Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 5

[Promomx2]

Maybe Jon thinks TLC stands for Trashy Lover Channel. I still don't believe that Kate is sqeaky clean in all this. Just think back to last year at this time. We were actually talking about the kids, boy how things have changed. If someone had told me everything that has happened over this year with them, I'd say that was some kind of lifetime movie.

 

[MM27]

Holy. Cow.

I shouldn't even post this one ... but I will.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...-lesbian-lover-warns-jon-“she’ll-destroy-you”

Wow, this whole thing is getting creepier and creepier everyday.

It looked like the dogs were glad to see him

Probably because Kate keeps them crated a lot. She doesn't seem to like them very much.

 

[Tickla]

I am in awe over Jon--already engaged?? And the ring-- a $180k skull with 4 black diamonds??? If this is true.....I am just speechless.

 

[Disneynut5]

Well, Kate may not be clean in all of this but a little dirt under the collar is different than living in the trash like Jon is... What an example he is setting for his children - especially his boys. And he is NOT moving forward as he says - he is moving BACK in time to the wild, college party days that poor Jon did not have because he had twins at 23 and sextuplets at 27! A real, grown up man would know that reading his daughter a story in bed and tucking her in at night was much more statisfying than any club partying!

I really think Kate believed that Jon would never leave her and that her treatment of him was not that bad. I also believe that she went into treatment for her OCD early on in the shows seasons. I think she was trying hard to keep her marriage together and to give Jon what he wanted thinking he would not leave her but he intended to do so anyway. I think she would have gone to counseling and worked on their issues but he wanted out - --- so he could go be "free." I detest the man!

 

[TeresaNJ]

For someone who was supposedly so angry at all the paparazzi following him prior to the annoucement of the split, it now appears he was more angry at the fact that he was perceived as a wuss who received no attention, while Kate got all of the attention. Now he has all the attention he wants. What a disgusting piece of humanity he is, to put himself out there like he is doing, allowing those photos to forever haunt his children. I can now understand why Kate felt like she had to file for divorce when she did. She needs to protect those kids from this lowlife and his acquaintances.

 

[ma2jr]

For someone who was supposedly so angry at all the paparazzi following him prior to the annoucement of the split, it now appears he was more angry at the fact that he was perceived as a wuss who received no attention, while Kate got all of the attention. Now he has all the attention he wants. What a disgusting piece of humanity he is, to put himself out there like he is doing, allowing those photos to forever haunt his children. I can now understand why Kate felt like she had to file for divorce when she did. She needs to protect those kids from this lowlife and his acquaintances.

I'm not thinking wuss now... other words yes wuss no.

 

[TeresaNJ]

I'm not thinking wuss now... other words yes wuss no.

Well, I had to keep it family friendly, LOL!

 

[DMRick]

Probably because Kate keeps them crated a lot. She doesn't seem to like them very much.

Really? I see them loose in most all of the pictures with Kate. I know she asked for Jon to crate them the time they were having a picnic on the ground..did I miss a lot of other times?

 

[Mermaid02]

Wow, this whole thing is getting creepier and creepier everyday.



Probably because Kate keeps them crated a lot. She doesn't seem to like them very much.

The dogs were just excited to see one of their own kind. (sorry to offend any canines out there)

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

I am absolutely disgusted in Jon. If they end up going on with the show I sure hope it is without Jon. I just can't stand to even look at him anymore. He is such an idiot. If he cared for his kids one bit like he claims he does than he wouldn't be acting the way he is right now. It is just so disgusting.

ITA...I don't care to see Jon on the show at all.

 

[GJM]

The dogs were just excited to see one of their own kind. (sorry to offend any canines out there)

This is so funny - I just about spit my soda out!

 

[jpaxton1118]

I think that this is why Kate filed for divorce. If she was friends with Haley's parents then they may have told her stories about her. Once Kate got back from the beach and found out he was with her then she knew she had to protect her kids from this situation.

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

I bet this was why she filed when she did. I'm betting she found out (maybe hired a PI?) to find some info out and when she did, what choice would she have but to file?!! There is no "working it out" with someone like Jon and who he is now. Too dangerous.

This is exactly what I was thinking.

 

[momrek06]

WAIT!!!!!!!!!!! Jon is engaged???????????

 

[redrosesix]

Is it 45 days not talking to each other?
Or 45 days not talking to the press?
What was the GMA interview-did Jon actually say something? or did GMA just do some kind of report like Access Hollywood.

I can't believe Jon made the cover of US magazine over Jessica Simpson.

The writer of the People magazine article spoke with GMA. And they were speaking about Jon, not with him -- they're very obviously on Kate's side.

Ummm, does Jon know that People magazine is on Kate's side? Why would he give them an interview? I'm at a loss! They didn't even try to spin it nice, he looks worse than if he said nothing at all.

It's interesting they referred to him as Mr Mom and now the roles were reversed (him gone and Kate at home).

I stand by my opinion that they are now both equally horrible people, it just depends on the day which one is getting the attention. They have to make Kate the poor, struggling mom so she will have sympathy and a show to return to. She would redeem herself in my eyes if she got her kids off TV, out of Ed Hardy ads (if in fact that is Jon's plan) and no more books of their faces. Give them privacy.....that is only way I will change my feelings toward Kate.

Yes, that would redeem Kate, even in my eyes.

If this is the kind of company Jon is keeping these days Kate needs to seek supervised visitation.

And why would he feel the need to go bike riding? I would think he would want to spend every minute he had with the kids!

TC

I don't know about PA, but here supervised visitation is only required when the parent has been convicted of or admitted to abusing their kids or napping them -- wouldn't that requirement be a bit extreme in this case?

 

[heartsy77]

IMO John should be lucky she didn't change the locks and file for full custody while he on vacation with the scanke! She obviously has more self control than I do; I sure as hell would not be leaving my house every other week for him to bring questionable young "ladies" around my kids! I don't think she is playing nice for the show; I really don't see why it couldn't be Kate + 8! As far as the contract with TLC it seems if Jon wanted out, as he previously claimed, Kate could redo the contract just for her? Seems funny now he loves the paparazzi following him now the world thinks he's a sleaze not a wuss!

 

[Mermaid02]

This is so funny - I just about spit my soda out!

Thanks- I feel bad for saying that about the dogs though. I'm going to have to do some community service at the humane society for that one!

 

[Miss Park Avenue]

I saw this coming like a speeding train. I've said before I wouldn't post on these boards, but I'm sucked back in again.
Jon is exactly like my ex, but 8 years younger. I was somewhat like Kate, a bit OCD and I kind of took the bull by the horns in my marriage. If I didn't, nothing would have ever gotten done. My ex was like Jon - loving to the kids, enjoyed playing/hanging out. My ex turned 40, bought a sports car. Stayed out all night one night, had an excuse which I foolishly believed. Anyway, 6 days before our WDW trip with his family - he says he's not happy and walks out. (16 years of marriage, 20 together and 3 kids). Fast forward - he went on a cruise with his girlfriend while I took the kids to WDW. Got engaged to her. I filed for divorce and he married her 2 months after the divorce was final. The whole process took almost 1 year from the day he walked out until the day he married her.
Why did I tell all this? I guess because I see a parallel with our lives. Both Jon and my ex have completely "checked out". Jon talks like my ex, monotone, no emotion, poor me, I'm free, blah blah blah. People have always bashed Kate because of her take charge attitude, but with 8 kids, who's to say how you would act? I like Kate's OCD attitude over that other mom, Jenny? with the new show about sextuplets. Those kids are running in the street, playing in bathtubs, (at a hotel, unsupervised) Never dressed or have their hair comb. Crazy over there. Do I agree with the family being put on tv? Not sure. I don't think anyone could have imagined how it would turn out. When things started to go bad they probably should have bailed, but I'm sure there was a contract in place. My heart breaks for those kids and for Kate. I know how terrifying it is being alone with 3 kids - can't imagine 8. No one deserves to be treated the way Kate is. I can't imagine how it feels to actually see your ex with his girlfriend splashed all over tv and magazines. That is a giant slap in the face. I'm sure those kids won't even be able to walk into a grocery store/Target for a long time because their parents are splashed all over the magazines. Very, very sad situation.

rileyroo, you have hit the nail right on the head. I have lurked on this thread since the beginning and this is my first post. I couldn't post what I wanted without a 5000 word rant but you said all I wanted to say in just a few paragraphs. Watching Jon is liking watching my exhusband in the last year of our marriage. Oh my goodness, Jon even looks like him. My ex even had the motorcycle. I used to watch him hop up on that bike and wonder where he was headed off to for so long. I kind of knew but didn't want to admit it at the time.

IMO anyone stunned by his actions are unfamiliar with what happens when the man who used to love his wife and family just decides to throw it all away. When the tabloids came out with pictures of him with the 23 year old, I didn't want to believe them. But when I saw him the very next season, It was soooo obvious. His actions were textbook "middle age crisis-seven year itch- reclaiming his youth" pick your excuse, sad pathetic behavior. I'm not surprised at all what he's doing in France, the smoking, the 20 somethings, his new fashion (non)sense, the "oooh, tough guy" motorcycle, the smirking at the cameras, his excitement for his new life.

"I'm only 32..." How old are your KIDS, Jon!!

Kate may have her faults (who rips ice cream away from their kids at WDW??? There's only 50 t-shirt stores around.) but really, who of us doesn't??? That is no excuse for what he did to her. When my husband was whining how "tired" he was, every fault, every little non-perfect attribute about myself was listed as reasons why he "didn't love me anymore" It was so humiliating and degrading. I ran around like a chicken trying to do better, trying not to "set him off" (much like Kate felt when she wanted to approach Jon about moving the playhouses) It didn't matter. He had a big $$$ settlement coming for his injury and a new girlfriend and he wanted O-U-T (both the money and the girlfriend are long gone btw).

Ok I ranted enough. I've probably hit 5000 words with my response. Hugs to you rileyroosmom I don't wish the pain of infidality on my worst enemy. Much less an OCD mother of eight in Reading PA.

 

[madge]

I am in awe over Jon--already engaged?? And the ring-- a $180k skull with 4 black diamonds??? If this is true.....I am just speechless.

the reports are that they are not engaged... thank goodness. not sure if I believe it or not.

whose money is buying that ring? Mady's? Cara's? Leah's?

 

[madge]

the "real" story of how Jon went to France. as real as any of the others, I guess.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/all...jon-gosselin-hailey-jon-s-new-girlfriend.html