Land Border Opening?

[ilovetotravel1977]

Has anyone seen the link to the 11:15am press conference? Usually CBC.ca has it front and centre, but I can't seem to locate it.

Edit to add: found it on CTV
https://www.ctvnews.ca/video?playlistId=1.4911617

 

[TommyJK]

Restrictions at U.S. border to remain in place until end of July, Blair says | CTV News

While disappointing I'm not surprised. With the Delta picking up in a new hot spots and how cautious they've been this doesn't come as a shock unfortunately.

 

[ilovetotravel1977]

I am not surprise it is closed for another month. We are not ready on the vaccine certificate front. This just shows they are winging it as usual and they are not ready.

 

[Pumpkin1172]

Well, it's not shocking. I mean we all knew they wouldn't just whip open the boarder with no restrictions or guildelines.

So my question back to them is " What is the plan? What are the bench marks your looking at? What targets are you aiming for? WHAT IS THE FREAKING PLAN!!!!!!

Why can't our leaders actually show what their plans are? It's beyond frustrating already.

 

[ilovetotravel1977]

@Pumpkin1172 hopefully that will come today/Monday

 

[petunia]

I missed the update, with the US border closed another month does this void the plan for no 14 day quarantine for fully vaccinated that was to begin next month for Canadians?

 

[ilovetotravel1977]

Press conference hasnt started yet.

 

[Mikey15]

I missed the update, with the US border closed another month does this void the plan for no 14 day quarantine for fully vaccinated that was to begin next month for Canadians?

You haven’t missed anything, this is all super new.

The Minister has announced that they’ll be announcing the quarantine adjustments/changes on Monday, June 21. That’s independent of whether the US/Canada land border is open to non-essential travel.

I am eating crow a little on border not opening by July 4th. There is still significance to quarantine changes for fully-vaccinated though since air travel continues, and dual-nationals can still cross as well.

 

[petunia]

Thanks, thought there was an announcement at 11

Really trying to plan for WDW in August, trying to decide if it is better to drive over and fly from Buffalo or just fly from here, or if there will be no difference at all...

 

[podgirl]

Thanks, thought there was an announcement at 11

Really trying to plan for WDW in August, trying to decide if it is better to drive over and fly from Buffalo or just fly from here, or if there will be no difference at all...

I'm in the same boat. I took a chance and bought cheap flights out of Detroit for mid-August. I really hope I don't have to re-book...

 

[Madame]

I know. I’ll often ask my husband’ “Are you worried?” when I’m getting anxious about something. He always replies, “Would it help?” (Quote lifted from Bridge of Spies movie). He’s right. Worry doesn’t change the outcome and it ruins my life in the meantime. One step at a time.

My DH always says “It’s your heart attack…”. And I hate it that he’s always right

 

[mamaofsix]

Thanks, thought there was an announcement at 11

Really trying to plan for WDW in August, trying to decide if it is better to drive over and fly from Buffalo or just fly from here, or if there will be no difference at all...

Well, you likely don't have a choice but to fly from Canada. Pretty risky to think the land border will be open for you to drive across by August.

 

[Pumpkin1172]

I am eating crow a little on border not opening by July 4th. There is still significance to quarantine changes for fully-vaccinated though since air travel continues, and dual-nationals can still cross as well.

I don'think that at all!!!

I had a gut feeling that wasn't going to happen. Given that they give not reasoning as to what their benchamrks are for travelling. They don't even want Canadians travelling for non-essential reasons, why would they just whip open the boarder for American travellers to come into Canada? But at some point, they will need to open the boarder. Hopefully the reason to their holdout if because they want more Canadian fully immunized.

I'm just tired of the flip flopping of wording and no benchmarks or points what they are looking at for their " plan" . At this point, it seems like there really isn't a plan with all the flip flop rhetoric that has been flowing lately.

 

[ellbell]

Thanks, thought there was an announcement at 11

Really trying to plan for WDW in August, trying to decide if it is better to drive over and fly from Buffalo or just fly from here, or if there will be no difference at all...

I played it safe and booked flights out of Canada to go down but I'll be returning to buffalo

 

[Sue M]

Thanks, thought there was an announcement at 11

Really trying to plan for WDW in August, trying to decide if it is better to drive over and fly from Buffalo or just fly from here, or if there will be no difference at all...

For that reason I have air booked for Aug. I feel it’s the safer plan. But if things change with border I can change flights

 

[Jrb1979]

I don'think that at all!!!

I had a gut feeling that wasn't going to happen. Given that they give not reasoning as to what their benchamrks are for travelling. They don't even want Canadians travelling for non-essential reasons, why would they just whip open the boarder for American travellers to come into Canada? But at some point, they will need to open the boarder. Hopefully the reason to their holdout if because they want more Canadian fully immunized.

I'm just tired of the flip flopping of wording and no benchmarks or points what they are looking at for their " plan" . At this point, it seems like there really isn't a plan with all the flip flop rhetoric that has been flowing lately.

I understand what you are saying. I have this feeling the delay for reopening of the border has more to do with the US. Canada wants a vaccine passport in place and the US want no part of that. I think it's a big sticking point.

 

[hdrolfe]

There is some information here about what will lead to looser restrictions, in kind of general terms, but also speaking to the issues around AZ and US not recognizing it.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-astrazeneca-travellers-1.6071320

 

[Blue Belle Ballerina]

Thanks, thought there was an announcement at 11

Really trying to plan for WDW in August, trying to decide if it is better to drive over and fly from Buffalo or just fly from here, or if there will be no difference at all...

We're planning for our August trip as well....had planned on driving across the border and flying from the US but now I am dual planning for a Canadian departure as well. Getting stressed, but will do whatever it takes to go!

 

[pigletto]

There is some information here about what will lead to looser restrictions, in kind of general terms, but also speaking to the issues around AZ and US not recognizing it.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-astrazeneca-travellers-1.6071320

This was reassuring . Particularly this ..

"We will definitely make sure that people who got one or two AstraZeneca doses will not be disadvantaged when they want to travel,"


"We hope to be able to resolve those issues in the coming weeks in time for bringing in loosened restrictions around travel. The U.S. hasn't said yet what their criteria will be. We're working with them to get on the same page."

It makes me think we aren’t more than a month away from being able to travel more freely by using the words “coming weeks” . And obviously I’m very relieved that Astra Zeneca won’t hold us back in this process .

 

[accm]

I read an article that said Trudeau said we wouldn’t be opening the border until we reached 75% with first shot, and 20% fully vaccinated. But my question is, is that percentage of the eligible population? Or are we including everyone?
And what happens if we just don’t reach that? They’re just going to keep the border closed indefinitely? (I just went back and reread it, and it’s of the total population - which goes back to my question of, what if we don’t get to 75%? I looked at a graph for Ontario, and we’re plateauing on numbers of first shot. Not sure about other provinces)
I’ve been understanding of the tough decisions our leaders have had to make, even when I didn’t particularly agree with them. But I feel like we’re just moving farther and farther away from the science and being restrictive for the sake of being restrictive

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