Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 5

[Straitlover]

I read a blurb on the MSN Wonderwall (their gossip section) that supposedly in the divorce papers Kate said they ahve been living apart for the last 2 years. Sorry if someone already posted that!

 

[DreaGirl]

Divorce papers say the couple have been living apart for at least 2 years.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/23/jon-kate-divorce-papers-l_n_219804.html

Kate Gosselin says in divorce papers that she and her husband Jon have lived "separate and apart" for at least two years. Gosselin filed for divorce Monday in Montgomery County Court in Pennsylvania, saying in papers that her 10-year marriage is "irretrievably broken."

The star of TLC's "Jon & Kate Plus 8" also says they have been unable to agree on dividing their assets.

The Gosselins had portrayed themselves as happy until the past few months, even renewing their wedding vows in Hawaii last year.

The divorce filing was obtained Tuesday by The Associated Press.

The series follows Jon and Kate Gosselin as they raise their eight young children, including 8-year-old twins and sextuplets who just turned 5.

 

[DreaGirl]

Jon speaks:
http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/06/75606/index.html

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"Jon & Kate Plus 8" reality star Jon Gosselin is opening up in a statement to ET about the recent announcement that he is separating from his wife Kate.

"Yesterday, Kate filed for divorce. Our kids are still my number one priority. I love them and want to make sure they stay happy, healthy and safe," he said in his statement regarding the initial divorce papers that were filed on Monday.

"My job is being the best, most supportive and loving father that I can be to my kids, and not being married to Kate doesn't change that. This will be a difficult transition for all of us, but Kate and I will work out a schedule that enables our kids to have plenty of quality time with both of us at home in Pennsylvania."

Jon and Kate announced their separation on their TLC reality show Monday night. "I am deeply saddened that we are divorcing, and also hurt by the statement Kate made last night about the divorce. I have always done everything I can to protect our family."

He comments on his Father's Day, "This weekend, I was home with the kids for four days, just being a dad. No nannies, just the kids and me. In fact, with the exception of Aaden's visit to the doctor, I couldn't have imagined a better way to spend Fathers Day weekend."

Jon continues, "The one thing I do agree with in Kate's statement is her desire to resolve things amicably. Of course emotions are running high for both of us right now, but for the sake of our children and our family's privacy, I hope that we can both limit our public comments about the legal proceedings going forward."

 

[kidshop]

Divorce papers say the couple have been living apart for at least 2 years.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/23/jon-kate-divorce-papers-l_n_219804.html

Kate Gosselin says in divorce papers that she and her husband Jon have lived "separate and apart" for at least two years. Gosselin filed for divorce Monday in Montgomery County Court in Pennsylvania, saying in papers that her 10-year marriage is "irretrievably broken."

The star of TLC's "Jon & Kate Plus 8" also says they have been unable to agree on dividing their assets.

The Gosselins had portrayed themselves as happy until the past few months, even renewing their wedding vows in Hawaii last year.

The divorce filing was obtained Tuesday by The Associated Press.

The series follows Jon and Kate Gosselin as they raise their eight young children, including 8-year-old twins and sextuplets who just turned 5.

2 YEARS? Huh?! So why is Kate acting like this is all a shock. That can't be right....unless Jon really was sleeping in the basement (not Leah) all that time!

 

[3prettyprincesses]

Kids who do the best after divorce have parents who put the kids first. (Easy to say, much harder to practice.) By treating their ex-spouse with respect, never putting the kids in the middle, ( with nasty comments, quizzing, that sort of thing) and working together as a team, parents can really make a difference in how a child processes and experiences a divorce. Of course, if the parents can't control their emotions, the opposite is true.
Here's hoping Jon and Kate are willing to do the extremely hard work of being parents first and foremost for the long term emotional good of 8 kids.

If J&K can put their differences aside then I think the kids will be able to adapt. I thought it was interesting to see how calm and relaxed Mady has been lately on the show...she's been kind and thoughtful. I'm wondering if the stress of being around J&K with all of their fighting made her behavior worse before and now that they've been seperated she is doing better. Who knows. Kids definitely respond to parent's stress.

Divorce is sad, but sometimes it is totally the best thing for the children.

I told my DD that I was divorcing her father when she was eight years old. I'll never forget the look on her face -- she smiled and had more peace than she had in months. Listening to your parents fighting is terrible for a child. I don't think anyone grows up in that type of environment and has good memories of it. My DD has wonderful memories, after we left her father, the fighting stopped and the peace entered our lives. I never considered it a failure, I considered it salvation for us.

I do hope Jon doesn't just drift out of the kid's lives. I personally suspect that he might, my opinion only. I hope they can make it work and move on, if only for the children.

My parents fought ALL THE TIME. I am not exaggerating. The memories I have is of them screaming at one another, throwing things or my Dad leaving for little "trips". Very unhealthy for all of us and by the time I was 11 they were divorced.

However, after they divorced they both so much animosity and bitterness they couldn't even speak to each other without fighting or even be in the same room for long. Christmas' were painful so eventually we spent Christmas morning with Mom and then with Dad that night seperately. I'm really really really hoping J&K can find a way to put their feelings about each other aside for their little ones. It is so difficult AFTER the divorce to still see your parents barely conceal their hatred for each other. My sister and I both saw this and it was hard to deal with. What they all really need is good counseling both for J&K to learn to handle each other and for the kids.

I will say that the kids have always looked happy and well-adjusted but we're only seeing snippets of their days. Maybe they are unhappy inside, particulary Cara & Mady. It's just so sad for everyone involved. Yes divorce can be a good thing but I've also lived the aftermath of parents who still couldn't be civil. Heck my parents refused to be photographed together at my wedding and my photographer literally argued with them and forced them to! I certainly wouldn't want that for any of the Gosselin kids. And for the record, Kevin & Jodi would be the LAST people I'd enlist for help after all the trash they've talked about J&K+8. My 2 cents worth this evening...

 

[Lauralee]

Just speculating here, but I'm thinking that the home will end up being put in some kind of trust in the kids' names. She said that the home was purchased for the kids -- it's theirs. The kids would have that security and comfort. Kate would be the primary parental resident, living there M-Th; Jon would be able to stay in the house F-Sun. as was stated elsewhere in this thread being the tentative agreement.

As far as who gets what bedroom, etc., it would be practical that Kate gets the master bedroom and Jon gets another bedroom with it's own bath. In a house of that size, I'm guessing there might already be a guest room set up like that somewhere. If not, they will remodel. Both Kate's and Jon's rooms will be locked down when they are not at the house.

As for J&K's other living arrangements, sounds like Jon is heading to NYC, renting an apartment and looking for a job. IDK, but I'd suspect that after awhile, commuting back and forth from NYC will get old and his new bachelor/clubbing lifestyle or a new job will eventually lead to fewer weekend visits back home with the kids. Kate might get a little apartment close to home, and try to keep busy on the weekends with appearances and doing family business. Kate said last night that she WILL spend all holidays with the kids. I can totally see that happening if she and Jon can act respectful to each other when they are both with the kids at the same time. They don't HAVE to split visitation at the holidays with the living arrangement they've figured out.

I think they'll continue doing the show as long as TLC lets it run. It's their income, their livelihood for the time being. That's why Kate said the show will continue. As with all shows on TV, it will run its course. Their income from other show-related projects will eventually die off. If they're smart, they'll be banking every dollar that they can now.

 

[supercarrie]

2 YEARS? Huh?! So why is Kate acting like this is all a shock. That can't be right....unless Jon really was sleeping in the basement (not Leah) all that time!

TMZ is reporting something different - that simply means she must wait 2 years from the moment the marriage was considered over before the divorce can be finalized.

She actually ticked both options (marriage is irretrievably broken OR the two year rule). Presumably this is because Jon could contest that the marriage is irretrievably broken.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/23/jon-and-kate-divorce-papers-are-deceiving/

 

[Teresa Pitman]

I just caught the re-run of the episode where they all went to Disney World. I felt quite emotional seeing them at Chef Mickey's and riding Dumbo, but honestly, I was so not impressed with Kate. First, little Colin (I think it was Colin) wanted to ride Dumbo again when the ride stopped. Instead of trying to explain things to him, or comfort him because he was sad, she yanks him away, marches him out, and says in a very annoyed voice "okay, you're with Daddy now the rest of the day." What is that? Going with Daddy is your punishment?

Then we had the ice cream incident. I know, people have posted about this before but - honestly, she was so over the top. The kids were crying that they were hungry, and then she takes away the ice cream that they were given! Because it might make a mess. Honestly, she could have bought them all new outfits if it was that big a problem. Not like they couldn't afford it.

Adding that to some of the other scenes - including her spanking one of the little girls - I want to say to Jon "please don't leave those kids with Kate."

Teresa

 

[joviroxx]

Well, I hope its not right.. It would really make for really ugly commentary on their vow renewal ceremony in Hawaii last year.

 

[Promomx2]

Just my two cents: Jon said that "we bought the house" last night. Also how can they be living separate for two years when they went to Hawaii and renewed their vows. Okay I want my money back. I worked for a attorney, but it's been a while, and with children the couple have to be separate for a year before starting the divorce. But living separate means not in the same house. So I wonder if Kate says that they've been living separate for two years so she can hurry up the divorce papers.

 

[DreaGirl]

http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/23/jon-and-kate...-are-deceiving/

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Jon & Kate Divorce Papers are Deceiving

Posted Jun 23rd 2009 6:00PM by TMZ Staff

There's a report floating out there that Kate Gosselin has been separated from Jon for two years. That's not true, and we have the lowdown.

We now know what Kate checked on the divorce papers, which are confidential. There are two grounds for a no fault divorce in Pennsylvania -- the first is waiting 90 days after the papers have been served. Then, if both Jon and Kate agree the marriage is "irretrievably broken" ... the divorce can proceed.

And there's a second option -- that they have lived separate and apart for 2 years. But that doesn't mean they have been separated for that long. It means she must wait 2 years from the moment she considered the marriage kaput and began living separately (if only in different bedrooms). We're told the real separation between Jon and Kate is very recent and Kate checked the box just to get the clock ticking.

We found out Kate checked both boxes, and here's why. Jon may not agree that the marriage is irretrievably broken. If that's the case she has to wait the two years. So by checking both boxes, Kate is hedging her bets.

Ultimately, she would have to prove to the judge when she considered herself separate from Jon.

 

[DreaGirl]

Double Post.

 

[Mickey527]

Again, I don't watch the show, I have changed channels on occasion and caught a few minutes of the show but it is depressing to watch Kate and her anger. I did watch the last 1/2 hour of last night's show when it was replayed at midnight.
Our news station here also just announced that Jon and Kate have lived seperately for the past two years.
Looking back on the actions of the two I can see the way Jon rolled his eyes at Kate and had his own single friends that he was beginning to live the "single" life. He was moving on, but he did seem to be there when his kids needed him. He was home for the twins when they needed to come back from NC early and get to school. He also is the one who takes the kids to the emergency room when they are injured. He does seem like a responsible parent. He might have wanderlust, but he is showing that his kids are very important to him.
Kate on the other hand kept living the life she wanted to portray on television. A happily married family with 8 wonderful kids. She must have known that this would happen. I didn't think she looked believable when she said she had a 1/2 day cry fest and now see that she is a great actress. How many others said they felt sorry for her. All the while she was acting like the hurt wife when she knew it had been over for the past 2 years.
And why did she file first? What did Jon do over the weekend? Probably nothing, from what I read, he was home with his kids celebrating Father's Day. Maybe he said something inappropriate about the divorce to the kids, but that is my speculation, not something I have read anywhere. She is grandstanding again to get the sympathy to her side.
All I can say is I wish them the best. I know from my own experience that divorce is not easy, especially with young kids. My boys were 2, 5 and 7 and yes, MY BOYS! My ex sent the check but had no time for them, he was busy dating and living the single life. His first vacation with them was when they were over 21, to Las Vegas to drink and go to strip shows. I hope Jon and Kate can be civil to each other for the children because in the end the children will remember everything.

 

[Epcot luvr]

Divorce papers say the couple have been living apart for at least 2 years.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/23/jon-kate-divorce-papers-l_n_219804.html

Kate Gosselin says in divorce papers that she and her husband Jon have lived "separate and apart" for at least two years. Gosselin filed for divorce Monday in Montgomery County Court in Pennsylvania, saying in papers that her 10-year marriage is "irretrievably broken."

The star of TLC's "Jon & Kate Plus 8" also says they have been unable to agree on dividing their assets.

The Gosselins had portrayed themselves as happy until the past few months, even renewing their wedding vows in Hawaii last year.

The divorce filing was obtained Tuesday by The Associated Press.

The series follows Jon and Kate Gosselin as they raise their eight young children, including 8-year-old twins and sextuplets who just turned 5.

I just got on the computer and I read this, I had to say OMG. Now I have to read all the follow up post. This actually shocked me, have to read all the thoughts.

 

[DreaGirl]

http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2009...about-jon-kate/



June 23, 2009, 6:44 pm
TLC President Talks About ‘Jon & Kate’
By Brian Stelter

Jon and Kate Gosselin are separating, but the show will still be named “Jon & Kate Plus 8.” Eileen O’Neill, the president of TLC, says there are no plans to change the title.

In an interview Tuesday afternoon, Ms. O’Neill addressed the network’s decision to put the program on hiatus for six weeks following Monday’s announcement that the couple would initiate divorce proceedings.

“It’s hard to walk away from a big number,” she said, acknowledging the record-breaking audience of 10.6 million viewers on Monday, “but it really made sense so that everyone could adjust to the new circumstances.”

Ms. O’Neill said she couldn’t comment on when she learned that the couple was splitting up.

“Once we understood that they were going to make an announcement, we discussed various scenarios with them,” she said. “We really collaborated on what would make sense for the family.”

Next Monday, a retrospective of the program will be shown. She said it will allow people to “catch up and remind themselves how this story really grew.”

TLC says the show will return from its break on August 3. Asked whether there is a chance it could be postponed further, Ms. O’Neill said she was “very confident” in the date.

Asked whether the show could be canceled, she said “that’s not in anyone’s mind.”

Ms. O’Neill said she didn’t have a “hard date” for when the Gosselins plan to resume filming the series.

When Ms. O’Neill moved to TLC about 11 months ago, she was tasked with turning around the ailing channel. By all accounts, she has done so quite successfully; in May, the channel was up 24 percent among total viewers compared to the same month last year.

Ms. O’Neill is credited with discovering the Gosselins when she worked at the Discovery Health Channel, so I wondered whether Ms. O’Neill had felt personally affected by the at-times-heartbreaking documentary of a fractured family.

“You can’t help but become invested in people that you’ve worked with for several years,” she said, calling the Gosselins “wonderful children and really smart parents.”

“It certainly has an impact on you,” she said.

It is unclear when Mr. and Ms. Gosselin informed their eight children about the separation. But one thing is clear: cameras were not present.

“We did not document family conversations,” Ms. O’Neill said, adding: “As they’ve said all along, certain matters are private, and we’ve respected that.”

With Mr. and Ms. Gosselin taking turns raising the children, how will the program change?

Ms. O’Neill said “we anticipate that the focus will remain on the parent-child relationship.”

She observed that the “dual couch conversations” — featuring the couple together answering questions from a producer off-camera — “are not anticipated.”

Noting the number of divorces that affect children in the United States, Ms. O’Neill said, “it’s not lost on us.”

 

[Epcot luvr]

Well the 2 year thing is in question, this sounds like things are getting ugly already. Jon is speakinf to ET, someone leaked the divorce info that is a sealed case as far as I have read. I am not sure if someone at the courthouse would risk their job in this economy to leak something. Did Kate's people leak it because Jon is talking to ET. In his statement he said emotions are high. I really hope they do not let this get out of control, the people who walk away with the money are the lawyers. E news daily has something come on now an exclusive from Kate.

 

[talulabelle]

Just my two cents: Jon said that "we bought the house" last night. Also how can they be living separate for two years when they went to Hawaii and renewed their vows. Okay I want my money back. I worked for a attorney, but it's been a while, and with children the couple have to be separate for a year before starting the divorce. But living separate means not in the same house. So I wonder if Kate says that they've been living separate for two years so she can hurry up the divorce papers.

I read somewhere where "living apart" on the paper she filed can mean separate bedrooms for 2 years. I believe this. I doubt they have been intimate in 2 years. Extremely sad that they had a vow renewal complete with wedding cake covered in Bible verses if this is true! If they haven't been apart for 2 years, then that makes Kate a liar on an official document. Hmmm, either way, Kate looks like an idiot.

 

[Epcot luvr]

Latest right now on E news daily,the straw that broke camels back is , zip, nothing, they had nothing. Same stuff posted here today.

 

[Family Fun Mom]

Everyone keeps stating how worried they are about the kids and how their lives are ruined, etc. Am I the only one who thinks they will be just fine for the most part? The kids have each other and even though I am sure they know something is going on with their parents, they still appear to be very happy and well adjusted. I think as long as both parents remain a part of their lives, they will continue to be well adjusted.

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I don't think those kids would have been well adjusted if their parents had stayed together, the divorce is just going to make it all even worse.

But who cares about that... I'm more interested in your profile picture. Is that you with Jonathan Knight????? Did you meet him? Woooo hooo! How exciting! I'm going to see the New Kids on Thursday and I cannot wait!

 

[LoraJ]

I don't get all the outrage over the televised announcement of the divorce. There was so much criticism when people were calling them a farce pretending to be happy and together on the show. Now they come public with their decision and they get criticized. What were they supposed to do? Continue to pretend? They just can't win!