Square/Frontierland. We spent a large part of the
before-party wandering around trying to avoid the
crowds pouring out and the lines for the Christmas
picture. There was zero-chance of that turning out
well, so I was very happy to skip waiting in line for
30 minutes.

Once the park opened again at seven, we were able to
ride almost everything...Peter Pan, Buzz Lightyear,
Pooh, Small World (again!), AB and UJ rode Space
Mountain while Mom and the children went on Snow White
and the carousel. It was great being able to just
walk on everything.

Of course, our enthusiasm for the rides meant there
was no way we were getting a spot on Main Street for
the Christmas parade. No problem. We headed into
Liberty Square and found loads of spaces heading
toward Frontierland. By that time, UJ, Mom and AB,
though she wouldn't admit it, were starving. Out of
desperation, UJ and Mom got burgers from Pecos Bill
Cafe. We couldn't find anything for AB on short
notice, but no worries, she ate our fries. My burger
was just as awful as I expected it to be...complete
with Miracle Whip as a topping...but at that point, I
really didn't care. I ate it and liked it.

DMC had been completely passed out for an hour at this
point...too much torture for one day?... and showed no
signs of waking. The parade was minutes away and her
snoring was louder than some of the announcements. To
the surprise of some of the parents near us, I offered
to move her stroller so other children, who were
actually awake, could better see the parade. The
parents thanked us profusely and often, which though
nice, was completely unnecessary. I would hope anyone
in a similar situation would do the same.

ML loved the Christmas parade. I think he was also
baffled by his sister's sleeping, as all the
characters she loved were featured so prominently.
Finally, Santa arrived at the end, and pointed in our
direction and said, "I like your hat!" At first, I
wasn't sure who he was pointing at, but then as I
followed his point, I realized he was commenting on
UJ's Patriot's hat. Yes, Santa is a Patriots fan.

After the parade, DMC was still completely passed out,
ML was sleeping and AB, UJ and Mom were pretty
exhausted. We decided we would leave. We made our
way to the gates, exited the park and then were
greeted by the announcement that all monorails and
ferries would be docked until after the fireworks.
Okay...so we headed back into Magic Kingdom. And we
were so glad we did. ML woke up on our way out of the
park, so he witnessed the show. DMC remained
sleeping. But AB, UJ and Mom had tears in their eyes
by the end of Holiday Wishes. It was truly wonderful,
and magical, and well, Christmasy. If we had missed
it, it would have been one of the worst decisions of
our vacation. For me, it was the best fireworks we
saw. We also discovered that viewing Wishes from the
end of Main Street is a great spot, and you don't have
to fight the crowds to leave.

Once again we convened at the Round Table after the
children were in bed (though after a couple hours nap
DMC was ready to head back to the parks) and lingered
late. After such a theme park high, it is hard to
settle down. Good thing we brought wine.
 
Day 3, December 2:

Cast of Characters:

Auntie Becky: 30-something, clumsy, loves Disney and vacationing in general. Married to…

Uncle John: 30-something, absent minded, loves Disney but loves U2 more.

Mom -- 30-something; married; been doing mostly single-parenting since hubby joined the Army three years ago; likes things she can't afford; loves Disney and really needed a vacation.

ML -- Master Liam; age 6; active, intelligent boy; loves the Red Sox and Patriots; has enough energy to power a small country...Mom's been trying to figure out how to bottle it and make millions for years; sometimes morphs into an alter-ego, MT -- Major Terror.

DMC -- Divine Miss Caili; age 4; always wears pink; loves Princesses and Mickey Mouse; claimed that the first rides she wanted to go on were Splash Mountain and Thunder Mountain; the poem "There was a little girl who had a little curl, right in the middle of her forehead, and when she was good she was very, very good, but when she was bad she was awful" describes her perfectly.

This day did not get off to the best start, unfortunately. I took ML down to Fresh Express to pick up breakfast again (yes, we finally found it. Yes, we are map-reading impaired), and endured 25 minutes of torture. The line was long and slow moving, and he had morphed into demon child. I know that he was hungry but I was not equipped to handle his behavior, which included crashing into me and the people around us, wiping his nose on his shirt, and then shredding up the napkin I handed him to use instead, whining, being rude to the woman behind the counter, and on and on. Then, to make matters worse, when we got back to the room I discovered that the counterperson had forgotten to put the butter for his bagel in the bag. Complete meltdown with screaming and crying ensued. I had a mini meltdown myself and had to lock myself in my bathroom for a few minutes to calm down. After gaining control I told him we would stop by the café on the way out to get the butter. He decided he did not want butter after all and ate the bagel plain. Lesson of the day: do not bring child to pick up breakfast, they need to stay in the room until they get something to eat.

Other than the rocky start, the day was actually pretty nice. We headed over to Sea World. First up, feeding the stingrays. ML was game but the DMC was having nothing to do with it. I fed a few myself. Dolphin feeding was next on the list. $20 later we had the fish and ML had fun feeding the dolphin. Once again DMC would not participate. The rail was too crowded for me to get up to it, but I had a nice view of ML feeding and UJ got to pet the dolphins too. They take your picture while you are feeding the dolphins but the cost was $19.95 and the photo was not that great. It was only 10:30 AM and I had already spent over $300, so that photo was staying on the shelf!

We were excited to see the new dolphin pavilion and show. Well, to say we were disappointed is an understatement. UJ’s take: Cirque de Sea World. Mom’s: I paid to see the fish, not the people! The kids seemed to enjoy it though, especially the parrots that fly through the crowd, so I guess it was not a total wash. We checked out the penguins and puffins next (so cute!), then Shark Encounter. I am always impressed by this exhibit. DMC was a little nervous about the sharks—err…we have reservations at Sharks Grill, hopefully this won’t be a problem. We then headed over to the sea lion show. We all really enjoyed this one—the story was cute and the sea lions were funny.

DMC whacked her head on the lip of the counter while we were checking in for lunch as Sharks Grill, so we had to wait outside for a while to get her calmed down. Thankfully she was not nervous about the sharks like I thought she would be. We were seated at a semicircular table one tier back from the sharks, so maybe the distance helped. We ordered the kids their meals right away (the old standby—hot dogs and milk) then shared an appetizer of bruschetta. This was OK but not great—I think the topping had mint in it, which I am not a huge fan of. For entrees, we all had the tuna (L. and I split an order, and UJ had his own). The tuna was excellent, seared rare and served with two sauces—one a slightly spicy chili sauce, and the other a cooling tartar type. The kids were well behaved at lunch which was great. After lunch we saw Shamu. DMC was nervous she would get wet (we arrived only about 5 minutes prior to show time and so had to sit in the “soak zone”) but the trainers had pity on us all and we stayed dry. The show was only 15 minutes long. I am not sure if that was because of the cool day, or because of the new baby Shamu that had been born the week prior. In any event, we enjoyed the show, abbreviated as it was. Then it was time to head back to the hotel and get ready for our big night out—the Illuminations Cruise.

We valeted the car at the Beach Club Hotel and headed in to the park to kill some time before needing to be at the marina. I was really glad that I had called to confirm what time we needed to arrive—the people at wdw-play told us 7:30 PM—the people at the marina said between 8:30 and 9! I checked for fastpass availability at Soarin’ but no dice. So, after stopping to buy me a hat and some gloves (it was cold!), we perambulated around the World Showcase, then out of the park and around the Boardwalk to fill up the rest of the time before our cruise.

The cruise got off to a bit of a rocky start. We had ordered some food and wine from Epcot private dining and it did not arrive. Our boat captain told us that they had been having problems like this a lot lately. Apparently, they switched the ordering process around so the captains don’t have advance notice of the food orders. The food showed up eventually and we were off. I felt bad for the captain—I think he thought we were upset with him (we were not). Then, the trouble with DMC started. She was crying because she thought the boat was going too fast (leftover trauma from yesterday, worst aunt in the world and all of that, don't you know). Mom got her wrapped up in blankets and she eventually, thankfully calmed down before we got to the docking spot, but for a while I was nervous that the people in nearby boats were going to have to listen to her cry during illuminations. That would have been horrible!

Our boat was anchored furthest out and to the left, a wonderful viewing spot. We settled in under the blankets provided by the captain and got ready for the show. Well, almost! The captain told Mom to use the cup holder on the table for her wine glass. Err…oops! The wine glasses don’t fit in the cup holders, and now there is half a glass of red wine on the carpet! I hope they have stain remover back at the marina. Now I was really feeling bad for the poor captain! We had only been together for 20 minutes, and he had already had to deal with late food, a screaming kid, and spilled wine! Oh well, on to the show, which was incredible as always. DMC emerged from her blanket tunnel to watch and really enjoyed the show. ML was similarly impressed, and told me he liked it even better than Wishes the night before. The holiday ending with the Walter Cronkite narration is truly spectacular.

After the show ended, our captain took us for a spin around the lake, and then along the Boardwalk. We got to talking with him about Disney, which was nice. He was a friendly man, and had worked for Disney for a number of years.

I would definitely plan to do the Illuminations cruise again (though I would order white wine for us next time, LOL). The view from the boat was unparalleled by any other spot I have seen the show from—I got the best view I have ever had of the globe. It did make for a late evening for the kids though—we had the stroller to push DMC, but UJ ended up having to carry ML back to the car, and he is a heavy load. We did not have to wait long to get Behemoth from the valet, and quickly made our way back to the hotel, past “alligator creek,” and, after a short rehash of the day at the roundtable, into bed for a good night’s sleep.
 

December 3

Today we were headed to Disney Studios. ML was psyched because Star Tours is his Favorite. Ride. Ever! He had been good about waiting to get over to Studios and we planned to reward him properly with a ride or three. After securing breakfast from the express café for everyone (by myself this time!) we piled into Behemoth and got on the road. We arrived not that long after opening and the lot was already pretty crowded, which was disappointing. Studios is a tough park when it is crowded—the paths are narrower and it always seems hotter there for some reason. However, after battling the crowds up the street we found the back areas not crowded at all. I think everyone was over at Rock n Roller Coaster and Tower of Terror. Given the DMC’s reaction to Soarin and Test Track, you know we’ll be riding the Tower over and over, right? Ha.

We picked up (unnecessary) fastpasses for the Little Mermaid and then made a beeline to Star Tours. UJ and I took Liam on (DMC was not riding of course). No wait, we walked right on for our trip to Endor. This ride could use an update, but it is still fun, and ML loves it so it is all good with me. Walking into the store afterwards was the interesting experience I thought it would be—ML wanted the entire store of course. I promised him we’d come back later, ride the ride again and then pick something out, and he was fine with that. So, off to Little Mermaid (and the requisite stop in the princess shop outside so DMC could ogle all of the dresses). Now, I have not been to this show for about 10 years, and after seeing it again, I remember why. The puppetry is cool, but the show just doesn’t do it for me for some reason. DMC liked it (other than Ursula, she closed her eyes for that part), ML was a little bored, and I saw UJ napping out of the corner of my eye. Also, they really should do something about the preshow area. People were packed into this small space, there is no preshow of any kind going on, and it is HOT in there! Humph.

It was getting pretty hot, and the kids were a bit cranky and asking for food again, so we went over to the fruit stand area. This actually turned out to be one of the nicest things we did at the Studios. I bought the kids a bunch of fruit and waters and we all just sat and relaxed under the picnic umbrellas for about 45 minutes, rehashing the trip so far and talking over plans for the rest of the day. The break was nice, and I think it really helped to rejuvenate the kids. They were in great moods for the rest of the day.

After our break, we went to Beauty and the Beast. This show is pretty cute, and DMC really liked it (except for Gaston). We had a while before our Fantasmic package at the Brown Derby, so decided to split up for a bit. UJ would take ML to ride Star Tours again, and Mom and I would take DMC to the Honey I Shrunk the Kids play area. The plan was for UJ and ML to meet up with us at the play area after their ride was over. Well, we had never been to this play area before, and one look at the setup told us our plan to just meet up there was NOT going to work. The place is a maze! A zoo! A dungeon of dread! There are tunnels everywhere, tunnels that you, the grownup, are expected to follow your child through. On your knees. In the dark. If any of you other brave exploring parents saw a little girl dressed in pink scooting through the tunnels on December 3rd, followed by two grownups calling after her “Wait for us! We’re old!” Well, that was us. Nice to meet you, too. About 10 minutes of this seventh circle of heck was all that I could take, so I instituted plan b. We would return to the offload area for Star Tours and meet UJ and ML as they disembarked. So we went back, and waited. And waited. And waited. Around now was when I realized that UJ’s cell phone was in MY backpack, and theoretically speaking, he could be scooting around the dark cold tunnels of the play area of doom looking for us with no way to get in touch. Not good, and our ADR for Brown Derby was fast approaching. After some more panic, we see them finally heading off the ride. Turns out they rode it twice. Humph.

So, off to Brown Derby just a few minutes late. ML, as you may have noticed, was having some food issues on this trip. Specifically, he was obsessed with grilled cheese. When he ate at Brown Derby on his trip in April, he had a grilled cheese sandwich that apparently was the pinnacle of grilled cheese sandwiches across the planet. So, ever since our arrival at Disney, he had been on a quest for this nirvana of cheese. At each restaurant, he was disappointed to learn that the famous sandwich was not on their menu, which lead to various complaints, whining, and, sadly, hot dogs. I had checked out the kids BD menu earlier and saw that the sandwich was no longer on the menu, and had given him a heads up to attempt to avoid a mid-restaurant meltdown. However, a query to our waiter resulted in him being able to have the sandwich. Hooray waiter! DMC had the standard mac and cheese and both kids had a salad to start, no dressing, extra carrots. The grownups started with the seared sea scallop with corn relish and barbecued pork belly. This was tasty, but I did not eat much of the pork—it was richer than I was expecting (my fault obviously!). Mains were the filet for Mom and UJ (only OK—kind of tough, and not very hot), the chicken with cashew currant pilaf for me (again, OK, though the pilaf was good). Desserts were the grapefruit cake and crème brulee, both good. Service was excellent here, very attentive to the kids, who were well behaved and quiet for the entire linner, yea!

After eating we split up again. UJ, ML, and I headed back to Star Tours to get ML his promised toy (Mace Windu lightsaber. To be added to the Yoda, Anakin, Darth Vader, and Obi Wan lightsabers already in his collection), while Mom took the DMC to purchase some princess-related paraphernalia. We met up outside the entry point for the Fantasmic preferred seating and headed up, getting good seats towards the top and one section over from the furthest to the right section. We had to wait a while for the show. I tried to buy the kids popcorn but the lines were outrageous. Oh well. The kids really liked Fantasmic. I was not impressed. So much of it was just videos being shown on water screens! I would have preferred more characters. I did not like feeling that I had sat and waited for an hour just to watch a movie. Oh well, as I said, the kids liked it, and that is what really mattered.

After our long and full day at the Studios, we climbed back into Behemoth to head back to Shades of Green. It was so quiet in the back seat, I thought the kids must be sleeping. Suddenly, a little voice pops up from the back. It is the DMC:
“AB, I did NOT like Test Track or Soarin’, and it is all your fault!”
Huh, why is it my fault?
“Because, it just is.”
Oh, OK then.
Humph.
 
Day 5 -- 12/4

The plan for today was to get to Animal Kingdom for opening. The children really enjoyed the cute opening ceremony during our last trip and we were able to walk right on to the safari before the lines got long and the park got hot. UJ had been a great sport all trip about getting up in the morning, and he agreed he could do it one more day. He would sleep in Monday when our plan was to go back to Magic Kingdom...again.

From AB's posts you know that we did finally find the express cafe at Shades of Green. We asked where it was...I know, I know, pure genius. So every day since we've been having bagels and DMC has been eating this giant cinnamon roll as big as her head. I can't wait to develop the pictures I took of her shoving her face into it then looking up with her whole face covered in sticky white frosting and cinnamon. Those will be coming out again when she starts bringing dates home...she'll be 30 of course.

We arrived at Animal Kingdom slightly later than we had planned. We were there before opening, but there is a large crowd in front of us...the bag checking line was interminable!...and we couldn't really see the truck with the characters. We saw Mickey wish us an adventurous day and everyone swarmed into the park.

Yup, we would be getting FastPasses for safari.

We decided to hike the Pangani Forest Trail while we waited. I gladly ditched the stroller...have I mentioned that this stroller is the worst stroller ever? The wheels get twisted around so it sometimes decides not to go, usually when there is a giant crowd of people restlessly waiting in line behind me. The night of the Christmas party, AB pushed ML in one of the park strollers and it was easier to move around than DMC's. And he is 20 pounds heavier. At this point, Day 5, I was really ready to just abandon it completely, but I was worried that park officials would consider that suspicious and have to call the bomb squad, close the park, etc. I didn't want that on my conscience. Plus, we had an itinerary to stick to.

AB adds: not really. I offered to rent her a park stroller, but Mom did not want one because she thought DMC would not be as comfortable and would complain. Would scream, actually. Scream a lot. So, we pushed the broken stroller around all week. My only consolation was that DMC only wanted Mom to push, so only one person’s back got broken, and it was not mine.

I don't know if the regular trips to our local zoo had any effect, but the children had very little interest in the forest trail. "Oh, there's a gorilla."

"Another gorilla." "ANOTHER gorilla." And they marched along more interested in the trail maps. They did, briefly, have modest interest in the bird area because they liked trying to match the birds they saw with the ones on the bird guide. Of course, DMC would point out what one she thought it was and ML would yell, "No, Caili! That one has YELLOW feet!" I think the birds were happy to see us leave. At least the children didn't try to chase them...much.

Then it was time for the safari. DMC was upset because she was convinced that the truck was going to go fast like Test Track...we scarred her for life. I took her on despite her protests, and wouldn't you know it? We were seated directly behind the driver so that any time he accelerated even slightly he had to listen to her moaning and complaining about how he WAS driving fast.

As far as animal sightings, this was by far the best of the times I have been to Animal Kingdom. I think the thing I was most surprised by was to see some of the cheetahs prowling around. We steered clear, and I wondered if we had taken a different route just to avoid them. The lion yawned for us and we saw lots of elephants, including a baby. I was impressed. DMC not so much. "Did you like that Caili?" "No."

"Didn't you like seeing all the animals?" "I liked the animal part but not the rest...it was TOO FAST!"

Okay.

After that, it was time to head over to the Lion King show. This, to me, is a do not miss. It is worth coming to Animal Kingdom just for this show. It is entertaining, impressive and so well done. The cast is immensely talented...in fact I recognized most of the members from our April trip...and my children loved it, although DMC did hide her eyes a lot during the Be Prepared segment with the fire-eater.

We got the children cheese quesadillas at Pizza Safari. Let the complaining begin. ML wouldn't eat his because there were three small pieces of oregano on the outside. AB brushed them off. He still refused. He just wanted to eat the crackers and grapes and that was it. I knew he would be a bear if that was all he ate, so I instituted a new rule...if you don't eat the food we buy you, you have to pay for it. Lo and behold, ML and DMC ate most...well, half...of the quesadillas without further complaint.

At least if you don't count the scowls and eye rolling and clear thoughts that Mom and AB are the meanest people in the world.

AB and I shared a turkey wrap from Tusker House, which I thought was pretty good, but AB didn't like because it had taboulleh on it. She liked the corn chowder and cucumber salad that came with it though. UJ had the rotisserie chicken, which he said was good. This was definitely, by far, the best counter service we had on the trip.

I would eat there again if I needed a little something for lunch.

AB adds: Since the kids were still hungry from the quesadilla non-eating event, I offered to buy them some more food at Tusker House. ML of course wanted grilled cheese. They of course did not have any. Much whining and crying ensued. At this point I was starting to lose my temper again. Of all the things that bothered me, the kids (well, really just ML’s) food complaint was the hardest issue for me to handle. At home he is not the pickiest eater, but he was having a tough time at Disney. Partly this was because he has food allergies that prevent him from being able to eat most items on the kid’s menus, such as chicken fingers, fish and chips, almost all desserts, etc, but he was not interested in ordering off the adult menus. I asked him, if he could have anything at all to eat, what would he have, and he said: “Something that tastes like it does at home!” Great, we are not at home, we are in Florida! Thankfully I noticed Tusker House was selling fruit cups and yogurts, so I bought them some of that, which was quickly and gratefully consumed. Of course, the sugar in the yogurt may have contributed to the next incident…

After lunch, we went to the Maharajah Jungle Trek, where AB and I teetered on the brink of insanity. You see, as soon as we entered the trail, DMC noticed a lantern on the path and inside the lantern was a dead bee. "It's a dead, dead bee!" said ML in what I call his baby voice. I would rather chew on aluminum foil than listen to it. After that, instead of looking at the animals, marveling at the tigers, or paying any attention whatsoever, all the children did was run from one lantern to another gleefully exclaiming, "The dead, dead bee!" Look, there's a tiger. "A dead, dead bee!" Look at those birds. "A dead, dead bee!"

Finally, when I could take no more and I was either going to explode or find a way to fling myself in with the tigers, I said the next person to say anything about dead bees was going back to the hotel. So they didn't say it. But they still looked at each other and thought it.

I was so grateful to see the stroller at the exit, I immediately plunked DMC into it and ended the entire nonsense. Lousy stroller or not, it was, if nothing else, a way to separate the children.

From there we went to Dinoland, USA and spent too much money on games so the children could get cheap toys that suddenly became like a favorite blanket and we couldn't go anywhere without them. We also went into the Boneyard for a while and lost each other.

AB adds: Although the play areas were huge and easy to lose each other in, the kids were grateful for the time to just run around and free play. ML tried out all of the slides, which is unusual for him. I was a little concerned about UJ though. I lost track of him for a while, and then spotted him leaning against a railing, staring off into space, eyes completely glazed over. I went to ask him what was up, and he just looked at me forlornly. “It’s a madhouse in here,” he said sadly. “Don’t worry dear, just a little longer and you can go off to the ESPN club and play with the other grownups”, I said. Then I leaned over and whispered the magic word in his ear (which, of course, is “beer”). That perked him up!

The time was getting late, and AB had promised UJ that she would get him to the ESPN Club in time to watch the Patriots/Jets game. The only problem was that DMC found a sandbox and refused to leave. I don't know how we ever got the children out of there...bribery, probably...but they brought a pound of coarse sand out of the place with them.

We valeted the car at Boardwalk, then walked over to Epcot. UJ didn't need to leave just yet and it was too early for AB, Mom and children to head to Norway for our 4:20 ADR at the Princess Storybook Dinner...a dinner the children didn't know about because they had convinced themselves on our last trip that they didn't want anything to do with eating with any characters.

Maybe it was because I told ML that Snow White had once given my brother a kiss when he was little.

I have a photo of this if you want me to paste it in. Heh heh.

Whatever the reason, both children refused to do character meals and had no interest in finding the Princesses in the parks. AB and I decided to overrule this and went ahead and made the reservation, especially since DMC loves the Princesses. Her whole bedroom is filled with Princesses. We figured they would like it once they were there. I just know you are sensing impending disaster.

But it wasn't. After UJ left for the football game, AB and I walked around World Showcase with the children. We spotted Aurora and Belle in the garden in England and asked DMC if she wanted to get her picture taken with Aurora...her favorite Princess.

DMC refused and ML didn't help matters by restating his position that he didn't want to meet ANY Princesses. I took him aside and explained that we were going to dinner with the Princesses and I expected him to be polite, to take nice pictures and to encourage his little sister to do the same. I explained that DMC loves the Princesses and she was saying she didn't like them because of ML. He promised to be good, and immediately went over to DMC and said how much fun it was going to be to eat dinner with the Princesses. See? He's not always a terror.

AB adds: Do not discount the reason for ML’s amazingly good behavior from this point on: bribery by me, pure and simple. If they were well behaved, they knew a trip to the UK toy shop would be the first stop after dinner. Once we got to the dinner, we also told them that if they misbehaved Mary Poppins would have something to say about it. That got them to sit up in their chairs and be good!

DMC was definitely not certain how she felt about this whole dinner thing, so I bought her and ML autograph books on the way to Norway. After DMC got her first, Belle, she had more confidence in her character interactions. She still took some really goofy pictures...frowns, eyes closed, looking like she wanted to escape...but she always smiled when any character signed her book.

The dinner was okay. AB and I shared a bottle of wine...we had been waiting for it since the "dead, dead bee" episode. The appetizer buffet was large, but I didn't get much, which turned out to be a good thing. Once everyone in our section had their appetizers, the Princesses came flying through at record speed. I had no sooner put a piece of cheese or bite of bread in my mouth, when another was there at our table for autographs and photos. We saw Belle (for just $31.95 we could have a photo package of the children with Belle that featured DMC frowning...we passed), Aurora, Mary Poppins, Jasmine, and Cinderella. Jasmine was ML's favorite. I think it was because she admired his drawings. AB thinks it's because she was the least dressed. She may have a point. His other favorite on the trip was Ariel. But he's only 6!

AB adds: I thought the amount of time the Princesses spent at the table was more than adequate—just a few minutes, long enough to sign the kids’ books and take a photo, ask a question or two. This was enough, in my opinion. Note also that Jasmine came back at the end of the dinner and chatted with ML for a little longer.

I forgot to mention that of course, most of the little girls were dressed in their Princess finery. Not DMC.

Yes, she always wears pink. Yes, she has numerous Princess dresses, but she didn't want to wear any of them. Why? It was Sunday and the Patriots were playing so she had to wear her Tom Brady jersey.

The food was okay...I wouldn't go out of my way to eat it again. My salmon was more cooked than I like and the honey-mustard sauce was too strong and overwhelmed the flavor of the fish. With salmon, that is pretty hard to do. AB had the pasta, vegetarian, which she said was okay, but the portion was just gargantuan, way too much food.

After dinner, ML and I joined UJ at ESPN for the end of the Pats game while AB took DMC for a stroll along the Boardwalk. At ESPN I got to have a Sam Adams, which I had been missing all trip. Red Hook just isn't the same. And of course, the Pats won, so that was good.

We returned to Epcot for our second viewing of Illuminations...excellent again, although not nearly as good a viewing spot as from the boat. It was a short round table that night, since AB and Mom were planning to make Magic Kingdom opening in the morning.
 
Maybe it was because I told ML that Snow White had once given my brother a kiss when he was little.

I have a photo of this if you want me to paste it in. Heh heh.

Now, see, she puts this in without the picture! For posterity:

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Note: for this day we split up a lot so my sister and I wrote this report together. Her comments are in black, mine are in blue.

For our final full day at Disney, we chose to return to Magic Kingdom. First of all, we knew there was nothing DMC would be scared of and second, even though we had been twice previous, we hadn't been there for any significant length of time.

We arrived for opening, and it was worth it. DMC was thrilled that Mickey greeted us and AB and I shared a knowing glance when the dancers broke into "Good Morning, Good Morning!" We used to sing and dance around our old apartment to that song on good days...usually weekends. On not good days, we sang "I Hate to Work!" Not surprisingly, this was Monday through Friday.

For our first ride, we decided to try Pooh, it wasn't crowded, so we got into line. Suddenly, DMC flipped out, started screaming and yelling about how she didn't want to go on the ride. I explained that we were in line for Pooh, a ride she liked not even four days ago. But this was the new world, post Test-Track and she didn't want anything to do with it. I gave a confused shrug to the family behind us, they said they would hold our spot. I said that we wouldn't be back.

I took DMC to the adjacent Pooh play yard and waited for AB and ML. The play yard is designed for children under five, and I would say DMC was even beyond most of it, but it was cute. While waiting, I asked DMC why she didn't want to go on Pooh. She replied, "I don't want to go on any more rides!"

Okay.

So once AB and ML disembarked from Pooh, I offered DMC a couple choices on what we could do. I knew she was very interested in meeting Mickey, but it wasn't 10 yet, so ToonTown wasn't open. So we did the only thing we could do. We rode Small World again.

After that, it was Mickey's Philharmagic, and by that time, ToonTown was open so all of us went there.

After standing in line for five minutes at the ToonTown Barn and not moving, ML began protesting. "I DON'T WANT TO MEET THE CHARACTERS!"

Okay. So we decided to split up. DMC wouldn't let me leave her side, so AB bravely agreed to take ML...for an hour.

AB adds: Not so! It was an hour and a half.

I wished her luck then headed to Mickey's house with DMC. She enjoyed meeting Mickey, but the time at ToonTown always seems a little rushed. I think that was okay with her though because she isn't the type of child to hug the characters or do much more than ask for an autograph and take a picture...usually.

After Mickey, we went back to the ToonTown Barn and waited in the line for the Mickey characters. There are three lines...one for Mickey characters (although I don't think he is there...he is at his house), one for Pooh characters and another for Princesses. DMC was eager to meet Minnie and Pluto, since she hadn't yet (we had seen Goofy at the entrance earlier). Sure enough, when it was our turn, it was Minnie, Pluto and Goofy. DMC was the last child in the short line...they allow three to four families into the character area at a time...which meant she got loads of attention from all the characters. Since none of them had much to do after interacting with her until the next group was let in, they came up and waved, blew kisses, and played Peek-A-Boo. She really enjoyed it. Of all the character spots I have been to, this was the most relaxed. I even saw Pluto get down on the ground and crawl around with a baby who wasn't yet walking. It was very cute...and memorable for the parents I am sure.

After this, it was getting close to meeting time, so I decided to head back toward Fantasyland. Cinderellabration was starting at the castle, but DMC wanted no part of it. I could tell it was going to be a high-maintenance day.

AB and ML were a little late getting back, and we were all starting to get hungry. All except ML who had an illegal ice cream treat during the break thanks to AB.

She would pay for it later though.

AB adds: So rather than standing in line with a whiny ML, I decided we would split up. To be honest, I really did not feel like meeting any more characters either. ML told me that he definitely wanted to ride Thunder Mountain, so we headed over. On the way, I told him what Splash Mountain was like, as this was on his “for your consideration” list.

There was no ride for Thunder, so we hopped right on the train. ML seemed OK at first. About a third of the way through, I noticed he was looking a little agitated. Halfway through, he told me he did not like the ride and wanted to get off. Now. Great…I told him: “Don’t worry, we just have this one last hill to go up, two more spins, and it is over!” Then, it happened. An angel must have been smiling on me, because the thing I hoped for most occurred.


The ride broke.


Halfway up the hill, the ride came to a complete stop. Thank you lord! I knew they likely would not be able to restart the ride and we’d be getting evacuated, thereby sparing ML the continued torture of Thunder Mountain.

To all the grownups on the ride who decided to moan and yell about the fact that “the train was going to slide down the hill and we’d all get hurt” umm…no. And thanks for upsetting all the kids on the ride.


ML was fine, actually. I think he was so happy that the ride stopped, he could not care less about why it did. He turned to me while we were waiting and said: “AB, do you know what? I think I used The Force to stop the ride!” OK, Luke Skywalker, maybe you did.


So, we got evacuated from Thunder, which was interesting—we walked under the mountain, saw all the wires and stuff, walked through a tunnel that according to ML “UJ would have bonked his head on,” received fast passes good for any other fp ride in the MK, and headed on our way.


After disembarking from the wildest ride in the wilderness, I bought ML an ice cream as bribery for the TM trauma, and then we rode Haunted Mansion next, at ML’s request. This was fine, he likes the end when the ghost hitches a ride.


We rode Buzz next, using our fastpasses, and I got my all-time highest score (365,200). Liam got 65,000, but according to him, he won, since “my first number is higher than yours.” I can live with that. Then, we rejoined the DMC and Mom.

We decided to try Columbia Harbour House since it was right there and AB had heard decent things about it.

Okay, I was always told to say three positive things before I said anything negative, so here's the positive: 1. They had malt vinegar, 2. the upstairs was pretty quiet and uncrowded and had windows, 3. um...I only had to eat there once.

And so now the negative: I don't know who AB was talking to, but this was definitely the worst meal I ate at Disney. Both AB and I ordered the fried fish baskets and the children got the macaroni and cheese. Our fish was horrible. I eat a lot of fish, but this was completely unidentifiable...Mystery Fish. Food like this is the reason so many people dislike seafood. The fries were soggy. The children's macaroni and cheese looked like it had been regurgitated and then scooped up with an ice cream scooper and plopped into their plastic Mickey trays.

Did I mention that it was nuclear orange?

ML, after we struggled to eat enough calories to avoid passing out the rest of the day, said, "AB, I'm glad you said I didn't have to eat this. It looks gross!" That about sums it up. Just to include UJ in the misery, AB and I gave him half our meals when he showed up halfway through the lunch. It was his breakfast. Well, it wasn't a bagel.

After the dismal food, we decided to leave Magic Kingdom and head for Epcot. Afterall, DMC wasn't riding any rides anyway.

Now comes the cutest part of the trip. I have retold this to adults and they have been in tears. So have I. We decided to stand in a character line that is reserved for people who have a Disney Visa. It is in Innoventions, so ML was perfectly happy to play the videogames while we waited. In fact, he would have preferred to just keep playing the videogames, but being the mean Mom that I am, I made him get in line with us at the end.

The whole deal with this line is that there is a character at the end...only you don't know which one. I believe it is guaranteed to be a major character, but other than that, there is no clue. AB and I did hear rumors in line that Mr. Mouse was behind the curtain, but DMC was kept in suspense. Our turn arrived, the curtain was flung back and surprise! It was Mickey Mouse!

DMC was SO excited that she skipped and hopped and ran all the way into his arms. (Remember how I said she never hugged characters?) He tickled her with his nose, she hopped some more, she may have even kissed him. It was so adorable. I was teary-eyed. I can't speak for AB or UJ, but UJ did say on the way out "That was so worth it!" Who knows? She may turn out to be the unruly teenager that I kick out of the house and ends up living with her grandparents like my mother predicts, but I will always remember that moment.

ML was good and got his book signed and posed for the obligatory picture, but after that, he said he had no interest in seeing any other characters.

After Mickey, since the children ate no lunch, I offered to get them a snack. ML immediately asked for an ice cream, but I pointed out that he had already had one that day. At which point, he completely freaked and yelled at AB about how she said she wasn't going to tell me she bought him an ice cream. Like I wouldn't have figured it out anyway. And like AB was really going to let him have TWO ice creams in one day. Please. He gets a sugar rush from fruit.

Faced with the choice of no snack or something other than ice cream, ML settles on Cheetos. DMC has the chocolate chip ice cream sandwich that she barely eats. Then it is time for Mom and the children to head back to the hotel to get changed for our one dress-up dinner at California Grill.

AB adds: Yippee! It is time for me and UJ to have our first “alone time” of the week! An entire 90 minutes all to ourselves! After we saw Mom and the kids off, we headed over to Mission: Space. It was dead. So dead that UJ and I had our own vehicle! UJ joked with the CM that we were definitely going to fail our space training without half our team members. He told us to sit in the middle of the vehicle and try to push all of the buttons. Um, no, I am not looking away from that screen and getting vertigo or whatever happens when you don’t follow the instructions. So we rode to Mars, found out what happens when you don’t have a full team (not much) and got off the ride, to discover an interesting side effect to Mission: Space. I had a sealed sport bottle of water in my backpack. Over the course of the ride, all of the water extruded out through…somewhere—the bottle still looked sealed, and filled my backpack with 24 ounces of mountain spring goodness! Thankfully, my camera was wrapped in plastic and the cell phone survived the deluge.


After the excitement of Mission: Space, we went for a walk around the World Showcase, and then headed back to the room to clean up.

I figured it would take us an hour to get back, with me pushing the back-breaking stroller and us walking from the Polynesian to Shades of Green, but we made better time. I think it took 15 minutes from arrival for the children to get changed into their "best suits" as ML said and to be ready to go.

This was bad. We still had an hour before the scheduled departure time. Any time the children spend time in the hotel room, aside from sleeping, it is not good.

They were fine while I got myself together, but by the time AB and UJ returned, ML and DMC were out of control. ML kept opening the adjoining door while AB and UJ were trying to get dressed. He was throwing things around the room. I had to drag him back into our room after a successful breach of security.

By the time we left for the California Grill, we were all dreading what seemed sure to be a torturous meal. We had all been looking forward to a pleasant and special ending to our trip, but it didn't seem like it was going to happen.

But somehow, it did. Once we were inside the restaurant, and not a minute before, ML settled down and was the perfect little boy. He didn't complain. He didn't run around the table. He ate his food. It was a shocking, but welcome, transformation from the terror that was running around the check-in lobby just moments before.

AB adds: this behavior was enhanced in no small part by two things: the activity packets UJ and I picked up on our stroll around Epcot (for $8, you get about 12 sheets of paper with Mickey pictures to color, a set of markers, and four sheets of stickers), and the fact that our waiter brought over a huge stack of blank paper also. They spent the entire night coloring, and in ML’s case, designing new rides. Quietly.

We had a great time at California Grill. I had never been, so I let AB and UJ take the lead in ordering selections and wine. We had a delicious flatbread with wild mushrooms and gorgonzola cheese to start. I was a little skeptical, but it was delicious. It didn't exactly go with the Charles Krug sauvignon blanc I had ordered as a starter though. The wine was delicious, but I wished I had finished it before the appetizer. For a first course, AB and I split the pumpkin soup and we ordered glasses of pinot noir...I can't remember the label, but I am sure AB does.

AB adds: Yup, I do. It was Gary Farrell. Yum!

The soup was good...very fall-like. For an entree I had the beef fillet. Normally, I don't eat as much beef as I did this trip, but I ordered this to make up for the disappointing filet mignon I had at Brown Derby. This beef was much better cooked and juicier. I didn't really care for the barbecue-type sauce on it...not that it was bad, but I think another choice of sauce would have been better. The scalloped potatoes were delicious. I am pretty sure there was a vegetable too, but I can't remember what it was. Vegetables were so few and far between on this trip (with the obvious exception of french fries and other potatoes) that it is a wonder the lot of us didn't return home with scurvy. Isn't hyperbole allowed on these reports?

AB adds: I had the chili rubbed chicken with sofrito and goat cheese tamale, chayote salad, and cherry mojo, and UJ had the short ribs. To start, he had the same foie gras he enjoyed so much on his birthday meal at CG a few weeks ago. All of the food was uniformly excellent, as was the service.

The meal lasted much longer than we expected. ML was built a special dessert made up of huge chunks of fruit that the children both completely devoured. We saw Wishes from the roof and returned to the table, but we decided to skip dessert. It was getting late, and we needed to get the children a good night's sleep before travel the following day.

We stayed up way too late at the Round Table that night. Since it was our last evening, we needed to finish the last bottle of wine that AB and UJ had brought with them. Fortunately, we didn't also feel the same way about the beer we left in the fridge.


Housekeeping would have found us comatose the next day.
 
December 6

Our final day! AB wrote the bulk of this text, so I, AKA Mom, will leave her writing in black and will color mine in red.

This was our final day at Disney. We had the morning to spend in the parks before heading to the airport for the 2:15 flight back to Boston. I decided we were going to Epcot, and was not brooking any protest. I wanted to get on Soarin’ at least once, hopefully twice more. Luckily for them, the crew readily agreed to my suggestion.

We were too tired to argue. Oh, and AB decided to get us all breakfast one last time. She asked what I wanted. I said, "ANYTHING but a bagel!" So what does she bring back? A bagel loaded with bacon, egg and cheese. To which she gleefully proclaimed, "I brought you all great, big greasy bagels!" Um...thanks. Actually, after all the wine the night before, it tasted pretty good.

Shades of Green (and I think the other Disney resorts also), have a great program for checked luggage. At SOG it is called BAGS. Basically, you pay $10 per person, and the hotel gets all of your checked bags to the airport and on the flight. One kid per adult is free. This is a great service! We just had the bellman come get everything, he checked us on to our flights, and we were on the way. And the bags did arrive at Logan! Surprise!

We piled into Behemoth and headed off to Epcot, arriving not that late after the opening.

I headed off and got fastpasses for Soarin’ while everyone else brought up the rear at a slower pace. We weren't offered caffeine. After getting the passes, we split up again. UJ took ML back to Innoventions to play with those video games, and Mom and I took DMC to the Epcot character connection. This was nicely set up and not busy at all. DMC got to meet and take photos with Mickey, Minnie, Goofy, Pluto, Chip and Dale, and Donald. She opted out of photos with Mary Poppins, Captain Hook and Smee, and Baloo.

That's because she doesn't know one of the characters, Baloo (refuses to watch Jungle Book for some reason); is afraid of two of the characters, Captain Hook and Smee (well, mostly Captain Hook...you should have seen her face when he strode out!); and she hasn't seen Mary Poppins in ages. The most DMC knows about Mary Poppins is that if DMC didn't behave at the Princess dinner, Mary Poppins would set her straight. Not an encouraging endorsement!

Funny aside: remember how earlier in the report we told you that Santa was a Patriots fan? Well, we learned today that Minnie is definitely NOT a Red Sox fan! She pointed at Mom’s Red Sox cap, shook her head, and stamped her foot. I guess Minnie roots for the Yankees.

She did look a bit embarrassed though :)

After we finished up at the character connection, we headed off for some shopping at Mousegear. I spent way too much money on Christmas presents for ML, DMC, and MAYBE someone else who might be reading this report J. The lines were really long and the cashier was really slow, which was irritating. (Even more irritating is that my package arrived yesterday, and the mickey beach hat I bought still had the security tag attached! Grr.)

ML was acting up a bit in the store, mainly because the toy he wanted was the Stitch football, and of course all he wanted to do was play football in the middle of the store. We had told ML earlier that if he was well behaved he could ride Soarin’ twice using DMC’s fastpass. I reminded him of this fact, but he continued to act up. So, this is when it became patently obvious that I am lacking in the discipline department. In a stern voice, I said to him: “Liam, if you do not start behaving right now, I am going to take the extra fastpass to Soarin’ and I am going to EAT IT!” Yes, folks, I officially lost my mind.

But, he did start behaving after that.

I was busy circling the store with DMC. Each child had been told that they could purchase one toy. ML immediately knew what he wanted. DMC had to ponder everything. She circled around and around and around and around. Finally, she settled on the Disney bear, after picking it up and putting it back no less than five times. No wonder ML was irritated. Even I thought we were in the store forever!

After shopping, UJ, ML, and I went off to ride Soarin’. DMC was having nothing to do with it of course. This time we got row three. UJ left to join Mom and DMC and ML and I hopped right back on Soarin’. Row two this time. I was hoping for one more row one, but oh well, next trip I guess.

We left Soarin’ to meet the others. During the time we were riding Soarin’, Mom was supposed to be taking DMC on Imagination. But she didn’t. “I was waiting for you,” she said. “Oh, look, it is time to go to the airport,” she said. Uh-huh. I suppose three times on Imagination is enough for anyone. After all, we did have to ride Small World five times.

Okay, we only rode Imagination once, just for the record. Also, I would have sacrificed myself to the torture of Imagination one more time, but we were stuck in Mousegear for quite a long time after AB, UJ and ML departed. The line was SO slow. I figured we would be late meeting them. Little did I know that it took them 15 minutes to get on the ride.

So, into Behemoth for the final trip to the airport, event free. Except when we all turned around at the gate and waved goodbye to Disney. Even though I doubt I could have survived another day, it was sad to leave.

Returned Behemoth to the folks at Budget (love the fastbreak program) with no problems.

No lines at security, yea! I did not have to go in to the air blasting machine of doom this time, double yea! The flight home, though 20 minutes late, was uneventful, and I am pleased to note that I maintained the all-time top ten first place ranking on the Song Trivia challenge for the duration of the flight, despite the valiant efforts of UJ and Mom to unseat me.

Yeah, yeah...I did have a bit of a distraction in DMC...oh right, she was sleeping most of the time :blush:

Our town car driver was there to meet us at the very very very cold airport (we used Extreme Limousine. They were very good—prompt, polite, good condition car), and we were home and unpacked by 7 PM.

Um...I just finished unpacking yesterday. Well, actually, I still see a carry-on bag in my bedroom.

Next up, final thoughts, lessons learned.
 
What a great report! Sounds like your kids were a little challenging at times but you still had a good time, so well done to you. Will check out the photos later,

Claire xx
 
This is my wrap-up. AB will post hers after mine.

Any trip to Disney for me includes going to each of the four major parks, riding or seeing the major attractions (well, except for the scary ones! Remember? Confessed ride wimp?), seeing Spectromagic and Wishes, and seeing Illuminations. The following are extra things that I would try to either add or delete if possible.

Ten Things I Would Do Again (not in any particular order of preference)

1. California Grill -- just excellent, and seeing Wishes from the roof is a perfect nightcap.

2. Illuminations Cruise -- yes, it's expensive, but it's worth it. If my daughter hadn't been so nervous at the beginning, it would have been even better.

3. Sharks Grill at SeaWorld -- aside from California Grill, this was the best dining experience of the trip. I was really surprised by how much I enjoyed it, and the children did too because they left with shark cups and a shark cup holder. Any restaurant that gives them stuff is okay with them.

4. Coral Reef -- even though I didn't particularly enjoy my entree, I would definitely eat here again. Maybe without the children though as they did not particularly love their menu choices. They did love the decorative dolphins.

5. MVMCP -- definitely worth the extra admission price. This was, for me, the most magical night of our trip. It reminded me why I fell in love with Disney in the first place.

6. Brown Derby and Fantasmic Package -- I know AB will disagree here, but even though UJ and I didn't care for our entrees, we did have a very nice time there. The children love Fantasmic, so I will go again, but I would not wait an hour for it like you have to without the dining package.

7. Fly Song -- too bad they are going to be nonexistent come spring. The seats were comfortable, the staff was friendly, and the food (I had a turkey sandwich on the return flight) was actually tasty.

8. Use BAGS -- Very easy and definitely worth not dragging the luggage around with you the final day.

9. Stay at Shades of Green -- the rooms were comfortable and clean, the staff was friendly and helpful, the location was good, and the price just can't be beat.

10. Meet characters at ToonTown Barn in Magic Kingdom and at the Character Greet in Epcot -- rather than waiting in 20 minute lines for each character elsewhere in the parks, in these locations, you wait in line and then meet three or four characters all at once. At ToonTown, you can choose from Mickey characters, Pooh characters or Princesses, so if you're collecting autographs, you can pick the people you haven't met yet. Also at Epcot, there were several characters outside the greeting area with short to no-wait lines. These areas also allowed a little more time for interaction than the long lines in other areas of the parks.

Ten Things I Would Not Do Again (not in particular order)

1. Raglan Road -- really disappointing.

2. Counter Service -- next trip, I am definitely bringing PB+J sandwiches into the parks. And if that fails, I'll stick with fruit and Mickey bars.

3. Take the back-breaking stroller -- it's a Safety First model.

4. Go on Imagination -- I wish!

5. Go to the Honey I Shrunk the Kids playground...or worse...

6. Suggest the above area as a meeting place.

7. Go to Dinoland, USA -- waste of money in the arcade area and I would never take the two children by myself to the Boneyard. I would definitely lose one or both of them.

8. Have the children spend any time in the hotel room unless they are sleeping or bathing.

9. Order food from Private Dining for the Illuminations Cruise -- I would order wine though. Or maybe champagne.

10. Princess Storybook Dinner -- it was okay, but you don't go for the food, and the children were not enchanted enough to make me want to return. And I think children who really were excited about meeting the Princesses may have been disappointed at how quickly they swept through the room.

Well, that sums it up. I hope you enjoyed reading!
 
Liamsaunt’s Top 10 favorites:


1. Illuminations Cruise, and holiday Illuminations. This was truly a special experience, especially once DMC started to enjoy herself. I would definitely book this again, despite the expense.

2. MVMCP. Again, worth the extra cost to be able to walk on to the rides and enjoy a truly special holiday parade and fireworks display.

3. Wishes. Puts a tear in my eye every time.

4. California Grill. Great food, great service, great fireworks, and the kids were well behaved. What more could I ask for?

5. Soarin’. Just the best. Especially row one.

6. Walking around World Showcase with DH. Our favorite part of our favorite park. Next time we might schedule in a little more downtime for just the two of us. It was very relaxing.

7. Hanging around the roundtable. I loved relaxing and recapping the day after the kids were asleep.

8. Seeing Disney through a child’s eyes for the first time. No further explanation required.

9. Shades of Green. Huge rooms, quiet, good location, and adjoining rooms. All for $97 a night!

10. Disney Dining Experience card. This card paid for itself three times over. If you have an AP and you eat table service, this card is totally worth it.

Liamsaunt’s top 10 least favorites:

1. Fighting with ML about food. We should have stopped for groceries on the way to the hotel. Next time I am calling wegoshop.

2. DMC’s reaction to Test Track and Soarin’. I felt really bad that she was frightened by these rides, and it impacted the rest of our trip.

3. The cost of photopass pictures. 12.99 each? And why don’t they make 4x6 prints available?

4. Imagination. Argh. Torture. 10 times worse than Small World.

5. Fantasmic! Too long of a wait for a mediocre show (imho)

6. The Dangerous Tunnels of Doom at Honey I Shrunk the Kids Playground. See trip report for details.

7. Food at Columbia Harbor House. Truly truly awful.

8. Pushing DMC’s backbreaking stroller of death. Disney strollers are so much better!

9. The dead dead bees.

10. Having to leave

That’s all for now! Let us know if you have any questions.



bye for now from:



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liamsaunt and liamandcaili
 
It was outstanding. I took a few tips out of it and am glad to have the heads up on the kids food--we will be bringing our own snacks!!!!! to have on hand. (I was disappointed to find out when I called that my grandfather- a WWII veteran was not able to stay at Shades Of Green--only active military, or you need to have retired with 20 years of service.)

Glad you had a great trip!!!!
 
Mad4Dizne said:
It was outstanding. I took a few tips out of it and am glad to have the heads up on the kids food--we will be bringing our own snacks!!!!! to have on hand. (I was disappointed to find out when I called that my grandfather- a WWII veteran was not able to stay at Shades Of Green--only active military, or you need to have retired with 20 years of service.)

Glad you had a great trip!!!!


Wow...I can't believe that WWII veterans do not qualify for stays at Shades of Green. That just seems wrong to me.

Thanks for the positive review and I hope you have a great trip!
 
I truly loved your trip report, and also loved that the 2 of you did it together. Really adds dimension and additional viewpoints, which I loved. Would love to be able to do this some day. We always say, "this trip we're definitely going to do a trip report", but so far, no luck. I hope you have printed and saved a hard copy for you and the kids to look back on someday!
 
We did print out the trip report...all 28 pages of it. Yikes! I guess if nothing else, we were thorough!

If I could figure out how to insert pictures I would. I guess I'll have to consult AB.
 
I am so glad I saw the link to this report-I REALLY enjoyed it.Very interesting to see the trip through both of you-parent and nonparent. :thumbsup2
 












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