Kudos to the Little Blonde Girl

[declansdad]

I was one of the standing moms holding a sleeping 13 month old two weeks ago - with a guy sitting right in front of me. But did he get up?? Nope. I dont care if this is a hot button - it is just rude and I dont get it at all.

Perhaps he wasn't able to stand up either. You can't judge him simply because he was a man and he didn't offer his seat. As many others have posted, if you need a seat, wait for the next bus.

 

[marivaid]

I was one of the standing moms holding a sleeping 13 month old two weeks ago - with a guy sitting right in front of me. But did he get up?? Nope. I dont care if this is a hot button - it is just rude and I dont get it at all.

I would have given you my seat. My soon-to-be 60 year old mom would have, too. Because that's what we were taught to do.

But I also understand why some people choose not to.

Here's the thing... The "rude guy" didn't force you to go to Disney with a 13 month old. He didn't force you to wait until your little one was out to go back to your resort. And he didn't force you to go on a crowded bus. Those are decisions that you made on your own free will - and yet you expect a complete stranger to accommodate you.

 

[maxiesmom]

IHere's the thing... The "rude guy" didn't force you to go to Disney with a 13 month old. He didn't force you to wait until your little one was out to go back to your resort. And he didn't force you to go on a crowded bus. Those are decisions that you made on your own free will - and yet you expect a complete stranger to accommodate you.

 

[kadesha]

I am a woman with small children and I am not offended when people offer me a seat. I'll glady accept, especially if my kids are sleeping. However, I will also offer my seat up if someone who looks like they need the seat more than I do comes along. I think it's crazy that people get so insulted if someone offers them a seat! Geez!

 

[threegoofys]

I'd rather be at Disney standing on a crowded bus than at home sitting!!

 

[missesdisney]

I only got through 3 pages but want to add 2 cents of my own.

First though - we always have a car in WDW because we pretty much hate them - too much waiting around for them, don't like being stuck on property entirely etc. We do use them occassionally for one reason or another.

No one can judge abilities by looks so I would not judge anyone sitting personally nor would I expect anyone to get up for me on a crowded bus.

That said, the few times I've used the busses I have waited excessively for them - 20 minutes or more at the end of the day and they were always crowded. I could not have logically waited for another one not knowing when and if it would come. Depending on the time of year the number of busses and crowds on them seem to vary quite a bit.

The average Disney visitor (unlike us here on the dis) has no idea how long the bus will be, how busy , how long it takes to get to the reservation they are now late for, etc. so you just don't know why they are on a crowded bus.

I traveled by air for most of my pregnancy with DS7 - nearly every week up to 32 weeks when they made me stop. Let me tell you how rude people can be - I never asked for help nor did I expect it. I chose to be pregnant in a traveling job. I would get plowed over by mostly businessmen to get on the plane (I clearly did not move as fast towards then end). I would have these same businessmen stomping their feet while I took a moment to lift my bags overhead and the absolute worst.....in Atlanta on a weekly basis I would get the bus to the Hertz rental location and would routinely stand on this bus for 15 - 20 minutes while the businessmen had their briefcases on the seats. I did not expect anyone to give up a seat for me but I certainly would think that a person, let alone a visibly pregnant woman (in the days before those maternity looking tops were fashionable so you could tell I was quite pregnant) would take precedence for a seat over a briefcase. Not to trash the businessmen - there are plenty of polite ones out there, but this was my personal experience.

I have found many of those Disney busses to throw you around pretty good so I would give my 7year old son a seat first and stand myself if needed. I can hang on better standing.

I do agree that there are people that someone should offer a seat to if available and reasonable (someone like me who can stand) and I always do that no matter where I am - on a Philly bus or a Disney bus. I just find it to be good manners. But I'm not judging anyone based on looks if they don't.

 

[WDSearcher]

I was one of the standing moms holding a sleeping 13 month old two weeks ago - with a guy sitting right in front of me. But did he get up?? Nope. I dont care if this is a hot button - it is just rude and I dont get it at all.

Did you ask? Maybe he was tired and it didn't "click". Maybe he had a sore ankle or a back problem. Maybe he just didn't think. But did you ask to sit?

 

[stacyp9]

Wow. I can see why this is such a hot button. I am honestly very glad I didn't encounter some of you on the bus! Disney packs the busses to full in my opinion. I believe this is a safety issue and if you are healthy and can stand and an elderly person, small child or someone holding a baby is standing you should get up. Period. This is not just walking along, it is a swaying bus, sometimes stopping fast and making quick turns. Very small children or older people can easily lose their balance in these situations. Those polls are big and are hard for tiny hands to hold.
We had three small kids (turned 5 that week, 3 and 1). My husband stood for all but maybe 2 rides on less empty busses. About 90% of the busses were standing room only.
1)We did not rent a car because we had not been before and did not know it would be like that.
2)You cannot always tell how full the bus is when you are rushing on with people pushing behind you. You are folding the stroller, grabbing the bags, watching the kids, helping them on. Seriously there were times I was surprised as I got on either how empty or how full it was.
3) We did wait for busses a few times when they looked to full. It was tough with the kids but we did. Sometimes the wait was quite awhile

There were a few times we got on and didn't realize it was full and people did offer me and the kids seats. They were very nice.

Only once did we have a problem. We got on a bus one night about 9pm at MK (we left the park a little after 8 but after the walk and waiting in line for the bus it was late) and realized there were no seats. We turned around to get off and about 10 people had filed in behind us, I turned around to my husband to say what do we do there are no seats and the doors shut and off we are going. I am holding a 1 year old a backpack , the 3 year old is crying and clinging to my leg, the 5 year old is holding onto his dad and the rail and DH is holding the stroller. I am thinking we can't do this someone is gonna fall. My husband says sit with the baby on the floor your going to fall. That was the one and only time I was thinking seriously we are trapped here and people are just going to watch us and don't care - when a woman hits her boyfriend/husband and says get up so she can sit with the babies. My 5 year old did stand and he had a lot of trouble holding the poll and keeping his balance but my husband just braced him and held the stroller.
I am healthy and would gladly stand for a man, woman or child who needed the seat to be safe. I don't care how long I had been in the parks or how much money I spent on vacation. I would hate to see someone fall over and be hurt because I wanted to have a comfy seat.

Yep, little kids have no business standing on moving buses. It is not safe. Frankly, I'm surprised Disney allows it.

 

[SLK1]

SOOOO glad I'm not married to some of you "men" on these boards! Next time, ask yourself if it was your wife, mother, or daughter, would you offer them a seat? If yes, get up. If not, fine, stay seated. In 60 years, or however long it takes you to be "old", Lord help you stand on the bus while a young man or woman sits. What comes around goes around!

 

[WDSearcher]

SOOOO glad I'm not married to some of you "men" on these boards! Next time, ask yourself if it was your wife, mother, or daughter, would you offer them a seat? If yes, get up. If not, fine, stay seated. In 60 years, or however long it takes you to be "old", Lord help you stand on the bus while a young man or woman sits. What comes around goes around!

As far as I'm concerned, guys ... feel free to sit. If I need your seat, I'll ask for it!

 

[JulyGirl]

My DH was raised to offer his seat to ladies, the elderly, or people who may need assistance. If he offers his seat to you, please don't take offense. For his family, it is just a respectful thing to do. He is by no means insulting you or finding you "weak". I am just shocked that folks would get mad about someone trying to show respect.

 

[~Kik-Kik~]

SOOOO glad I'm not married to some of you "men" on these boards! Next time, ask yourself if it was your wife, mother, or daughter, would you offer them a seat? If yes, get up. If not, fine, stay seated. In 60 years, or however long it takes you to be "old", Lord help you stand on the bus while a young man or woman sits. What comes around goes around!

I would love to be maried to you considering when your husband comes home you do all this.

Have dinner ready. Prepare yourself. Touch up your makeup, put a ribbon in your hair and be fresh looking. He has just been with a lot of work-weary people. Be a little gay and a little more interesting. Clear away the clutter -- run a dust cloth over the tables.

Prepare the children: Take a few minutes to wash the children's hands and faces, comb their hair, and if necessary change their clothes. They are God's creatures and he would like to see them playing the part.

Minimize all noise…eliminate the noise of the washer, dryer, dishwasher or vacuum. Try to encourage the children to be quiet.

Some Don'ts: Don't greet him with problems or complaints. Don't complain if he is late for dinner. Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low, soft, soothing and pleasant voice.

Listen to him: You may have dozens of things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first. Make the evening his. Never complain if he does not take you out to dinner or other pleasant entertainments.

Isn't living in the 50's great!!! And if you dont treat your husband like this you have no business criticizing men about sitting down. If you work, who cares, you don't care if the man is in worse shape that the woman but you cant see it. If you have 4 kids and you dont always have time to put on a big dinner every night who cares, you stil expect a man to give up his seat even though he is the one holding all the bags and pushing the stroller while the wife sits with the sleeping baby. If you want to live in the 50's go ahead, but dont have double standards.

If you were to ask for my seat I would probably give it to you, but on Saturday I wouldnt have, lol. I had chafing, lugging around 20lbs, had 5 blisters, a bruised heel and was awake for 18 hours. I needed that seat, lol. If it was at the start of the day I would have gladly let you take my place. Like a man told me on the way to the monirail as I was trying to get to the other side of the walk way as he was pushing a stroller "all you have to do is ask".

 

[missj1975]

I just got back from a week long trip to Disney and we rode the buses almost everyday. The buses were always crowded but luckily we never had to stand. The only time it looked like we would have to stand, we waited for the next bus.

The buses were always crowded with people standing. I never once thought of analyzing people and deciding if they were more worthy of my seat then me. My opinion if someone wants a seat then wait for a seat, otherwise deal with standing.

 

[honeymo78]

I personally don't equate offering me, an able bodied female, a seat as respect - to me its demeaning. I won't take out my displeasure on them, I'll politely decline, pointing out that I'm just as capable of standing as they are.

I'm sure the men that offer a seat to any/all females mean well, but in my mind, showing that you respect me, doesn't mean showing that you are stronger, better able to bear pain/discomfort. Because honestly, that's where letting women sit comes from - respecting a woman meant treating/recognizing her for what she was, something to be protected - the weaker sex.

 

[~Kik-Kik~]

I personally don't equate offering me, an able bodied female, a seat as respect - to me its demeaning. I won't take out my displeasure on them, I'll politely decline, pointing out that I'm just as capable of standing as they are.

I'm sure the men that offer a seat to any/all females mean well, but in my mind, showing that you respect me, doesn't mean showing that you are stronger, better able to bear pain/discomfort. Because honestly, that's where letting women sit comes from - respecting a woman meant treating/recognizing her for what she was, something to be protected - the weaker sex.

Thank God for women like you who see that men are not always strong and women are not always weak. A woman is perfectly able to offer her seat too, and most people here fail to see that.

If I saw you on the monorail I would offer you a seat just because you see that.

 

[DisneyCampers]

I was one of the standing moms holding a sleeping 13 month old two weeks ago - with a guy sitting right in front of me. But did he get up?? Nope. I dont care if this is a hot button - it is just rude and I dont get it at all.

I am sorry but you got on a crowded bus knowing you had a sleeping child and might have to stand. It seems to me that you expected someone to give up their seat for you, I personally could never do this and yes I have been to WDW many times with a sleeping child and if the bus was crowded I waited on the next, I didn't get on with the intention someone was going to hop up for me.
Besides the man himself may not have been able to stand.
I am pregnant now and don't expect anyone to give me their seat, I mean I am the one that got on a crowded bus.
I have also turned down many seat from men and teenagers b/c there is was no reason for me to have to sit so why take someones seat that got on before me and waited longer?
I am a woman but I am not weak.
I do not make my DH get up he will though for some, but assure you make all the comments you want and give me as many dirty looks as you got that is the last way to get mine or my family's seat and you will just get the comments and the looks right back.

 

[declansdad]

SOOOO glad I'm not married to some of you "men" on these boards! Next time, ask yourself if it was your wife, mother, or daughter, would you offer them a seat? If yes, get up. If not, fine, stay seated. In 60 years, or however long it takes you to be "old", Lord help you stand on the bus while a young man or woman sits. What comes around goes around!

You are making assumptions that men on this thread do not offer their seat to those that need it. That is not what this thread is about.

 

[~Kik-Kik~]

SOOOO glad I'm not married to some of you "men" on these boards! Next time, ask yourself if it was your wife, mother, or daughter, would you offer them a seat? If yes, get up. If not, fine, stay seated. In 60 years, or however long it takes you to be "old", Lord help you stand on the bus while a young man or woman sits. What comes around goes around!

And one more thing, the OP says that if your 14 year old son dosnt give his seat to any woman/girl/parent/child/parent with child/old/young he is automatically rude. I HIGHLY doubt that.

THAT is what this topic is about and THAT is why this thread is filled with men saying they wont offer a seat to anyone who who stands. If the OP had her way every male over the age 13 would stand so everyone else could sit. NOW tell me, as a mother of a 14 year old who she is talking about, do you agree?

 

[TheMadScrapper]

I feel that when it comes to the elderly you should always give up your seat. I'm a woman and I can stand no biggie now a pregnant woman? That's different. A man should give up his seat for a pregnant lady, so should other women for that matter. I'm old fashioned to a point. I do expect men to behave like gentlemen and do things like open doors for their date, wife whatever.....but when it comes to a day at Disney everyone is beat and hey if you didn't get in line sooner then that's your problem.

 

[genius118899]

And one more thing, the OP says that if your 14 year old son dosnt give his seat to any woman/girl/parent/child/parent with child/old/young he is automatically rude. I HIGHLY doubt that.

THAT is what this topic is about and THAT is why this thread is filled with men saying they wont offer a seat to anyone who who stands. If the OP had her way every male over the age 13 would stand so everyone else could sit. NOW tell me, as a mother of a 14 year old who she is talking about, do you agree?

Every ABLE-BODIED male? Sure. As a healthy female, I'd politely refuse the seat. I was raised to be a lady, and my brothers were raised to be gentlemen. A lady who didn't need the seat would politely refuse it, but a gentleman would still offer. I've stated this before, but, for the record- I don't expect to be treated like a princess, I expect to be treated like a lady. I show the same courtesy to others (treat them like ladies and gentlemen).