Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 5

[Mom2Nick]

For anyone who missed it:
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/08/kate-gosselin-cries-today-show-says-jon-dating-hailey-very-hurtful

My summary:
I'm a better parent than Jon, I do everything for my kids, and I don't remember when Jon moved out of the house.

Is this the beginning of a custody battle? Everything from the way that she was dressed to her demeanor (starting before the interview) was like saying "I'm the one who's been wronged here"

Oh geez - the UM's are REALLY bad. I find myself looking at her here and thinking this is all a show. Not genuine and real.

Honestly the ring thing is a joke IMO. I think the fact that their Dad is missing is more of a shock then Kate wearing or not wearing a piece of jewelry.

 

[kritter]

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/32332892/ns/today-today_entertainment/


The second part of the interview::

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/32356663#32357178

 

[redrosesix]

I prefer the "I'm going to do things I've never done before" attitude. This is national TV, not a conversation with her mother.

 

[Buckalew11]

I watched the interview this morning.
I felt like it was predictable and very safe. I also felt like she was carefully choosing her words and not putting anything out there that could be used against her. She didn't give details and, of course, "everything she does is for the kids and her well being."

It seemed to me that she is trying very hard to move forward and her memories of Jon may be very painful but that that is all there is--memories of what they once were. I think she really does believe "this divorce would have happened camera or no camera" and I tend to agree. The little I know of them together from TV, I do not think they were very compatable and their personalities very conflicting--2 people who probably bring out the worst in each other while creating beautiful, loving children. So sad.

She said there was no condo.

She didn't even know there were condos there when she had lunch downstairs. She's never, to this day, seen the inside of the condos.

There is no affair with Steve Neild. A bodyguard since the beginning of their having security. The families are good friends and remain very close.

And about Jon and Hailey--it was a shock and very sad to her but it is his life and he will do what he wants, this no longer affects her. It does, however, affacet the children and I think that part is very painful as the mom of 8 kids who will learn that all this has transpired. (If not today, someday.)

Her motto includes the words perserverance, integrity, and never give up. And I believe she is serious about all them--including never giving up the show w/o a fight. I think she will go down with that ship if it does, indeed, go down.
It is the way she makes a living and she sees nothing wrong with that. I have no idea if it harming the children or not. We'll have to see I guess.
She did say they'd all be going to college that they had substantial college savings for each that she'd made sure of that. I commend her for that as it was the right thing to do.

 

[madge]

Did anyone else watch Kate this morning? Her answers are such cliches and platitudes- why do the interview at all? I could have done it for her! She just recycled the same 10 pat phrases, excpet for this new one:
"To be very honest, I don't remember."

Really, Kate?

it was exactly as I thought it would be.

what did strike me was how different Kate's personality was between the 2 segments. she was very passive and rehearsed in the first segment, and was much more alert in the second segment. I thought some of what she had to say was interesting, but again, not unexpected. She was clear about no affair with Steve, and made sure to point out that she is close to his wife. But she bordered on defensive when speaking about the choices related to the show. She's not giving up on the publicity/fame anytime soon. That's very clear.

and it's still the realest reality show out there. right.

what time is Jon on E! ?

 

[DMRick]

For anyone who missed it:
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/08/kate-gosselin-cries-today-show-says-jon-dating-hailey-very-hurtful

My summary:
I'm a better parent than Jon, I do everything for my kids, and I don't remember when Jon moved out of the house.

Is this the beginning of a custody battle? Everything from the way that she was dressed to her demeanor (starting before the interview) was like saying "I'm the one who's been wronged here"

Interesting..I guess it depends on if you like her or not.

This is what I heard:
She denies saying she was done in October but she wll not give out details. When she said the vows in HI, she meant them. She feels failure. This isn't what a mom wants for her kids, but it it's necessary. There is more peace in the house. Jon and her had different goals. I don't remember just when he moved out..he was out a lot and back, and I just don't remember the timeline of when it was final. Nobody is perfect, including myself. It takes two to end a marriage, and I was one of the two. She appeared to take responsibility for her part. She doesn't know what she would change, because it's hard to go back. She says she did not have an affair with Steve and is friends with both him and his life.
I saw a woman who appeared to be sad and hurt, who said she still loves the Jon she used to know.
I didn't get the feeling she was saying she was a better parent, and I saw nothng wrong with how she was dressed.

 

[madge]

Oh geez - the UM's are REALLY bad. I find myself looking at her here and thinking this is all a show. Not genuine and real.

how she spoke in the first segment was EXACTLY the way she spoke in her paid appearance here. the tone of voice, the ums, all of it. very rehearsed. I felt like she was more believable in the second segment because of it. JMO.

 

[DMRick]

I should have just read yours and said . You did a better job of it than I did.

I watched the interview this morning.
I felt like it was predictable and very safe. I also felt like she was carefully choosing her words and not putting anything out there that could be used against her. She didn't give details and, of course, "everything she does is for the kids and her well being."

It seemed to me that she is trying very hard to move forward and her memories of Jon may be very painful but that that is all there is--memories of what they once were. I think she really does believe "this divorce would have happened camera or no camera" and I tend to agree. The little I know of them together from TV, I do not think they were very compatable and their personalities very conflicting--2 people who probably bring out the worst in each other while creating beautiful, loving children. So sad.

She said there was no condo.

She didn't even know there were condos there when she had lunch downstairs. She's never, to this day, seen the inside of the condos.

There is no affair with Steve Neild. A bodyguard since the beginning of their having security. The families are good friends and remain very close.

And about Jon and Hailey--it was a shock and very sad to her but it is his life and he will do what he wants, this no longer affects her. It does, however, affacet the children and I think that part is very painful as the mom of 8 kids who will learn that all this has transpired. (If not today, someday.)

Her motto includes the words perserverance, integrity, and never give up. And I believe she is serious about all them--including never giving up the show w/o a fight. I think she will go down with that ship if it does, indeed, go down.
It is the way she makes a living and she sees nothing wrong with that. I have no idea if it harming the children or not. We'll have to see I guess.
She did say they'd all be going to college that they had substantial college savings for each that she'd made sure of that. I commend her for that as it was the right thing to do.

 

[madge]

I didn't get the feeling she was saying she was a better parent, and I saw nothng wrong with how she was dressed.

I got the sense that Kate was definitely putting it out there that she's taking the high road... I didn't think she was giving off a subliminal message of being a better parent, although she was walking a fine line there. She made it clear that Jon's choices were affecting the children, but wouldn't elaborate. Her PR people are good. I've said that from the beginning. And not only are they good, Kate listens to them.

I thought she looked nice. Appropriate. The color suits her much more than the green dress she's so fond of.

 

[OhMari]

Jon's version of the "Republican response" after the President speaks.

How dumb, he is going up against his own show on TLC.

I'm convinced this was taped a few weeks ago.
Remember the day, Kate sat outside with that friend and they both had on black dresses. Also, Viera said, "your show is in "haitus" for a few weeks. And Kate shook her head yes. Then at the end of the show, Viera said, "J&K8 is on this evening at 9:00 p.m. EST on TLC.


There is no way those interviews were done live. These morning shows are just as bad as tabloid shows.

 

[DMRick]

And there is nothing wrong with taking the high road, IMO. It really doesn't matter what or how Kate says things...people will never allow it to just be her. If she doesn't respond she's hiding something. If she does, she is saying she is better than John. I don't happen to think Kate needs PR people. I think she is a strong woman, and thinks before she talks most of the time.

I got the sense that Kate was definitely putting it out there that she's taking the high road... I didn't think she was giving off a subliminal message of being a better parent, although she was walking a fine line there. She made it clear that Jon's choices were affecting the children, but wouldn't elaborate. Her PR people are good. I've said that from the beginning. And not only are they good, Kate listens to them.

I thought she looked nice. Appropriate. The color suits her much more than the green dress she's so fond of.

 

[DreaGirl]

What I found interesting was that when asked about Kevin and Jodi she said they were exploiting the children by going on television to talk about the show and the kids and going on a speaking circuit....isn't that what Kate is doing? She is going on talk shows and the speaking circuit talking about the kids.

 

[Buckalew11]

But they are her kids, it is her life, her story not Kevin and Jodi's. It is not their story. They are now estranged and they are still talking about Kate, Jon and the kids. It is none of their business. That's the difference, imho.

 

[southernbelle5672]

I thought it was very interesting that she said Jon's decisions don't affect her. How could they not?


Also, this is just something to think about it. What happens if and when Jon and Kate remarry? Will there new spouse be expected to travel back and forth to see the kids? Granted, I hope it's a long time coming but I could really see that being a problem.

 

[OhMari]

I thought it was very interesting that she said Jon's decisions don't affect her. How could they not?


Also, this is just something to think about it. What happens if and when Jon and Kate remarry? Will there new spouse be expected to travel back and forth to see the kids? Granted, I hope it's a long time coming but I could really see that being a problem.

I don't think Kate leaves the house when it is Jon's turn. She says she is "in hiding". Kate said it is her house and it is where she lives. She may go out with friends, but I'm betting she comes back home and goes to her room. Look how Jon hid the latest person from the garage loft. I betting Kate doesn't leave when it is Jon's turn to be with the kids.

 

[madge]

There is no way those interviews were done live. These morning shows are just as bad as tabloid shows.

I think it was live .. Meredith is wearing the same clothes in the interview as she did on today's show, LOL

And I did think it was odd she didn't know when Jon moved out. She knows, she's just not saying because it won't work with her timeline, IMO.

 

[madge]

But they are her kids, it is her life, her story not Kevin and Jodi's. It is not their story. They are now estranged and they are still talking about Kate, Jon and the kids. It is none of their business. That's the difference, imho.

It's always been said that Kate has never wanted anyone else making money off her kids .. that was the issue when Jodi left the show. Same holds true today.

I didn't agree with the decision when Kevin & Jodi were on the show. They should have been compensated, especially if (the big IF) TLC offered it to them. One of those things we'll never, ever truly know what happened.

Now, they should keep out of it.

 

[madge]

And there is nothing wrong with taking the high road, IMO.

absolutely. I think that it is the right decision, under the many circumstances Kate is facing right now. Actually, it's always better to take the high road, no matter who you are. LOL.

It really doesn't matter what or how Kate says things...people will never allow it to just be her. If she doesn't respond she's hiding something. If she does, she is saying she is better than John. I don't happen to think Kate needs PR people. I think she is a strong woman, and thinks before she talks most of the time.

I think that it's wise to use PR people, and if not PR people .. someone to guide you in what to say, so you don't contradict yourself, to remain calm and focused on what needs to be said and what doesn't, help make clear points. It is possible that Kate learned enough from her public speaking engagements that she could discern what needs to be said or not said and how questions should be answered. This has been an emotional roller coaster for Kate, though ... I don't think it's inappropriate or wrong to get support or help from speaking professionals.

 

[MAKmom]

Oh geez - the UM's are REALLY bad. I find myself looking at her here and thinking this is all a show. Not genuine and real.

Honestly the ring thing is a joke IMO. I think the fact that their Dad is missing is more of a shock then Kate wearing or not wearing a piece of jewelry.

Taking the ring off really freaks kids out. My DH & I separated for a few weeks when my children were small & I had to keep my ring on. I know women who wear the rings a long time after a divorce for the kids. I think they think well mom still loves dad...maybe it still gives them hope. I'm not sure but it is too soon for her to stop wearing it IMO

 

[mistydoodles]

I don't think Kate leaves the house when it is Jon's turn. She says she is "in hiding". Kate said it is her house and it is where she lives. She may go out with friends, but I'm betting she comes back home and goes to her room. Look how Jon hid the latest person from the garage loft. I betting Kate doesn't leave when it is Jon's turn to be with the kids.

I think you might be right. Who was in the house with the kids when Jon went to the bar to pick up the Nanny that he ended up taking back to his room above the garage?

You would think that if Kate was gone he would stay in the main house with the kids. I can't see them being in the house all by themselves.