Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 8

[3prettyprincesses]

hayley's lawyer's comments on her behalf could actualy help him with a claim.

jon can show he left and did'nt return until immediatly before it was reported to police. hayley's statements are that she and her 'friends' did remove (with jon's permission) some items from the place and at that time there was no damages.

that supports his claim that he, the insured did'nt cause the damage/loss.

this does'nt exclude, however, the possibility that either (1) jon prearranged a staged break-in, OR (2) hayley purposely left the door unlocked (either hoping for a break in, or in colusion with jon to facilitate one-she may be tweeting angry statements about him, but he still owes her money and she may be well aware of whatever insurance payments he has available. and if as reported, the debt to her is now overdue for repayment-she would do well to get a judgement against him to try and capture any funds he comes into that child support does'nt hold first claims to).

Hmm, there's an interesting thought. Does anyone know if the apartment was in both Jon & Hailey's name? Or was it just Jon's? I know Hailey claims it was hers too since she was paying 1/2 the rent apparently. Speaking of paying rent, did you all notice that it was Hailey's parents paying her rent, not Hailey. Just noticed that, not that it means anything but I thought it was interesting. I guess she doesn't have a job then.

 

[happygirl]

Hmm, there's an interesting thought. Does anyone know if the apartment was in both Jon & Hailey's name? Or was it just Jon's? I know Hailey claims it was hers too since she was paying 1/2 the rent apparently. Speaking of paying rent, did you all notice that it was Hailey's parents paying her rent, not Hailey. Just noticed that, not that it means anything but I thought it was interesting. I guess she doesn't have a job then.

I believe on the news that said it was in both of there names, Which I don't understand if Jon and Kate were still legally married doesn't she have a right to that apt as well

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I believe on the news that said it was in both of there names, Which I don't understand if Jon and Kate were still legally married doesn't she have a right to that apt as well

It's a rental--so there is no vested equity to be concerned with.

Also--their divorce is now final, so she can't retroactively decide she wants half of the now smashed big screen.

 

[happygirl]

It's a rental--so there is no vested equity to be concerned with.

Also--their divorce is now final, so she can't retroactively decide she wants half of the now smashed big screen.

Oh for some reason I thought he bought it

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Oh for some reason I thought he bought it

Well, they keep referring to rental payments and I'm not sure he had the ability to get a mortgage on a NYC apartment with his financial difficulties. A lease does not always have the same--litmus for affordability.

I'm wondering if that is why Hailey was living with him--to help wtih his expenses.

 

[barkley]

Well, they keep referring to rental payments and I'm not sure he had the ability to get a mortgage on a NYC apartment with his financial difficulties. A lease does not always have the same--litmus for affordability.

I'm wondering if that is why Hailey was living with him--to help wtih his expenses.

i think it was a rental as well.

the thing is-this may come back to bite him in the butt. some high end places with security have it written in the lease that only the named tenant can live in the place, and anyone else has to get approval from the leasing company. if this is the case with his place, and hayley is'nt on the lease-even if he could come up with the money to prevent eviction they could oust him on a lease violation (depending on the 'tone' of the place they might not have approved miss hayley with her prior drug issues with law enforcement).

this could also invalidate any kind of coverage the building has regarding their security. if it's the kind where they guarantee a certain level of security for the legal residents, having an illegal roommate could waive the place of any liability.

 

[WaltD4Me]

hayley's lawyer's comments on her behalf could actualy help him with a claim.

jon can show he left and did'nt return until immediatly before it was reported to police. hayley's statements are that she and her 'friends' did remove (with jon's permission) some items from the place and at that time there was no damages.

that supports his claim that he, the insured did'nt cause the damage/loss.

this does'nt exclude, however, the possibility that either (1) jon prearranged a staged break-in, OR (2) hayley purposely left the door unlocked (either hoping for a break in, or in colusion with jon to facilitate one-she may be tweeting angry statements about him, but he still owes her money and she may be well aware of whatever insurance payments he has available. and if as reported, the debt to her is now overdue for repayment-she would do well to get a judgement against him to try and capture any funds he comes into that child support does'nt hold first claims to).

If Jon can prove he called police immediatley he may be off the hook, but you'd think someone would already be saying that, like his sleazy lawyer. I bet there is a time gap there...from him getting home to calling police. Jon probably called his sleazy lawyer first.

For some reason I can't picture either Jon or Hailey trashing the apartment. Don't ask me why though. I can picture Hailey leaving the door open and
saying to someone on her way out "Door's open, help yourself!" Wonder if the police bothered to fingerprint the knife? What a mess.

 

[kidshop]

I think right now Jon is a basket case. I think he needs some serious help or the next headline will be Jon Gosselin has committed sucicide sp?

Or it was staged to look like a suicide....

I would sleep with one eye open if I were him. This is going to end badly, it's just a matter of when.

I hope something changes and his descent (whether by his own doing or that of others) into darkness turns around.

 

[KristiKelly]

I haven't posted in awhile and I'm going to ramble now but...

I've heard my parents speak of people who "can't afford to divorce" and I honestly believe this is/was Jon & Kate. I think if this show never happened Jon would've never noticed the way Kate treated him and all would be merry - somewhat.

There life is such a mess since the separation/divorce. They were worth much more together than they will ever be apart. Although to us things seemed verbally abusive I honestly think it worked for them because apparantly Jon doesn't have the ability to speak for himself.

The whole thing is very sad on both sides - especially the kids.

 

[KristiKelly]

Or it was staged to look like a suicide....

I would sleep with one eye open if I were him. This is going to end badly, it's just a matter of when.

I hope something changes and his descent (whether by his own doing or that of others) into darkness turns around.

Jon and Kate need to talk and come up with something amiable if not for HER for their kids.

I remember when Kathie Lee Gifford said something to the effect of "not forgiving her husband but forgiving the father of their children".

I hope they can find a happy ending for THEM or I can see it ending very badly.

I wish they both could get back to where they were.

 

[DMRick]

I don't understand. Are you saying somehow Kate has to talk about this to Jon and fix this mess Jon is in? And find a happy ending for Jon? I think other than arrangements with the kids, she's done with him and him with her. This is his cesspool.

Jon and Kate need to talk and come up with something amiable if not for HER for their kids.

I remember when Kathie Lee Gifford said something to the effect of "not forgiving her husband but forgiving the father of their children".

I hope they can find a happy ending for THEM or I can see it ending very badly.

I wish they both could get back to where they were.

 

[disneymarie]

Hailey Glassman 'is going to jail' in Jon Gosselin break-in, says his lawyer

Could Jon Gosselin's ex-lover Hailey Glassman actually be the criminal that broke into his Manhattan apartment?

The octodad's lawyer thinks so.

"Hailey Glassman is going to jail. It's a simple as that," Gosselin's attorney Mark Heller told RadarOnline.

Heller says officials are quickly gathering evidence: finger prints from a note and knife "speared" to a bureau and a building security tape.

"The building security tape will not lie and the evidence will speak for itself," Heller told Radar Online.

The former "Jon and Kate Plus 8" star found his bachelor pad ransacked after returning from Christmas with his family.

The perpetrator reportedly didn't steal anything, but damaged expensive items like Gosselin's big screen plasma TV and a 100-year-old Ming vase.

Glassman, 22, and her parents were questioned by police on Saturday, but Glassman's attorney told the Web site that someone was trying to frame her.

The former lovers split a few months ago and Glassman just moved out of the apartment a week ago.

So Haily moves out, they are estraged, and Jon does not change the locks.
Also, possibly the two most important property items are destroyed, that is rage. No items stolen, no trashing for "suveniers" No pad photos on the Inet...Ummmmmmmmmm'

Even if they get her prints, they would be expected to be in there. Of course men break up with those that they are not so into right before Holiday's.

She had motive and oppertunity, She has anger and control issues.
Bad boy Jon not taking care of his paramour on the Holidays and spending time with the kids.
Daddy will get her out of it.....

 

[SouthernExplorer]

Happy New Year Everybody!

This report says that Kate's getting her own reality dating show:

http://www.newser.com/story/77256/kate-gosselin-reality-dating-show-in-works.html



If this is true I hope that the men will heed Monty Pyton's advice and RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY!

Can this get any more absurd?

 

[PaulaSB12]

Happy New Year Everybody!

This report says that Kate's getting her own reality dating show:

http://www.newser.com/story/77256/kate-gosselin-reality-dating-show-in-works.html



If this is true I hope that the men will heed Monty Pyton's advice and RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY!

Can this get any more absurd?

Quite frankly I think her ex husband needs to go for custody of these children the behaviour she demonstrated to him was domestic abuse and what has she been showing her children, to the boys they are not worth anything and can be belittled and slapped at will and to the girls that men are to be abused because you will not get called on it because the victims of male domestic abuse are rarely believed.

 

[barkley]

a reality dating show? realy? and this is wise how?

if she's choosing to date in this manner to truly seek out a significant other, she might want to look at the history of these shows and consider their track record on doing complete background checks on the dating prospects (lest we/she forget the issues with at least 2 prominant male participants on these types of shows who were learned after the fact-and in one case after a murder occured-to have police records of domestic violence against women in their lives)

if she's choosing to date in this manner strictly for the money-well...um... is'nt that like being a paid escort?

 

[happygirl]

Yuck I would hate for her to do a dating show. I wish she would have done the talk show with Paula Deen that would have been a great show

 

[OhMari]

I don't understand. Are you saying somehow Kate has to talk about this to Jon and fix this mess Jon is in? And find a happy ending for Jon? I think other than arrangements with the kids, she's done with him and him with her. This is his cesspool.

ITA!
I think everyone forgets that Kate, was the one who told Jon she was done. Kate has never looked back and Jon has been messing up since the day she told him, "its over".

 

[DMRick]

ITA!
I think everyone forgets that Kate, was the one who told Jon she was done. Kate has never looked back and Jon has been messing up since the day she told him, "its over".

I agree Jon should be on his own now, but I really don't know if Kate has never looked back, or what the reasons were she told him she was done. But done she is, and she isn't responsible for his messes. I sure would rather see her with physical custody, than him.

 

[newtodis]

Hey All!!! Hope you had a good holiday!!

As for the apartment thing - that's crazy!! I don't know how the could prove Hailey did anything. Was her name really on the lease too? Seems like we'd have heard about that long ago instead of now. I thought Hailey had her own apartment??? Where was Kate during the holidays while Jon was with the kids? Now that would be ironic! Maybe Kate paid Hailey to do it! I don't know that either is smart enough to try and pull an insurance scam and I think Hailey's smart enough that she wouldn't do something this stupid to be pinned back on her. I just don't know...so sorry Jonny Boy! And for Hailey's parents paying half the rent, when they realized Jon wasn't paying, why'd they keep paying him? Why not pay to the company directly? I would think if Hailey's name was on the place too, they'd pay everything just to save Hailey and try and get out of the lease. Too many things that don't add up with this one!

As for Kate's dating show, the way I read it, Kate's looking for anything to make her some money right now. I'm sure they're blowing through whatever's saved. It cannot be cheap to take care of 8 kids and I haven't (although I've been so busy lately) seen any photos of crazy trips or anything like that so I would guess she's spending money as conservatively (sp?) as possible right now. I hope she can find something to do to help support her family. She better get back to that cookbook and writing another tell all.

I think I read that someone said Kate said it was over and "gave up" on Jon...did we ever determine that to be the case? I'm sorry I can't keep it all straight!

I hope the kids had a good holiday at home with their family and friends and are enjoying being back in school. I'm sure it's a lot to get used to for them not having the cameras following them around all the time but I hope they're adjusting well. If they're going to do another show with the kids, start it soon before they adjust to not having the cameras around - don't keep doing the in and out with it all....

 

[momrek06]

What ever happened with the apartment break-in? Did the Police find the culprit(s)?