Land Border Opening?

yes, just look at how Delta variant is traveling with the unvaccinated population, now the whole country has to pay for it in England With longer lockdown. I hope that doesn’t happen here. People’s personal choices don’t just affect them. It affects us all.

I think we're in better position just based on the high volume of vaccinations we have now vs. the UK. We've hit 75% single 20% full of all eligible people and that second shot % is climbing by a bit over 1% a day, plus they're targeting hotspots aggresively to try and keep it at bay. Not to mention the still slow/cautious re-opening stages still going on.
 
Canada's Vaccine Tracker:

https://covid19tracker.ca/vaccinationtracker.html
Shows we have:
65.646% of the Canadian population has received at least one dose
17.620% of the Canadian population is fully vaccinated

Another month will allow us to hit the 75/20 targets.
Have you seen how slowly that 65% is moving. It took 11 days to go from just over 60% to 65%. We won't get to 75% (or if we do it will be September or October when it happens). Numbers have stopped moving any significant amount.
 

I don't know why/where people are seeing we have already hit the targets though. Is that website just not accurate?
The difference is the percentage of the entire population vaccinated and the percentage of the eligible population vaccinated. The confusion lies on the ambiguity of what is actually needed because the goal post moves often. Originally it was of the eligible population and now it seems to be of the entire population.
 
Have you seen how slowly that 65% is moving. It took 11 days to go from just over 60% to 65%. We won't get to 75% (or if we do it will be September or October when it happens). Numbers have stopped moving any significant amount.
our health unit sent out an urgent message to the community to sign up and get an appointment for their first jab Pronto a few weeks before we hit the timing window for 2nd shots to be given. The reason being we've had to pivot to focusing more on those needing the 2nd jab within the time-frame originally set out and now that we've been declared a delta hot spot we've been moved to the accelerated time-frame meaning even fewer doses are available for first shots.

I'm not sure if there would be any way to correlate the data to compare the percentages or not BUT if other areas in the country are following the same protocol that our health unit is it makes sense to me the rise in 1st doses appears to be slowing down while the percentage of fully vaccinated is quickly increasing 🤷‍♀️
 
our health unit sent out an urgent message to the community to sign up and get an appointment for their first jab Pronto a few weeks before we hit the timing window for 2nd shots to be given. The reason being we've had to pivot to focusing more on those needing the 2nd jab within the time-frame originally set out and now that we've been declared a delta hot spot we've been moved to the accelerated time-frame meaning even fewer doses are available for first shots.

I'm not sure if there would be any way to correlate the data to compare the percentages or not BUT if other areas in the country are following the same protocol that our health unit is it makes sense to me the rise in 1st doses appears to be slowing down while the percentage of fully vaccinated is quickly increasing 🤷‍♀️
I'd agree but they haven't stopped booking 1st doses. I know not everyone has access to the provincial systems but the majority do and the appointments go to either 1st or 2nd. There would be no reason to not increase the number of people with partial protection because people with no are even more at risk than those partially protected.
 
Have you seen how slowly that 65% is moving. It took 11 days to go from just over 60% to 65%. We won't get to 75% (or if we do it will be September or October when it happens). Numbers have stopped moving any significant amount.
We are at the 75/20 number already. They only count eligible people.
 
I'd agree but they haven't stopped booking 1st doses. I know not everyone has access to the provincial systems but the majority do and the appointments go to either 1st or 2nd. There would be no reason to not increase the number of people with partial protection because people with no are even more at risk than those partially protected.
again I can only accurately comment on my health unit's activity which is why I mentioned that and added the funky lil shrug but we can't book first shots of we're looking for our 2nd AND my invite came today with a wonky link that only gives me the ability to choose a 1st shot but it won't let me book one of the few slots visible to me. Hubby's link works properly however, and it shows a bunch more times at the same places on the same day. So at least in my area we don't have a many spots allocated for each dosage. Those of us in hotspots do need to be fully vaccinated BTW, the Delta VOC is a real kicker and a single dose only provides about 30% protection, that's what's happening in Waterloo ☹

side note there are a LOT of people in the same situation with the wrong link who are rightfully upset. I already have an appointment booked on Monday at a Rexall but was curious about how many spots are available.
 
That article is from over a month ago. This one from yesterday says total population.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.ctvnews.ca/national/coronavirus/2021/6/18/1_5476103.html

I don't think I've ever heard/seen a quote from anyone in official capacity (be it Trudea, Tam, Blair etc.) state it definitively. The article I posted above from this past Tuesday after Tam's last press conference says "eligible" over and over. The one you posted says "total".

Until a gov't official says for certain one way or the other it's anyone's guess. I can't find a definitive quote from anyone.

Hopefully there will be clarity on Monday when they announce more details.
 
I don't think I've ever heard/seen a quote from anyone in official capacity (be it Trudea, Tam, Blair etc.) state it definitively. The article I posted above from this past Tuesday after Tam's last press conference says "eligible" over and over. The one you posted says "total".

Until a gov't official says for certain one way or the other it's anyone's guess. I can't find a definitive quote from anyone.

Hopefully there will be clarity on Monday when they announce more details.
Hopefully, I watched Trudeau's spiel on Friday and it definitely didn't sound like eligible because by Friday we were pretty much there but they way he spoke made it sound like we were no where close. He said that he doesn't want to open because vaccinated people can still spread it to the unvaccinated and until we had more numbers vaccinated he wasn't ready to loosen the border restrictions significantly.
 














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