letting newborns cry it out

[deegack]

Eight weeks is way too young to CIO. Babies usually aren't sleeping through the night at this point. At this age babies cry because they need something. Picking a baby up because he's crying for a reason is not going to spoil him or teach him bad habits. All she is teaching this child is that his mother doesn't love him.
We eventually did CIO with my dd, when she was nine months old and would wake to play in the middle of the night.

 

[CathrynRose]

I read it. It sounds fine.

White noise IN the room, won't cause the mom to not be able to hear her...it just causes the baby to not hear anything else.

 

[Soldier's*Sweeties]

I just went back and re-read the whole blog entry. She's harmless IMO. She dotes on her babies. Evening bed routines, lavender night time lotion, music. The fan is white noise for the baby, not the parents. At the end of the entry she even talk about how the cry it out method didn't work for her son so they stopped it.

Hee are the "offending" paragraphs:



I assume the baby is rooming in with the parents so as not to disturb the other kids, and if they were both keeping each other awake (parents and baby) a good solution is the closet....close to parents, away from siblings and with a barrier to make sleep easier. The fancreates white noise so mom and dad 's movements and talking don't wake her up. The crying it out is over. It did it's job, baby is fine and in a good sleep routine.

I'm not really seeing how mom is such a monster.

I did read the blog, but I didn't really look at it from your point of view.

I guess it doesn't seem as bad...At first glance it does...But after rethinking it, I guess it is okay.

 

[Magic Mom]

Eight weeks is way too young to CIO. Babies usually aren't sleeping through the night at this point. At this age babies cry because they need something. Picking a baby up because he's crying for a reason is not going to spoil him or teach him bad habits. All she is teaching this child is that his mother doesn't love him.
We eventually did CIO with my dd, when she was nine months old and would wake to play in the middle of the night.

I didn't do CIO to get my son to sleep through the night. We did it to get him to sleep during the night. He was sleeping all day (no matter what i did) and taking an hour nap at 1AM. So we did our best during the day to continually wake him and then did CIO at night. It took 10-12 days. We monitored him every minute he was crying and we did it because his doctor recommended it. He still got up at night for changings and feedings, but his sleep pattern was corrected.

 

[Tigger&Belle]

It's not what I did with any of my children and I am not a fan of young babies crying it out, but I don't think what she does is neglectful or worthy of harsh criticism. There are as many different ways to parent as there are parents and children.

 

[DMickey28]

CIO has so many different meanings to different people. I let my ODS FIO (Fuss it out) and it was for naps. He started sleeping through the night at 6 weeks and he was EBF at that point.

My YDS does have to full out CIO sometimes because he is just that baby. BUT there is a difference in his cries and probably only something his dad and I can tell at this point. He's also 22 months old and cries because he knows we will respond!!

 

[gillep]

My new house has the master bedroom on the first floor with a HUGE walk in closet and all of the other bedrooms on the 2nd floor. If I had a newborn I would seriously consider having him or her sleep in our closet so that the baby could be close, or we would have to move to sleeping upstairs.

 

[surfergirl602]

apparently (I'm still searching) there is a picture of the closet, and its small? And... I just found this out after asking, the person that posted this blog on facebook is the sister in law of this woman, and she is really concerned for the welfare of the baby.

 

[Soldier's*Sweeties]

apparently (I'm still searching) there is a picture of the closet, and its small? And... I just found this out after asking, the person that posted this blog on facebook is the sister in law of this woman, and she is really concerned for the welfare of the baby.

I'm sure there is more going on then?

 

[magiroux]

An 8 week old should never *have to be* crying themselves to sleep. They are either hungry or in pain. So, they either need to be fed or comforted.

I haven't read the blog but based on the discussion here, I think the Mom is clueless, at the very least. If her baby is colic he/she needs to be evaluated to see if they are allergic to the formula, or some other digestion issue. If she is breast feeding I would be very concerned for that baby. - JMO

 

[roxysmum123]

Everything we know about child development says that you cannot spoil an infant and that it is crucial for bonding and attachment to pick up that baby every time it cries. As long as you're physically able to do so, that baby should be reassured... if you're at your breaking point that's one thing, but if you're trying to teach an 8 week old to self soothe by sticking her in the closet you're out of your head.

 

[minkydog]

You're right... 8 weeks IS too young to let "cry it out".

I don't think I started that until the twins were around 6-7 months.

i agree. There's a big difference in a newborn crying and a 6-12 month crying. Newborns cry because there is a need. Older infants cry because of a lot of things, from pain and hunger to boredom and attention. I have no problem with "encouraging" an older baby to wait a little longer before i go to her (but not ignoring their needs entirely.) But a newborn only 8 wks old? Are these people smoking crack? I think CPS needs to take a look around

 

[surfergirl602]

I'm sure there is more going on then?

Yeah, I'm sure there probably is... and I'm sure the blogger isn't blogging that family stuff....

 

[Magic Mom]

apparently (I'm still searching) there is a picture of the closet, and its small? And... I just found this out after asking, the person that posted this blog on facebook is the sister in law of this woman, and she is really concerned for the welfare of the baby.

I'm not so sure I would hold the word of a woman who would bad mouth her sister in law on Facebook as Gospel. She sounds like a busy body with too much time on her hands. Maybe she should take up a hobby.

 

[deegack]

I didn't do CIO to get my son to sleep through the night. We did it to get him to sleep during the night. He was sleeping all day (no matter what i did) and taking an hour nap at 1AM. So we did our best during the day to continually wake him and then did CIO at night. It took 10-12 days. We monitored him every minute he was crying and we did it because his doctor recommended it. He still got up at night for changings and feedings, but his sleep pattern was corrected.

DD would go to sleep great but started to wake at 2 to play. Didn't want a bottle, her diaper wasn't bad, she just decided it was play time. It was right around the time she figured out how to sit up (she was delayed) so she thought it was cool and wanted to share with us. We did the go in a check on her every 5, then 10 minutes but it would make her louder so we checked on her once laid her down said night night and left. The first night was 17 minutes then 7 the next then 2 and finally none.

 

[surfergirl602]

I'm not so sure I would hold the word of a woman who would bad mouth her sister in law on Facebook as Gospel. She sounds like a busy body with too much time on her hands. Maybe she should take up a hobby.[/QUO


From what I can find, It was posted in a private group on facebook. And then others posted it to their walls.

I'm still doing research on this. lol I don't want to "badmouth" someone if they don't deserve it, but I am still disturbed by this. (and some other personal blog posts, actually)

 

[nmmom95]

I'm not a fan of letting a baby cry. I picked both of mine up right away. Crying is their only form of communication. How can you just ignore it?

FTR, I did this with both, and while one was a terrible sleeper, the other was great. They are 13 and 8 now and it goes by so fast, I'm glad I did it.

 

[lillygator]

I'm not so sure I would hold the word of a woman who would bad mouth her sister in law on Facebook as Gospel. She sounds like a busy body with too much time on her hands. Maybe she should take up a hobby.[/QUO


From what I can find, It was posted in a private group on facebook. And then others posted it to their walls.

I'm still doing research on this. lol I don't want to "badmouth" someone if they don't deserve it, but I am still disturbed by this. (and some other personal blog posts, actually)

if it saves a baby, busybody all day long.

 

[surfergirl602]

if it saves a baby, busybody all day long.

So apparently, this is her closet.
http://themomuniform.blogspot.com/2011/03/closet-organizing-ninja.html

 

[themilesfamily]

Eight weeks old is too young to let a child "cry it out." And I'm against the cry it out method, in general.

A child learns to self-soothe by being soothed by a parent. Here's an excellent article on the topic backed by research. It's worth reading if you're a parent or going to become a parent:

Dangers of “Crying It Out”: Damaging children and their relationships for the longterm
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/moral-landscapes/201112/dangers-crying-it-out

Someone on Huffington Post wrote this synopsis of the article...

In her recent piece for Psychology Today, Darcia Narvaez, an associate professor of psychology at Notre Dame, writes that when babies are stressed, their bodies release cortisol into their systems -- a toxic hormone that kills brain cells. Considering their brains are only 25 percent developed when they're born full-term and grow rapidly in their first year, killing off baby brain cells is a huge no bueno. Narvaez notes that studies out of Harvard, Yale, Baylor and other institutions show that said killing off of baby brain cells can lead to the higher probability of ADHD, poor academic performance and anti-social tendencies, and that human babies are hardwired for hands-on comfort and care.

"Babies are built to expect the equivalent of an 'external womb' after birth... being held constantly, breastfed on demand, needs met quickly," Narvaez writes. "These practices are known to facilitate good brain and body development. When babies display discomfort, it signals that a need is not getting met, a need of their rapidly growing systems."