Kids under 3

[StitchandPooh'sMom]

okay i have a question kind of on the topic, but not really. the last 2 times we stayed at a WDW resort on our resort print out it put the age (2) next to my daugther's name (she isn't two until the middle of oct.)....the CM must have taken down her age on the phone when they asked if we wanted to buy tickets for something and i said "no thanks, maybe next time, she's not even 2 yet" anyhow i figured i didn't need to say anything b/c they don't charge for 2 year olds. SO, my question is should i change her age with them? i'd hate for summer time to roll around next year and they have in her records that she "should" be 3 when she's not and be charged or have a discrepency with disney. do they keep track in their records like that?

CRO has known my kids' ages every time I have booked a trip. If you are going close to the 3rd birthday, you can bring a copy of the birth certificate. I have done that when my kids were two, although my reservation paperwork did reflect their correct ages. I don't think the CMs will shake you down - they try to believe that everyone is honest. Obviously not everyone is as you can tell from this thread, but they will try to believe the best. If I actually tried to pass my DD5 off as two because she only eats grilled cheese, I would hope they would call me out on it! We'll never know, though - my DD9 will turn 10 just after our next trip and she will be an adult for pricing purposes. My integrity is worth WAY more than the cost of a ticket or a few meals.

 

[I_Know_You2!]

And you actually think that is OK since your DD didn't find out? I love how all the supporters call it "fudging". Do "lying" and "stealing" offend your delicate sensibilities?

I must agree that the thread probably should be closed, lest the OP think all the DISers advocate lying, cheating and stealing. It is, after all, against the policy of the DIS to encourage, support or inform ways to break the rules.

You are right, of course.

Funny thing is that if one of their friends, business acquaintances, retail establishments "fudged" on the truth to them, they'd be here ranting. Or, LOL, if disney actually over charged them for something!

Changing the terminology does not change the lack of character.

 

[maxiesmom]

okay i have a question kind of on the topic, but not really. the last 2 times we stayed at a WDW resort on our resort print out it put the age (2) next to my daugther's name (she isn't two until the middle of oct.)....the CM must have taken down her age on the phone when they asked if we wanted to buy tickets for something and i said "no thanks, maybe next time, she's not even 2 yet" anyhow i figured i didn't need to say anything b/c they don't charge for 2 year olds. SO, my question is should i change her age with them? i'd hate for summer time to roll around next year and they have in her records that she "should" be 3 when she's not and be charged or have a discrepency with disney. do they keep track in their records like that?

Yeah, they actually do keep track of you children's ages. I know when we book trips now, they already know everyone's age before I even tell them.


You know, I wonder what kind of reaction I would get if I titled a post "Do you think I could go into Walmart and take some stuff without them noticing?" Do you think I would get the same number of people telling me it was ok, and not a big deal?

 

[StitchandPooh'sMom]

You know, I wonder what kind of reaction I would get if I titled a post "Do you think I could go into Walmart and take some stuff without them noticing?" Do you think I would get the same number of people telling me it was ok, and not a big deal?

I keep thinking I'll see a thread on the Budget Board about how to steal hundreds of dollars from Disney Stores. The arguments would be so similar:

1. I have spent so much money at Disney that they OWE me.
2. My children is 3, but she looks 2 and only wears a 2T. She is very picky, and why does such a little outfit have to cost so much?
3. Disney makes so much money that they will never miss it.
4. If I can just figure out how to defeat the security tags, I know I can stuff some things in my bag. They'll never catch me.
5. Other people have proudly posted on the DIS that THEY got away with stealing. Why should I have to pay?
6. I have saved for 27 years to afford this Pooh sweatshirt. There is no way I can afford matching shirts for everyone in my family, so I will only pay for four and pretend the youngest doesn't exist. I NEED and DESERVE a Pooh sweatshirt - this year has been really sad for me and I haven't had a Pooh sweatshirt in 6 years!

Sound familiar?

 

[I_Know_You2!]

Those outfits take practically NO fabric, either!

Besides, some CM SAID it was OK!

 

[PixieDustLove]

Yeah, they actually do keep track of you children's ages. I know when we book trips now, they already know everyone's age before I even tell them.


You know, I wonder what kind of reaction I would get if I titled a post "Do you think I could go into Walmart and take some stuff without them noticing?" Do you think I would get the same number of people telling me it was ok, and not a big deal?

i think you misread what i was saying. i wasn't asking the same thing as the original poster. i will not lie when my child turns 3, i was just asking since she is 1 now and they have her in the computer as a 2 year old if it will be an issue in the future.. anyhow, i'll fill them in when we go!

 

[StitchandPooh'sMom]

Those outfits take practically NO fabric, either!

Besides, some CM SAID it was OK!

And I read on the DIS that "everyone is doing it!"

 

[StitchandPooh'sMom]

i think you misread what i was saying. i wasn't asking the same thing as the original poster. i will not lie when my child turns 3, i was just asking since she is 1 now and they have her in the computer as a 2 year old if it will be an issue in the future.. anyhow, i'll fill them in when we go!

Although Maxiesmom responded to your question about the ages, I don't think the second part was for you. You were very clear about a mistake in your child's age. You never suggested that you were trying to cheat, and I don't think she took it that way. I think it was just all in the same post.

 

[PixieDustLove]

Although Maxiesmom responded to your question about the ages, I don't think the second part was for you. You were very clear about a mistake in your child's age. You never suggested that you were trying to cheat, and I don't think she took it that way. I think it was just all in the same post.

oops...haha, sorry. this is a heated thread that is stirring up a lot of emotions and probably should be deleted!!

 

[maxiesmom]

Sorry PixieDustLove, I wasn't trying to point the finger at you!

I just get so frustrated when I see people ask if it is ok if the do something that they know is wrong. And even more frustrated by the number of people who tell them yeah, go for it! Stealing is stealing, no matter how you phrase it. And no matter how much the company you are stealing from makes.

 

[Camno's Mama]

It's always so interesting to see this as a first or second post. I'm sure you could do a search to find the answer to your question - it's been asked quite a few times by people with few posts or people who change user IDs to ask this question.

My DD5 is a very picky eater and doesn't like to ride dark or fast rides. Should I say she is 2 since she won't eat as much as her sister who is 9? Maybe my 9 year old should get a price break since she can't play on some of the little kid playgrounds and doesn't get excited when she sees a princess. Disney doesn't charge by the number of rides ridden or how large an appetite someone has. If you want to pay by the ride, I suggest you try your local county fair.

You could always schedule your trip BEFORE her birthday - then she actually would be two! Or you could call Disney and see if they mind if you lie and cheat them out of the cost of a ticket. Maybe they will view you differently than the thousands of other parents who try to scheme their way in for free.

Funny how people never ask if it is OK to shoplift $200 or more in Disney merchandise from the World of Disney Store. It is the same thing. Does that seem right to you?

Do you think people really do that? Create new screen names just to start some drama? I see that theory on here a lot, and I can't believe people do that. Seriously, I don't even have enough time to really be comfortable visiting the boards as much as I do...much less change a screen name just to start something up!

I always figure it's just someone new...I can be a little naive though when it comes to stuff like this!

 

[StitchandPooh'sMom]

Do you think people really do that? Create new screen names just to start some drama? I see that theory on here a lot, and I can't believe people do that. Seriously, I don't even have enough time to really be comfortable visiting the boards as much as I do...much less change a screen name just to start something up!

I always figure it's just someone new...I can be a little naive though when it comes to stuff like this!

I don't know. It just seems like a strange first or second post. Instead of "I'm planning a trip and need help" or "which resort should I choose?", it's "Is it OK to lie aobut my kid's age?" Apparently the poster already knows the policy or the question wouldn't be asked. Maybe the OP is a long time lurker, which is why she knows the policy.

The second clue is that these posters never come back to the thread and never seem to post anywhere else.

I have read some threads where people say they have been here a long time but didn't want to post something under their user ID (like if they have family on the boards as well). That's probably where the theory comes from, but these type of "first posts" always seems to successfully stir up trouble.

 

[amandaraye]

I know for me, I'm purposely arriving in Disney the day before my daughter turns 3 so that Disney will consider her two for the entire trip but we can still celebrate. I contacted Disney directly to double-check their policy. We actually rescheduled the trip so we could 1) save money and 2) do it honestly. Sure I could have lied and said she's two, especially since she's very small for her age. But I don't want to teach my kids that that's ok to lie. Just my personal opinion. Take it as you wish.

 

[jboysen]

All I'm going to say, it will come back to bite you in the butt. My dd is not 3 yet, but last year she was 2 when we flew down there. She is a petite child and my husband didn't htink he would be all that uncomfortable with her on his lap. So, we did not buy her an airline ticket. my husband and dd sat by the window and I had the middle seat. I was stuck next to the most annoying old lady in the history of my being. If we would have bought the seat for my 2 yr old I would not have to put up with the old hag. We have since flew and bought my dd an airline ticket. It is much more comfortable.

 

[disneynewbee]

Even if she doesn't ride or eat alot she will still get her moneys worth with the shows and parades. They do ask their birthday if you stay at a disney resort so if you lie this time you will have to remember the fake birthday you give and continue the lie for as long as you plan to go to disney. I personally wouldn't but it's your call of course.

 

[bumbershoot]

Do you think people really do that? Create new screen names just to start some drama? I see that theory on here a lot, and I can't believe people do that. Seriously, I don't even have enough time to really be comfortable visiting the boards as much as I do...much less change a screen name just to start something up!

I don't theorize about whether THIS poster is doing that, but yes, there are people who do that. There are people who do very strange things on message boards...



I personally was glad to have planned trips to Disney(land) when DS was 1 and then 2, so by the time we went when he was 3, we were proud and happy to pay for his Annual Passport!!!!!

 

[natnelliesmom]

You are right, of course.

Funny thing is that if one of their friends, business acquaintances, retail establishments "fudged" on the truth to them, they'd be here ranting. Or, LOL, if disney actually over charged them for something!

Changing the terminology does not change the lack of character.

I didn't lie at Disney!!! What the heck did you folks have for breakfast!!

I said I told a white lie at times when my DD wouldn't hear me. Like the free story time at the library that DD4 was going to but my younger DD was 23 months and had to be 2 to attend!!! If parents have to attend with their kids what was I supposed to do?? Leave my 23 month old in the car????
How about the time at the mall when they were handing out balloons to children over 2- but my DD was only 20 mos. old. Her sister got one- try explaining that to a 20 m/o!! Of course I just smiled and said "of course she can have one".
Every person on this planet tells white lies. We have to to avoid hurting people's feelings. "Of course that shirt looks nice", "What a cute baby!", "No, DH, I didn't pay full price for that!" We all do it. It's self preservation.

I don't think people should lie to avoid paying for a 3 y/o child. But people do it all the time.

I think some of us need to get off our high horses and live in the real world with everyone else.
-Sarah


BTW.....

"StitchandPooh'sMom
Now if only I could think of something witty to say . . ."

Maybe you should change that to say; "Now if only I could think of something nice to say...."

 

[Tiffany_MommyOf3]

I didn't lie at Disney!!! What the heck did you folks have for breakfast!!

I said I told a white lie at times when my DD wouldn't hear me. Like the free story time at the library that DD4 was going to but my younger DD was 23 months and had to be 2 to attend!!! If parents have to attend with their kids what was I supposed to do?? Leave my 23 month old in the car????
How about the time at the mall when they were handing out balloons to children over 2- but my DD was only 20 mos. old. Her sister got one- try explaining that to a 20 m/o!! Of course I just smiled and said "of course she can have one".
Every person on this planet tells white lies. We have to to avoid hurting people's feelings. "Of course that shirt looks nice", "What a cute baby!", "No, DH, I didn't pay full price for that!" We all do it. It's self preservation.

I don't think people should lie to avoid paying for a 3 y/o child. But people do it all the time.

I think some of us need to get off our high horses and live in the real world with everyone else.
-Sarah


BTW.....

"StitchandPooh'sMom
Now if only I could think of something witty to say . . ."

Maybe you should change that to say; "Now if only I could think of something nice to say...."

I think the difference between the library thing and Disney is that the library storytime is always free, regardless of age - I go to storytimes with all of my children (5, 3, 2, and 7 months). They certainly don't think my 5 yr old is 2 or that my 7 month old is 2? LOL. If I had to pay for storytime and children under 3 were free, and those over 3 cost money, I would be paying for my 5 yr old and my 3 yr old - even though my 3 yr old is extremely little and doesn't speak.

 

[I_Know_You2!]

The real world to me is being honest, paying for the services I use, and not believing (or teaching my children) that the rules really just don't apply to me.

I still challenge the liars to answer. Do you have a problem when people lie to you? And would you have a problem with people stealing your product because, really, it is just far too expensive?

 

[StitchandPooh'sMom]

I didn't lie at Disney!!! What the heck did you folks have for breakfast!!

I said I told a white lie at times when my DD wouldn't hear me. Like the free story time at the library that DD4 was going to but my younger DD was 23 months and had to be 2 to attend!!! If parents have to attend with their kids what was I supposed to do?? Leave my 23 month old in the car????
How about the time at the mall when they were handing out balloons to children over 2- but my DD was only 20 mos. old. Her sister got one- try explaining that to a 20 m/o!! Of course I just smiled and said "of course she can have one".
Every person on this planet tells white lies. We have to to avoid hurting people's feelings. "Of course that shirt looks nice", "What a cute baby!", "No, DH, I didn't pay full price for that!" We all do it. It's self preservation.

I don't think people should lie to avoid paying for a 3 y/o child. But people do it all the time.

I think some of us need to get off our high horses and live in the real world with everyone else.
-Sarah


BTW.....

"StitchandPooh'sMom
Now if only I could think of something witty to say . . ."

Maybe you should change that to say; "Now if only I could think of something nice to say...."

Ooh, maybe the Tag Fairy can bless you with that one. I didn't make up my tag - it was granted to me, and I am happy to have it.

Considering the original post was about lying about a child's age for DISNEY (on the DISNEY board, no less), it's not a big stretch to think you were talking about that. Maybe you should re-read your own post. You didn't mention "white lies" - you mentioned "fudging" your child's age. Perhaps it is what you had for breakfast that is clouding your thinking.

Maybe storytime is only for 2 and up so the rest of the families don't have to deal with younger kids and their parents. Maybe you should have waited until the next month to not inconvenience the others. There are babysitters, too - great invention. I would certainly never advocate leaving a child in the car, whether they were 2, not quite 2 but I will say they are, or three but I'll say they are two.

I can think of plenty of nice things to say, but not at the moment. Once you get off your "high horse and live in the real world" with the rest of US, maybe I can think of something. This thread had actually managed to stay civil until you posted today.

Oh, and we should probably clarify. "White lies" are told to spare the feelings of someone and serve no benefit to the teller. "Fudging" or whatever you choose to call it gets you something you are not entitled to. Not sure how getting your kid into storytime benefited anyone but you. Same as lying to avoid paying for the ticket - the benefit is given to the liar.