Laws regarding public breastfeeding

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Again, I think what is legal is an entirely different topic from what is courteous. Of course women can breastfeed and good for them! I still don't see the issue with doing so in a courteous manner.

I know, just what I believe is courteous.
 
A woman completely removes her top at the Magic Kingdom and nurses while walking around Fantasyland. She is not wearing one stitch of clothing from the waist up. This is ok right?
 
A woman completely removes her top at the Magic Kingdom and nurses while walking around Fantasyland. She is not wearing one stitch of clothing from the waist up. This is ok right?
I'm sure you'll find many people who say yes.
Sigh . . .
 
I have no problem with women breastfeeding in public as long as they COVER themselves. I took my kids and their friends recently to a Ballocity Playland where one mother was breastfeeding her son with NO cover!
 

Read more carefully please. I said my question was absurd - purposely to point out that many of the comments in support of this behaviour is ideological rhetoric, not a real defence of something you actually want to be free to do. In fact, not ONE SINGLE WOMAN has agreed that they do, or would do this. The closest we've come so far is your Aunt.

You can use me as the example then because I do it. During the summer, I sunbathe topless on my deck all the time. I'm not jumping up and down waving my arms to get my neighbors' attention, but I don't hesitate to walk back and forth to the house or to the edge of the deck to call the dog in without a shirt on. Sometimes I even pick up the hose and water the plants before coming in. So I guess, technically, I'm gardening topless. I really don't care if the neighbors catch a glimpse of anything. As far as I'm concerned, being on my property is discretion enough.

I see your point, but a vegetarian eating at a steak restaurant should expect to see people eating steak. If they don't want to see that, they shouldn't be at that restaurant. I don't care if you are breastfeeding in public, it should just be done in a manner that isn't offensive and this is the debateable part. What is offensive to some is not to others. As another poster said, there is no reason to have 2 breasts hanging out in the open in public. Cover them up.

It could also be said that a person living in a society where babies and nursing mothers are present should expect to see breastfeeding. If people don't want to see that, they shouldn't go out in public.

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I was seated next to a breastfeeding mother on a Disney bus once. The only reason I even noticed was because of the way she kept nervously looking around like she was worried someone would make a scene about it. When we got off the bus, I said something to my boyfriend about what a shame it was that she should be so uncomfortable to breastfeed because society at large has decided to turn a perfectly normal process into a debate. My boyfriend said, "Is that what she was doing? I couldn't tell." In other words, even when he thought she might be breastfeeding and was sitting right across from her, he couldn't be sure that's what was going on. And yet, I'm sure there are people who would argue that a crowded Disney bus full of kids is not a discreet enough place to breastfeed. Which is why it is completely worthless to argue that breastfeeding should be done discreetly. It's too subjective and there would never be an agreement. (For the record, I would've been fine with that woman stripping completely naked to breastfeed, so long as it meant I didn't have to hear a shrieking infant all the way to the Magic Kingdom.)
 
I don't understand your purpose in sharing this information.

I agree. I also don't get how a username for an entirely different board has the ability to speak more towards that person's thoughts on a subject than her actual posts that she actually shared on this thread. Maybe you should focus more on the discussion that is being had here and less on what is going on at an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT BOARD.

As for the BF discussion, I have a problem with the militants. By that I mean militant on either side. I don't care for those (few as they may be) who are breastfeeding topless to prove a point. Just like I don't care for those who feel that no woman should breastfeed in public for any reason. The ones that watch for even a tiny flash of skin or, heaven forbid, a nipple and try to make it into some big deal.

There are plenty of people that are going to do things that I wouldn't necessarily be comfortable doing myself, but I am not going to complain or make an effort to stop those people from doing those things simply because it's not something that I would do. I'm in the middle. Live and let live.
 
You can use me as the example then because I do it. During the summer, I sunbathe topless on my deck all the time. I'm not jumping up and down waving my arms to get my neighbors' attention, but I don't hesitate to walk back and forth to the house or to the edge of the deck to call the dog in without a shirt on. Sometimes I even pick up the hose and water the plants before coming in. So I guess, technically, I'm gardening topless. I really don't care if the neighbors catch a glimpse of anything. As far as I'm concerned, being on my property is discretion enough.



It could also be said that a person living in a society where babies and nursing mothers are present should expect to see breastfeeding. If people don't want to see that, they shouldn't go out in public.

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I was seated next to a breastfeeding mother on a Disney bus once. The only reason I even noticed was because of the way she kept nervously looking around like she was worried someone would make a scene about it. When we got off the bus, I said something to my boyfriend about what a shame it was that she should be so uncomfortable to breastfeed because society at large has decided to turn a perfectly normal process into a debate. My boyfriend said, "Is that what she was doing? I couldn't tell." In other words, even when he thought she might be breastfeeding and was sitting right across from her, he couldn't be sure that's what was going on. And yet, I'm sure there are people who would argue that a crowded Disney bus full of kids is not a discreet enough place to breastfeed. Which is why it is completely worthless to argue that breastfeeding should be done discreetly. It's too subjective and there would never be an agreement. (For the record, I would've been fine with that woman stripping completely naked to breastfeed, so long as it meant I didn't have to hear a shrieking infant all the way to the Magic Kingdom.)
People don't live in a vacuum, regardless of what they may think.
 
You can use me as the example then because I do it. During the summer, I sunbathe topless on my deck all the time. I'm not jumping up and down waving my arms to get my neighbors' attention, but I don't hesitate to walk back and forth to the house or to the edge of the deck to call the dog in without a shirt on. Sometimes I even pick up the hose and water the plants before coming in. So I guess, technically, I'm gardening topless. I really don't care if the neighbors catch a glimpse of anything. As far as I'm concerned, being on my property is discretion enough. QUOTE]



In my state and many others, being naked on your property is perfectly legal, however, 99% of people don't do it because it is offensive to others. Now, sunbatheing and breastfeeding are two totally different topics(one can be considered necessary and the other not) but it is common decency to not do this. Just like I can stand out in front of anyones house in the US that has open carry laws with a loaded rifle and it is perfectly legal as long as I have a permit. There is nothing that homeowner or police can do about it. I can even take pictures of you, your family and house, but I don't do it because it is offensive even though the law says I can

In my state and many others, being naked on your property is perfectly legal, however, 99% of people don't do it because it is offensive to others. Now, sunbatheing and breastfeeding are two totally different topics(one can be considered necessary and the other not) but it is common decency to not do this. Just like I can stand out in front of anyones house in the US that has open carry laws with a loaded rifle and it is perfectly legal as long as I have a permit. There is nothing that homeowner or police can do about it. I can even take pictures of you, your family and house, but I don't do it because it is offensive even though the law says I can
 
A woman completely removes her top at the Magic Kingdom and nurses while walking around Fantasyland. She is not wearing one stitch of clothing from the waist up. This is ok right?

According to Florida and California law, yes. I've breastfed my daughter many times in Fantasyland without a cover. If it bothers anyone, they could use their neck for its intended purpose and look away.
 
In my state and many others, being naked on your property is perfectly legal, however, 99% of people don't do it because it is offensive to others. Now, sunbatheing and breastfeeding are two totally different topics(one can be considered necessary and the other not) but it is common decency to not do this. Just like I can stand out in front of anyones house in the US that has open carry laws with a loaded rifle and it is perfectly legal as long as I have a permit. There is nothing that homeowner or police can do about it. I can even take pictures of you, your family and house, but I don't do it because it is offensive even though the law says I can
If someone is going to press their eyeball up to the cracks in my privacy fence to see what I'm doing on my property, then I'd say they're the one with common decency issues.
 
According to Florida and California law, yes. I've breastfed my daughter many times in Fantasyland without a cover. If it bothers anyone, they could use their neck for its intended purpose and look away.

Were you completely topless like the poster was saying? Or were you just not using a cover? They're different.

Everyone has a right to feel uncomfortable. They don't have a right to tell the Mother to stop feeding her child there. That is why there are laws protecting NIP. I would think that a business that caters to Moms and young children would have known this.

Anyone else find the irony that the shorthand version of this is NIP? No? Just me?


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If someone is going to press their eyeball up to the cracks in my privacy fence to see what I'm doing on my property, then I'd say they're the one with common decency issues.

Ah here we go. Post that you sunbathe topless, walk around your deck/yard and even water your plants topless but don't mention that nobody can see you because of your privacy fence.
Your previous post absolutely gave the impression that you do your topless sunbathing in full view of your neighbors, otherwise there's no point to mentioning it.
 
If someone is going to press their eyeball up to the cracks in my privacy fence to see what I'm doing on my property, then I'd say they're the one with common decency issues.
Yes, then that would be trespassing. You didn't mention you were doing this from behind a privacy fence so your statement is mute at best. That's like saying a mom is breastfeeding topless in WDW. However, I didn't mention she was in her resort room with the curtains drawn and the door closed.
 
I have no problem with women breastfeeding in public as long as they COVER themselves. I took my kids and their friends recently to a Ballocity Playland where one mother was breastfeeding her son with NO cover!
If it bothers you, don't look at her. If it really bothers you, you have the right to leave. Since she is within her rights to nurse without a cover, she does not have to change anything.

A mother does not have to cover up to protect the public's sensibilities. Some mothers cover up, some don't. However, it is up to each mother what works best for their baby and themselves. As long as the mother is within the law, she does not have to worry about what anybody else thinks.

And that is exactly why the laws were put into place. To protect a nursing mother from the opinions of the public. For instance, to protect from some business owners like mentioned in the OP.
 
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Ah here we go. Post that you sunbathe topless, walk around your deck/yard and even water your plants topless but don't mention that nobody can see you because of your privacy fence.
Your previous post absolutely gave the impression that you do your topless sunbathing in full view of your neighbors, otherwise there's no point to mentioning it.
I didn't say I walked around the yard; the plants are on the upper level deck which is flanked on both sides by privacy fences which is where I do my sunbathing. If I stand up and move around then yes, someone would be able to see me from out back. If lying down, like I usually am, the neighbors could still see me if they wanted to crane their necks from their upper windows and look down onto my deck. I make reasonable effort to be discreet by using the most private area of my property (vs. the front yard, for instance), but I'm aware that if someone wanted to see me they could.

My less than attractive male neighbor parades all around his property and the common areas shirtless. It would never occur to me that he should cover up just because I don't want to see it. I can always look away. Same goes for any other common decency/discretion issues that people may be uncomfortable with, including breastfeeding. If what they're doing is legal, then it should be nobody's concern.
 
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