Kudos to the Little Blonde Girl

[Mrs. Pookie]

Well said WDSearcher!

 

[Disney Mommy 3]

lacrosse lady 72~ Just wanted to say I have your avatar as my screen saver!! Isn't it great!!! julie andrews is the best!!!

 

[dzorn]

You are absolutely right. No one looking at my daughter would realise that she has muscular and balance problems. I just thought it was a bit much to say that a pregnant woman who couldn't stand for long periods should not be getting on a crowded bus. I find that quite offensive, although I won't go into all the reasons why here because it will cause even more of an argument, and I really don't want to argue with anybody!

So each to their own...stay seated if you want, but I might be the one giving you grumpy looks if there are other people around who need to sit down and you don't!

How do you know they do not have physical problems that require them to sit down? How do you know they did not wait for another bus for that specific reason? Why give anyone dirty looks when you do not know their circumstances or problems just as they do not know yours?

Denise in MI

 

[goofygal71]

I have fibromyalgia and have a tough time standing on a moving bus.

This women with five kids got on the bus one time. I was sitting, my boys were sharing a seat and my DH was standing. This woman asked me to let her son have my seat, I told her that I couldn't do that. She said "really?" in a smart aleck tone. My DH looked right at her and told her that I could not physically do that. Boy she backed off then. This happened in the morning time.

It is very true that you cannot tell someone's condition by looking at them. I look like a fit 30-year old woman, and I get around just fine. But just can't tolerate the motion of the bus when I stand up, I lose my balance easily. I often wait for the next bus to get a seat.

 

[sbell111]

Was it ever stated that just MEN should give up their seat? I think most people expect able-bodied people to offer their seats, not just men. ...

Ummm, it is the premise of this very thread. Take a read of the first post:

... AND THERE ARE GUYS WHO JUST SIT THERE!!! Come on, be a gentleman and stand up for Christ's sake. I feel like it really says a lot about a guy, just like a handshake would when they do or don't give up there seat. Barring a serious injury, if you are between the ages of 13 and oh... 50, and you're a dude- come on.
...
That was really the end of the story, I couldn't believe these two guys were going to let their daughter/sister just stand while they sat. I was disgusted. Kudos to her, honestly- I wish there were more people like her. ...

 

[dzorn]

I am from the UK and have always considered the Americans to be very polite.

I agree with equality and I feel the old fashioned attitude of giving up a seat for a woman are fading. However what upsets me is when a very young child (say under 8) is sat in their own seat whilst grown ups are standing. The child could sit on the adults lap or stand next to them and the adult hold onto them. I have a 7 year old daughter and I would not expect her to sit down whilst a grown up stands. It is what I had to do as a child as well and I feel adults should be treated by respect by Juniors.

Of course there are times when this doesn't apply, I cannot alwys see or know if the child has a difficulty but there are times when the child is fit and healthy and the parent needs to have the child move.

DD has always sat on my lap in the past, but now that I have hip problems (which you would not know by looking at me) it would be painful to me to have her on my lap. You just do not know by looking at someone what issues they may have.

Also if someone had a bag in a seat I would give them the option of moving it before I sat on it. Hope nothing was breakable.

Denise in MI

 

[mom2boys77]

We all paid a lot of money to be at Disney. We all waited our turn to get on the bus so why should anyone have to give up their seat?? If you get on the bus and see that you'll have to stand, you can always wait for the next bus. I would never expect someone to give up their seat for me. Why does a woman, pregnant woman, old person, etc deserve a seat more than anyone else? They were able to just walk around the park for hours but all of a sudden they need to have a seat for the 10-15 minutes? I have given up my seat before for a younger child because I think it's dangerous for little kids to be standing but I cannot stand when people EXPECT that I should give up my seat.

 

[Chad&Janet]

I always try to let people take my seat, but boy are the olden people really stubborn . I suggest they take mine, but they look at me as if I just committed a crime (did I do something wrong? I thought it was a kind gesture, It's not like I think they're too weak or incapable of standing). Both men and women. I'll definitely still ask, but most of the time I just get the evil eye

The only people who take me up on the offer and treat me decently are the families with kids :/

Either way, you'll still be given dirty looks. If you don't get out of your seat, you'll be given the evil eye by the ones who do believe you should. Or if you do offer your seat, you'll somehow offend them as they don't want to be given any handouts.

I say it should be a first come-first serve, if you want to sit.. get there ahead of time or wait for the next bus.

I agree 100%. What a logical, non-emotional post that distills everything down. I definitely don't get on a bus just looking (testing) for someone to act in a way I would deem inappropriate. You're there to have fun; don't let a petty little thing like a bus seat get in the way of that.

 

[girlsx4]

There were many times when DH and I got on a bus with all 4 of our girls, DH holding our youngest DD and a stroller and me trying to hold onto the rest of my girls so they wouldn't go flying. A couple times someone offered DH a seat since he was holding our DD, but for the most part we stood when we had too. And if we were the first ones on the bus I didn't make my girls move or stand for others either. Sometimes you get to sit and sometimes you have to stand. That's the way it goes..........

 

[BYC]

I gotta tell you...I am just amazed by the responses I am reading here. Of course no one has a "right" to someone else's seat. Of course we all spend lots of money. Of course we are all tired. But, if I saw someone standing that looked like they could use a seat more than me, I would offer it. If they are insulted by the offer, I still did the right thing. If my sons or daughter saw someone needing a seat...and mostly I mean an elderly person.... they would offer theirs to them. I am proud of that. It is just the right thing to do. Period.

 

[Mrs. Pookie]

Also if someone had a bag in a seat I would give them the option of moving it before I sat on it. Hope nothing was breakable.

Denise in MI

LOL!!

 

[sbell111]

... Sometimes you get to sit and sometimes you have to stand. That's the way it goes..........

If more people would incorporate this general philosophy into their lives, they'd be a bunch happier.

 

[declansdad]

Three things to do at WDW to stop this nonsense:

1.) If you need to be seated on the bus, wait for the next bus if it appears the one there is full to standing. My family has done that at WDW before.

2.) If you absolutely have to have a seat while traveling between the parks, and don't want to wait for the next bus, rent a car for your vacation.

3.) Don't judge people - just because someone looks fit, does not mean they are fit. I don't show off the large chunk of flesh missing from the back of my leg. If it is aching at the end of the day, and there is a long line at the stop, we wait for the next bus so I can have a seat.

I agree about women wanting to be treated as equals, not as invalids who must have a seat so the macho man can feel better about himself. The 'elderly' don't want to be thought of as invalids either - my 69 year old mother would kick anyone's butt off the bus if someone pulled the 'old lady, take my seat' thing on her!

There have been numerous threads on here about this subject - one that appalled me the most had a woman bragging how she bossed a teenager out of his seat, as he was just sitting there playing his video game. What if this kid was autistic, or otherwise mentally or physically disabled, and needed that seat?

 

[bobbiwoz]

I don't walk or stand as well as some. I've been offered seats, and I have offered my seat to others. I have never been insulted or have been made to feel that I have insulted someone. Mostly I find the people who ride Disney buses are a well rounded bunch of folks and get along fine and many are gracious. I would be proud of my DSs if they offered their seats. I don't have any DDs.

Bobbi

 

[boxer]

There were many times when DH and I got on a bus with all 4 of our girls, DH holding our youngest DD and a stroller and me trying to hold onto the rest of my girls so they wouldn't go flying. A couple times someone offered DH a seat since he was holding our DD, but for the most part we stood when we had too. And if we were the first ones on the bus I didn't make my girls move or stand for others either. Sometimes you get to sit and sometimes you have to stand. That's the way it goes..........

That might be one of the best replies I've read on here..........its FREE transportation people---there are no guarantees of seats or comfort. Wait for the next bus if it's crowded--it's not a hard decision.

 

[WDSearcher]

If more people would incorporate this general philosophy into their lives, they'd be a bunch happier.

 

[~Kik-Kik~]

I gotta tell you...I am just amazed by the responses I am reading here. Of course no one has a "right" to someone else's seat. Of course we all spend lots of money. Of course we are all tired. But, if I saw someone standing that looked like they could use a seat more than me, I would offer it. If they are insulted by the offer, I still did the right thing. If my sons or daughter saw someone needing a seat...and mostly I mean an elderly person.... they would offer theirs to them. I am proud of that. It is just the right thing to do. Period.

That's not really the point of this thread. The point is about men (ages 13-50) sitting and women, children, parents, parents holding children, elderly and everyone in between standing.

I'm sure that if I saw someone struggling to stand they would get a seat, but that's not the point of this thread. If this was about everyone being kinder and offering seats then I'm sure we would all have a diffrent response. The OP post was very sexist. If she wants all men to offrer her seats then I EXPECT her to treat her husband like this when he comes home.

Have dinner ready. Prepare yourself. Touch up your makeup, put a ribbon in your hair and be fresh looking. He has just been with a lot of work-weary people. Be a little gay and a little more interesting. Clear away the clutter -- run a dust cloth over the tables.

Prepare the children: Take a few minutes to wash the children's hands and faces, comb their hair, and if necessary change their clothes. They are God's creatures and he would like to see them playing the part.

Minimize all noise…eliminate the noise of the washer, dryer, dishwasher or vacuum. Try to encourage the children to be quiet.

Some Don'ts: Don't greet him with problems or complaints. Don't complain if he is late for dinner. Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low, soft, soothing and pleasant voice.

Listen to him: You may have dozens of things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first. Make the evening his. Never complain if he does not take you out to dinner or other pleasant entertainments.

What I posted above is not diffrent at all than the OP. If you think all men should give up their seats then you think women should keep their mouths shut and worship their husbands.

Women fought hard for equality, and that's a wonderful thing. Offering a seat is a polite gesture; no matter your age, race, sex or if you have kids. When you EXPECT and give dirty looks (which some posters have said they do) when they dont get a seat, that is wrong. And honestly, if you have the GAUL to give me a dirty look I will confront you about it.

 

[1hero2princesses]

Wow. I can see why this is such a hot button. I am honestly very glad I didn't encounter some of you on the bus! Disney packs the busses to full in my opinion. I believe this is a safety issue and if you are healthy and can stand and an elderly person, small child or someone holding a baby is standing you should get up. Period. This is not just walking along, it is a swaying bus, sometimes stopping fast and making quick turns. Very small children or older people can easily lose their balance in these situations. Those polls are big and are hard for tiny hands to hold.
We had three small kids (turned 5 that week, 3 and 1). My husband stood for all but maybe 2 rides on less empty busses. About 90% of the busses were standing room only.
1)We did not rent a car because we had not been before and did not know it would be like that.
2)You cannot always tell how full the bus is when you are rushing on with people pushing behind you. You are folding the stroller, grabbing the bags, watching the kids, helping them on. Seriously there were times I was surprised as I got on either how empty or how full it was.
3) We did wait for busses a few times when they looked to full. It was tough with the kids but we did. Sometimes the wait was quite awhile

There were a few times we got on and didn't realize it was full and people did offer me and the kids seats. They were very nice.

Only once did we have a problem. We got on a bus one night about 9pm at MK (we left the park a little after 8 but after the walk and waiting in line for the bus it was late) and realized there were no seats. We turned around to get off and about 10 people had filed in behind us, I turned around to my husband to say what do we do there are no seats and the doors shut and off we are going. I am holding a 1 year old a backpack , the 3 year old is crying and clinging to my leg, the 5 year old is holding onto his dad and the rail and DH is holding the stroller. I am thinking we can't do this someone is gonna fall. My husband says sit with the baby on the floor your going to fall. That was the one and only time I was thinking seriously we are trapped here and people are just going to watch us and don't care - when a woman hits her boyfriend/husband and says get up so she can sit with the babies. My 5 year old did stand and he had a lot of trouble holding the poll and keeping his balance but my husband just braced him and held the stroller.
I am healthy and would gladly stand for a man, woman or child who needed the seat to be safe. I don't care how long I had been in the parks or how much money I spent on vacation. I would hate to see someone fall over and be hurt because I wanted to have a comfy seat.

 

[~Kik-Kik~]

Wow. I can see why this is such a hot button. I am honestly very glad I didn't encounter some of you on the bus! Disney packs the busses to full in my opinion. I believe this is a safety issue and if you are healthy and can stand and an elderly person, small child or someone holding a baby is standing you should get up. Period. This is not just walking along, it is a swaying bus, sometimes stopping fast and making quick turns. Very small children or older people can easily lose their balance in these situations. Those polls are big and are hard for tiny hands to hold.
We had three small kids (turned 5 that week, 3 and 1). My husband stood for all but maybe 2 rides on less empty busses. About 90% of the busses were standing room only.
1)We did not rent a car because we had not been before and did not know it would be like that.
2)You cannot always tell how full the bus is when you are rushing on with people pushing behind you. You are folding the stroller, grabbing the bags, watching the kids, helping them on. Seriously there were times I was surprised as I got on either how empty or how full it was.
3) We did wait for busses a few times when they looked to full. It was tough with the kids but we did. Sometimes the wait was quite awhile

There were a few times we got on and didn't realize it was full and people did offer me and the kids seats. They were very nice.

Only once did we have a problem. We got on a bus one night about 9pm at MK (we left the park a little after 8 but after the walk and waiting in line for the bus it was late) and realized there were no seats. We turned around to get off and about 10 people had filed in behind us, I turned around to my husband to say what do we do there are no seats and the doors shut and off we are going. I am holding a 1 year old a backpack , the 3 year old is crying and clinging to my leg, the 5 year old is holding onto his dad and the rail and DH is holding the stroller. I am thinking we can't do this someone is gonna fall. My husband says sit with the baby on the floor your going to fall. That was the one and only time I was thinking seriously we are trapped here and people are just going to watch us and don't care - when a woman hits her boyfriend/husband and says get up so she can sit with the babies. My 5 year old did stand and he had a lot of trouble holding the poll and keeping his balance but my husband just braced him and held the stroller.
I am healthy and would gladly stand for a man, woman or child who needed the seat to be safe. I don't care how long I had been in the parks or how much money I spent on vacation. I would hate to see someone fall over and be hurt because I wanted to have a comfy seat.

Again, that's not the point of this topic. It is SPECIFICALLY about men and men alone giving up their seats. Your talking about people in general being more thoughtful (which is what this topic should be about).

Tell me, would you care if a man or women had given you a seat? No, you just wanted to sit for safety issues. If I had seen you sit on the floor I would have given you my seat, and I'm sure other would have helped you too (I would hope). And it sounds like your husband needed a seat too, lol.

At the end of the day you shouldn't judge others if they sit or not. No one can see your health problems, no one can see the day you had and no one an read minds. Men are not superhuman and women are not weak helpless beings. If you need a squat down in line and wait for the next monorail and make sure you get your seat. Dont expect others to let you take their seat.

 

[Jenvenza]

I was one of the standing moms holding a sleeping 13 month old two weeks ago - with a guy sitting right in front of me. But did he get up?? Nope. I dont care if this is a hot button - it is just rude and I dont get it at all.