Left over points

[troyandconnollysmom]

Does you use every point every year? What do you do if you have left over couple of points - bank them or don't worry about it? I am trying to decide how many points I should buy. I calculated that I need 151.333 points to stay in a 2 Br at SSR Thanksgiving week every other year - total of 227 points (either banking or borrowing from the next year). If I purchase 150 points that will not be enough for what we want to do. If I purchase 160 points that will be too many points. (from Texas I don't see how we can go to Disney more than every other year)

Any suggestions?

 

[dianeschlicht]

You can bank, but if you go everyother year, you may have a few points left over to rent out. Our friends have 151 points at OKW and try to go every other year. They usually have 10-16 points left over, so they end up having to rent those if they bank all of their next years points. This year, she has 16 points to rent that were banked in January. She plans to bank all her '03 points, so those banked '02 points have to be rented out.

 

[danny1649]

To see a program set up if you had 2 or 3 maybe even 8 or 9 points left at end of a year.You could donate those points for some folks and children that are not in such great shape with health issues and no way can they afford a Disney vacation.I think such a program would come up with several thousand points then work with Disney to provide some tickets and throw in some meals.Your 3 points and my 7 and in just a bit those points we could donate and the wonderful DVCER'S I know coul;d make a difference in the life of some folks that need a hand up.

 

[stacy6552]

Bank them. Use them up first the next time and youll have double to bank the next time. Keep it up and you'll have enough for an extra night or a second trip or a grand villa................

 

[pumpkinboy]

To see a program set up if you had 2 or 3 maybe even 8 or 9 points left at end of a year.You could donate those points for some folks and children that are not in such great shape with health issues and no way can they afford a Disney vacation.

I would think Disney would not want to run something like that, since those extra unused DVC points can be viewed a s"revenue enhancement" since they can rent the unused space for cash Notably, they Do have certain charitable programs benefitting certain special needs groups, thru the Make a Wish Foundation and thru the Starlight Foundation (both, I think, benefit children with terminal illnesses, and the latter certain kids with severe disabilities). As I understand it, Disney provides either free or very reduced cost admission tix for these kids.

Personally, I have been trying to figure out a way that a friend of ours with two retarded adult brothers waaaay up in northern Maine, can take them to WDW. I just know that a once-in-a-lifetime trip like this would thrill them to no end. Their folks don't have any money, a result of caring for two retarded adults their whole lives, and our friend and her hubby are a yoga teacher and public school teacher, respectively, so they do not have a lot to spare either. My thought was that we would take care of one of the brother's plane fare (probly from Bangor) out of frequent flyer miles, and collect leftover DVC points from member who want to do a little something to make two very special ppl very happy. I figure a 2 bedroom at OKW from a Sunday to Thursday in a really off time like early December would cost 110 pts, of which the DW and I could start the collection with 5-10, and solicit transfers of small leftovers on the rent-trade board and on this one. Still, this would be December 2004 so the DW and I will continue musing until this spring maybe. Do you all this this might work, or would we be thought of as sleazy, trying to solicit free points? Maybe if I posted their pix, or something, maybe send trip photos to any who donated? Any ideas as to how we might put such a plan into action without looking like we were trying to get something for nothing?

I also worry that ppl might perceive getting a 2 BR for them as excessive, but I think this would be the only way we could do it, since one of the brothers is more "with it" than the other, and uses this to play tricks on and generally bug his brother, so allowing each his own space is probably a good idea. Yeah, we're still musing here... Any thoughts?
Thx

 

[TroyWDW]

You don't need to have your contracts points exactly match the amount of points you use. You can bank your points each year, and any excess points will slowly accumulate. You won't lose any points.

Similarly, you can be a perpetual borrower (where your contract is a little too small) and you will borrow a few points each year. The result will be that twenty or thirty years down the road you'll have to skip an extra year (no points availble from the current year or next year).

I hope that makes sense.

How did you calculate that you need 151.333 points?

--- Scenario 1:

      Points
Year   Used
2005    227     (DVC vacation)
2006      0     (No DVC vacation, Bank points)
2007    227     (DVC vacation)
2008      0     (No DVC vacation, Bank points)
2009    227     (DVC vacation)
2010      0     (No DVC vacation, Bank points)
2011    227     (DVC vacation)
2012      0     (No DVC vacation, Bank points)
2013    227     (DVC vacation)
2014      0     (No DVC vacation, Bank points)
--------------------------------
       1135 Total points used over 10 years

       113.5 points per year

--- Scenario 2:

      Points
Year   Used
2005    227     (DVC vacation)
2006    227     (DVC vacation)
2007      0     (No DVC vacation, Bank points)
2008    227     (DVC vacation)
2009    227     (DVC vacation)
2010      0     (No DVC vacation, Bank points)
2011    227     (DVC vacation)
2012    227     (DVC vacation)
2013      0     (No DVC vacation, Bank points)
--------------------------------
       1362 Total points used over 9 years

       151.3 points per year

Maybe I misunderstood what you mean by "every other year". Just wanted to be sure the calculator didn't screw up.

Troy

 

[danny1649]

Those are just the people I would love to help if you can do a plan that will work,you've my 9 points to start with.I know it would be a lot of work I would support your efforts has best I could. Danny

 

[pumpkinboy]

Your 9 pts and our 10 and we're already 18% of the way to where we would need to be. I am just imagining these two very nice, very special grown men (well, physically grown, probably 6-9 in mental development, but really sweet) on their first day in the Magic Kingdom! Wow! These are guys who have never been south of Portland!

So what do you think? Maybe post pictures of them? Children tend to be an easier sell, but then there are lots of programs for special kids (though never really enough, when you come right down to it). Retarded adults can scare some folks, which is too bad, bcs these two are really great ppl. Perhaps we should solicit small point donations and then see about ppl with say more than 10 leftover points selling at reduced rates. I guess I am hoping to be able for these guys to do it for a net cost to their sister of around $2000. Any ideas?

Thx

 

[Merilyn]

Pumpkinboy, that is a very nice idea you have. I have a brother who is mentally retarded also. He lives with my sister and I. He loves our Disney trips and everyone there treats him so great. I think we could come up with a few points also. Let me know if you think it is going to work and how we can do it. Just pm me. If they get a 2 bedroom, then they can save cost by cooking if they have to. I have seen points donated for worthy causes. Is plane fare real expensive? If their room is covered with points, then most of the cost is plane fare and park passes. They have to eat anywhere. I think that is so nice of you to think of doing this for them. From one who knows the expense of caring for someone, I can just imagine how hard it is to vacation. It would be nice even for your friend and her husband, who also deserve a nice trip for their compassion and dedication to her brothers. I know it is hard! I know that employees get free passes 2 times a years. Maybe someone on these boards has some passes they are not going to use and they can give them to you for your friend. That would really help. Good luck and let us hear what's going on.

 

[pumpkinboy]

Plane fare would probably be around $250 per person, and we were planning to get one of those on frequent flyer miles, so that would leave roughly $750 for our friend and her hubby. Add to that the cost of park hoppers (maybe a length of stay pass would be best in this case) and some meals out and we're starting to bump up closer. Also I would anticipate needing to rent some of the points. Cooking one or more meals per day would be a big savings, which is why the DVC units would be so great for them.

Hmmm, this could be possible. I will broach the subject with our friend and see if we can't start work on this in, say, March; our home is BWV, but I would think we would want to do OKW for availability and lower point costs, so the seven month window would put us at April/May getting things together.

I welcome your thoughts on point gathering strategy, and making sure that ppl who do donate points to these two guys know that their generosity really made the guys happy (names are Kurt and Troy BTW).

 

[danny1649]

Well you got the ball rolling maybe PM Webmaster Doc (one great guy) and see if him or he thinks Pete would have any objections to a post on this to get some donated points for these deserving folks.I really think it could be put together.Doc is one smart guy on all things DVC and could give us great input on how to get it done.

 

[Lyndarella]

Please let us know what develops with this plan. I would be surprised if you would have to rent any of the points if you are allowed to pursue the project on this board. Many of us would like to send $ also to help with expenses.

 

[pumpkinboy]

OK, so I will check with MS, just to make sure this is kosher with them; I will also look for Doc (oh great wise one) to offer his opinion on the idea. I expect we will also check with our friend to see if she is comfortable with this plan (I expect so); I should also get some pictures of the guys for this project. If it turns out that this could be a go, we'll start soliciting small point donations in March-April (so folks will have more of an idea about what is left over). $ donation (tho a nice thought) would not be a good idea as cash is best dealt with by well-run charities (like the two mentioned above, among others), and would likely make our friend and her DH uncomfortable. But small point donations, I think would be a really nice way to do something great for a couple of guys who may not have been as lucky as we have been in this life (though, notably, they were lucky to be blessed with a loving and caring family who look after them); and its a good way to use up small numbers of expiring points.

So watch this board come March, and we'll see about getting this project off the ground. Those interested in helping can also email or PM me, and I can let you know once I have things rolling.

Thx for your thoughts, vibes and good wishes.

 

[ppiew]

I would certainly help and will be watching the boards for further info. If cash isn't appropriate, perhaps purchasing 1 day 1 park passes would be a help. Just a thought. Or Connections meal vouchers. I am sure there are a lot of creative ideas out there and DIS people are the best at helping others. Besides, I live in northern Michigan and I sympathize with ANYONE who has to tolerate and endless winter in the north!