Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 5

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I think their marriage has been over for a long, long time --possibly even when they did the vow renewal in Hawaii. (as has been discussed here many times) The move to the new house may have been made because the master was downstairs and out of the way of the kids bedrooms and there was also the apartment over the garage where jon could live. Remember the big production Kate made of the kids taking a look at the room because that was the last time they would see/be in it, she went on about them not being allowed to just barge in "their" bedroom, that they needed to knock? Maybe that was so the kids wouldn't know that Jon and Kate were no longer together, no longer sharing a bed.

Yes. I think you're right about this. Even if they just had separate beds in that biiiigggg master bedroom. Then there was a couple of times when Kate said something like: "I told you to put it in my bedroom, I mean our bedroom"

You just have to wonder. :confused3
 
What a strangely worded article that is. There was a lot of "I heard from someone who heard" and "I'm friends with some of her friends" going on. Not to say it isn't true; it just seems very...conversational, like how you would recount a story to a girlfriend instead of an actual article.

I just can't get past the fact that she's the daughter of the guy who did Kate's tummy tuck. What a slap in the face! Seriously? He couldn't find ANYONE else to skank around with?
 

After seeing the latest pics, I think Jon most definitely cheated, but that really doesn't matter. What matters now is him not thinking of his children or putting them first. How about giving them time to adjust to mommy & daddy getting divorced before being photographed holding the hand of another woman?

I remember when my parents divorced and my mother introducing me to her boyfriend all within one week. Parents seperating or divorcing is painful enough without adding some else to the mix. Odds are that Mady & Cara have seen the photos of him holding this girl's hand or heard about it. It is just incredibly selfish to even take the chance. But Jon is all about being Jon.

I still don't think he "cheated" with Deanna. I think they have been apart a long time. What he is doing now with the chickies is about the next worst thing he could do to his kids. The worst being, of course, continuing to film those kids for a tv show. And yes, my gimmer of hope for him went away when I saw the pics with Hailey. He's gone. I wish someone would put the kids first for once.
 
You know I used to feel a little sorry for Jon, not alot, but a little. Kate was bossy, she had a quick temper and she yelled alot. Even still I felt Jon was an adult and if it was a problem he should deal with it.

However now, I'm really thinking Jon was probably like my BIL, one of those guys you have to ask to do something 10 times, one of those guys who doesn't just DO stuff, you have to tell them what to do, otherwise they just sit there. My sister is not as bad as Kate, but her DH would sit on the couch all day if she didn't tell him to mow the lawn five times. He is just one of those kind of people that needs alot of direction. From the outside it probably seems like my sister yells at him alot, but over the years I see how it's almost a necessity, otherwise he would never do anything. Their relationship isn't like Jon and Kate's, but they also don't have eight kids. Maybe Kate took charge because she had to. Maybe she learned if she didn't yell at Jon he didn't do things. It's obvious Kate can be a really shrew at times, but I just don't believe living with Jon was any picnic either. KWIM?
 
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Maybe Kate took charge because she had to. Maybe she learned if she didn't yell at Jon he didn't do things. It's obvious Kate can be a really shrew at times, but I just don't believe living with Jon was any picnic either. KWIM?

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Especially with the teriffic responsibility of 8 children, 6 of whom had tough beginnings. We have to remember that TLC edited their footage, too. Maybe she had asked him to do something 10 times before the "helloooooo."

I have lost every ounce of respect I ever had for Jon. :sad2:
 
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I still don't think he "cheated" with Deanna. I think they have been apart a long time. What he is doing now with the chickies is about the next worst thing he could do to his kids. The worst being, of course, continuing to film those kids for a tv show. And yes, my gimmer of hope for him went away when I saw the pics with Hailey. He's gone. I wish someone would put the kids first for once.


I agree with your last statement of hope that they could work it out.
But I have a feeling that Jon cheated with Deanna. Kate said in the People magazine, that Deanna's name was mentioned a few times, and she started seeing red flags. I think any wife will know in her gut the truth, they just have to believe what their instincts are telling them.
 
I just had a thought.

Assuming that Kate isn't thrilled about Jon's trip to France, I wonder what things will be like when he returns to filming today?
 
Isn't Jon due back at the kids house today? Wonder if he brought the kids gifts from the trip?
 
Remember back when they had the birthday party and I wondered why Jon was wearing an IU t-shirt. I think I found my answer.

It seems Jons new girlfriend was an IU student. Nice way to rub it in without saying a word.

I just thought of that yesterday too. What a jerk! :sad2:
 
Wow, have missed so much! Look what happens when you don't DIS for a while! LOL!

Jon probably got the Ed Hardy clothes from the salvation army--you know when they use to shop their all the time before they started getting brand new, matching outfits, appliances, furniture, trips, cars, motorcycles directly from the manufacturers and show sponsors.

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I can only speak for myself, but if I had that many kids and a hubby who seemed to be out of work a lot and a company offered to clothe me and my family for a bit of free advertising I'd be tempted! Would it really make them better people if they still shopped in SA? As has been said before these companies do this because it's beneficial to them - they give away freebies to anyone on TV or semi famous!

Well, this is interesting if it's true...

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...mors-about-kate-and-her-bodyguard-says-source

EXCLUSIVE: Jon Gosselin Started The Rumors About Kate And Her Bodyguard, Says SourceEXCLUSIVE: Jon Gosselin Started The Rumors About Kate And Her Bodyguard, Says Source
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Posted on Jul 09, 2009 @ 02:35PM
Jon Gosselin intentionally started the rumors that his now-estranged wife was having an affair with their bodyguard Steve Neild, a well-placed insider has told RadarOnline.com.

“Jon wanted a divorce and he also wanted to throw attention away from himself, so he spread that rumor,” the source said. “Jon doesn’t like Steve so he didn’t care about the repercussions.”

Kate ended being the one who filed for divorce on June 22. “She didn’t want to, and in fact on the day the papers went in, Kate was with her attorney crying and sobbing. She was very, very upset,” the source added.

“Kate definitely did not want the divorce. She did it because she felt she had to protect herself.”

Steve, who is married, hasn’t been publically seen with Kate for several weeks although RadarOnline.com has learned he is still a “consultant” on the family’s security issues.

Kate has recently been travelling with another of the bodyguards. She arrived in Los Angeles on July 6 and stayed at the Hotel Bel-Air, where she was spotted relaxing by the pool. On Wednesday, Kate had a business lunch with two women at the hotel, before taking a car to the Warner Brothers lot in Burbank. She took in a two-hour meeting and then returned to her posh hotel. She returned home to PA on Thursday.

Speculation is rampant that Kate is actively pursuing several options to further her career as a TV personality and author. New episodes of “Jon & Kate Plus 8” are scheduled to return on TLC August 3.

It does make sense especially since there has been no other kind of speculation re Kate or a boyfriend. After Jon's recent behaviour I wouldn't put it past him. Wonder how Kevin & Jodi feel after being played?

After seeing the latest pics, I think Jon most definitely cheated, but that really doesn't matter. What matters now is him not thinking of his children or putting them first. How about giving them time to adjust to mommy & daddy getting divorced before being photographed holding the hand of another woman?

I remember when my parents divorced and my mother introducing me to her boyfriend all within one week. Parents seperating or divorcing is painful enough without adding some else to the mix. Odds are that Mady & Cara have seen the photos of him holding this girl's hand or heard about it. It is just incredibly selfish to even take the chance. But Jon is all about being Jon.

The evidence does seem to lead you to believe he did cheat, and I find that really sad - I really didn't want to believe it.

He really does seem to be a really immature individual who has lost his sense of what it is to be a father.


Wow, now there's a really Klassy Lassie! :scared1:

You know I used to feel a little sorry for Jon, not alot, but a little. Kate was bossy, she had a quick temper and she yelled alot. Even still I felt Jon was an adult and if it was a problem he should deal with it.

However now, I'm really thinking Jon was probably like my BIL, one of those guys you have to ask to do something 10 times, one of those guys who doesn't just DO stuff, you have to tell them what to do, otherwise they just sit there. My sister is not as bad as Kate, but her DH would sit on the couch all day if she didn't tell him to mow the lawn five times. He is just one of those kind of people that needs alot of direction. From the outside it probably seems like my sister yells at him alot, but over the years I see how it's almost a necessity, otherwise he would never do anything. Their relationship isn't like Jon and Kate's, but they also don't have eight kids. Maybe Kate took charge because she had to. Maybe she learned if she didn't yell at Jon he didn't do things. It's obvious Kate can be a really shrew at times, but I just don't believe living with Jon was any picnic either. KWIM?

ITA! I'm seeing a totally different side to Jon than was portrayed on the show - makes you wonder just what the editing was like. Did he behave a bit like that and they just cut it as it didn't fit with the 'show' and the characters they had cast them in. Kate definately seems to be more mature.

This is a huge change in character and behaviour from what we saw on the show, you wouldn't believe it was the same person.

I agree with your last statement of hope that they could work it out.
But I have a feeling that Jon cheated with Deanna. Kate said in the People magazine, that Deanna's name was mentioned a few times, and she started seeing red flags. I think any wife will know in her gut the truth, they just have to believe what their instincts are telling them.

I feel the same.
 
I guess I have a different take on this girl then everyone else does. I am a mother of 3 who may have a glass of wine once a week and I stay at home and read the dis board.LOL So as you can see I am not wild by any means.LOL
When I was in highschool and my early 20's I was a wild child. I did somethings that I would not want posted all over the world. I was lucky and did not have any pictures of me taken to posted. I am a different person now then I was then and I am no way proud of the things that I did but I was a kid and that is how I look at her. She is a selfish kid who longs for attention just like I did. I know that there were some people married with kids by that age and had a lot of responsibility but that does not change the fact that they were just kids also.
Who knows how this girl is going to be when she is in her 30's, she could be a staight arrow like me. I just hate that so many people are saying how bad she is and what a loser she is. Right now she is acting like one but who knows what she will be like in the future.
Now with that said I still would not want her around my kids. but I think people should be focusing more on Jon and Kate and not some 22 year old kid. Plus everything that has been written about her has been from a friend of a friend of a friend.LOL I guess I just see it differently then most.
 
I guess I have a different take on this girl then everyone else does. I am a mother of 3 who may have a glass of wine once a week and I stay at home and read the dis board.LOL So as you can see I am not wild by any means.LOL
When I was in highschool and my early 20's I was a wild child. I did somethings that I would not want posted all over the world. I was lucky and did not have any pictures of me taken to posted. I am a different person now then I was then and I am no way proud of the things that I did but I was a kid and that is how I look at her. She is a selfish kid who longs for attention just like I did. I know that there were some people married with kids by that age and had a lot of responsibility but that does not change the fact that they were just kids also.
Who knows how this girl is going to be when she is in her 30's, she could be a staight arrow like me. I just hate that so many people are saying how bad she is and what a loser she is. Right now she is acting like one but who knows what she will be like in the future.
Now with that said I still would not want her around my kids. but I think people should be focusing more on Jon and Kate and not some 22 year old kid. Plus everything that has been written about her has been from a friend of a friend of a friend.LOL I guess I just see it differently then most.


I agreee with you. She is young and has a lot of growing up to do.

She is not at the same point in her life as Jon. Whether he wants to admit it or not, his :banana: days are over. He has 8 children to think about, and is acting like a spoiled, selfish teen. This girl is not going to provide the stability that his children will need. Sometimes parents need to sacrifice for the good of their families.
 


From the article.....
Glassman -- whose father performed Kate's 2006 tummy tuck -- has tried out for MTV's Real World and Oxygen's Bad Girls Club.
"I think after realizing she had a connection to Jon through her father and that Jon and Kate's marriage was rocky, she saw an opportunity to get famous," one of Glassman's pals tells Us.

James Appleton, who describes himself as her "hookup friend," tells Us Glassman dropped him abruptly just before news of the pair broke.


"A couple days later a mutual friend was like, 'Oh hey, your girl Hailey is pretty famous. She's dating this older guy who has like eight kids,'" says Appleton, who met her during a 2007 spring break trip to Acapulco, Mexico.

Before leaving for St. Tropez, Glassman (who was arrested in 2005 for marijuana possession) changed her Facebook status to "In a relationship."



Classy girl. .... She has a "hookup friend" :sad2:
 
From the article.....
Glassman -- whose father performed Kate's 2006 tummy tuck -- has tried out for MTV's Real World and Oxygen's Bad Girls Club.
"I think after realizing she had a connection to Jon through her father and that Jon and Kate's marriage was rocky, she saw an opportunity to get famous," one of Glassman's pals tells Us.

James Appleton, who describes himself as her "hookup friend," tells Us Glassman dropped him abruptly just before news of the pair broke.


"A couple days later a mutual friend was like, 'Oh hey, your girl Hailey is pretty famous. She's dating this older guy who has like eight kids,'" says Appleton, who met her during a 2007 spring break trip to Acapulco, Mexico.

Before leaving for St. Tropez, Glassman (who was arrested in 2005 for marijuana possession) changed her Facebook status to "In a relationship."



Classy girl. .... She has a "hookup friend" :sad2:



He says he is her hookup friend. Do we have proof of that? Also the girl was arrested in 2005. She was a child doing what a lot of kids are doing and she got caught. I am not saying it is right but she was 18 years old. From what I hear on the news and from teachers,18 year old kids are doing a lot more then that. Who is to say it was not her first time trying it and she got caught. I love how people are looking down their nose at this girl. Those who were perfect in their teens and early 20's can throw the stones.
 
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