Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 5

[madge]

I have no idea why Jon did that. I don't know what precipitated it. There is so much I don't know..everything is part of something, but we don't get to see the whole. I have no idea why he started signing and handing out pictures. I wish I could ask him. Was he furious at something TLC told him and he was getting even by going to the paparazzi? Had he learned Kate was beating him to the punch and filing? Had he invited friends to the house and TLC said no, not today? Had Kate just called him and told him he was an idiot? No idea.

that's a very valid point, we don't (and won't) know. and even that video, where Jon is in the yard, is edited by radar online.

Jon's stock answer has been "watch the show" ever since he went to see the media specialist in NYC some weeks ago. It's clear to me that Jon & Kate/TLC were going to have this whole thing play out on the show. Of course Jon is glad to have the show to tell their story. The more people that watch, the more money they all make.

 

[Nicolepa]

I think the reason Kate filed on Monday is financial. I think she is concerned that Jon will continue to spend marital assets and make marital committments (ie apartment lease in NY) which will obligate her. She needed to put a stop to it - and typically marital assets and obligations will be measured as of the date of separation (not sure how it works in PA).

But she made sure she bought herself a new $70K car before she filed....

 

[DMRick]

But she made sure she bought herself a new $70K car before she filed....

So we know it wasn't a placement or a rental?

 

[JennaTX]

Getting caught up around here is crazy!!!

The new Jodi and Kevin interview, I found very ironic. They are upset about J&K annoucning their seperation on tv...but they had no problem talking about what is going on, probably for a fee.

As a woman, I have been very surprised by the responses from other women here on the DIS. I think this was brought up in the last thread, but if a woman posted here about her husband cheating on her ( or if not cheating...being out a bar at 2:00 am with another woman) women would be telling her to change the locks, take the money out of the bank, protect yourself and your children.

But I see so many who think that Kate almost deserves what she has gotten.

I am a "witch" like Kate can be. But my goodness can you imagine the first two years? I really can't. What I can imagine is being stressed, confused, millions of thoughts going through my head about how I could do what I needed to do for my children.

Also, sure Jon was young when they got married, and like Kate they had a huge family and he didn't deal well with it either.

I doubt anyone could look back 3-4 years in a marriage with young children and say they did everything right.

But it is the here and now. Jon is being linked with at least two young girls, he is renting a 1 bedroom apartment in NY, ears pierced (yuck, IMO), he continues to talk about his "new" life. I would really like to know why those that think Jon is in the right, and why they feel that way? (And I mean that without being snarky at all!)

 

[disneymarie]

But she made sure she bought herself a new $70K car before she filed....

HLN reporting the paper work filed, Kate says they did not live together the last two years...I wonder if she means in the cohabiting sense, or literal?

Anything bought after the seperation is not in the marital property. I hope they follow through as the kids keeping lives in the house and parents move about.

I really think a big thing was reveling when Jon said, I am only 32 and a whole new chapter in my life has opened up.
Jon was on camera and at any time had the oppertunity to act like a husband and not a college son in their marriage.

I am begining to see why Kate had to be controling, as Jon was all about the fun and games, and minimal input unless led. Only when the millions of viewers were into his plight did he grow a set to say, I am going to live my life as I want, and kate could live hers.

He said how their issues were a private mater when he went into this with lighting and cameras recording it all.
The money, being noticeable the toys for him all went to his head...and Kates.

She will keep a tight ship to protect the kids from jon's friends. I was ready to blow up when he said last week about the hanging with the guys and everyone knew he had female friends.

I pray he has to get a real job and provide support. I am glad the show is on hiatus. I bet that TLC did not know until he got in front of the camera what he would say.
Jon needs to be out, maybe an unpaid cameo as he takes the kids to grandmas for Thanksgiving noon time or something.

The real personality is out there now and I do not like it, he is a smart a$$, not a father, except by donating the sperm. Otherwise he would have grown up a heck of long time ago and not needed Kate to raise him too; If he could not find a job, he could have had a consulting one from home....

I am done watching unless the format changes to a yearly update to the birthday, first day of kindergarten, twins in middle school etc.
I do not want to see all the toys they have that even my community would not have had donated.

They should have said we will have one crazy house and donate one to Ronald McDonald at Hershey. Far too much GREED.

Sorry I had to rant, I just was so po'd with the smart alec I have such a good life to happen, instead of remorse, counseling wanted, forgiveness for the kids....
They need the Nanny, doctor Phil, and their Pastor.
I am done,
di

 

[Mermaid02]

At work yesterday everyone was talking about what a witch Kate is and I didn't say much until someone said, "She drove him to have an affair" That really burned my biscuits. Nobody can DRIVE someone to have an affair. It's a choice that an individual makes- blaming Kate for Jon's infidelity is ridiculous and disgusting. Jon wants the "childhood" he feels he was cheated out of by marrying young (whose fault was that?) and having children young (again- partially his doing)

Sorry "dude" there are no do overs in life- you're screwing up big time.Take out the earrings, forget about a high rise in NYC- get a small place in town so you can easily attend your kids school functions- be around when they are sick and get to know their friends- especially as they get older. You have EIGHT kids- act like a grown up!

 

[DreaGirl]

Kate will be on the Today show this morning. "She will talk about how they told the kids they were divorcing and how it is too painful to take off her wedding ring."

 

[Dr_Finkelstein]

http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/23/jon-and-kate...-are-deceiving/

QUOTE
Jon & Kate Divorce Papers are Deceiving

Posted Jun 23rd 2009 6:00PM by TMZ Staff

There's a report floating out there that Kate Gosselin has been separated from Jon for two years. That's not true, and we have the lowdown.

We now know what Kate checked on the divorce papers, which are confidential. There are two grounds for a no fault divorce in Pennsylvania -- the first is waiting 90 days after the papers have been served. Then, if both Jon and Kate agree the marriage is "irretrievably broken" ... the divorce can proceed.

And there's a second option -- that they have lived separate and apart for 2 years. But that doesn't mean they have been separated for that long. It means she must wait 2 years from the moment she considered the marriage kaput and began living separately (if only in different bedrooms). We're told the real separation between Jon and Kate is very recent and Kate checked the box just to get the clock ticking.

We found out Kate checked both boxes, and here's why. Jon may not agree that the marriage is irretrievably broken. If that's the case she has to wait the two years. So by checking both boxes, Kate is hedging her bets.

Ultimately, she would have to prove to the judge when she considered herself separate from Jon.

Did everyone miss this? I thought this was a great article that thoroughly explained everything!

It makes complete sense to me, as going by the older episodes, which are all we can see over here at the moment, J&K are very affectionate with one another.

I think the separation was recent, and the vow renewal was an attempt to get the marriage back on track so to speak, as they were obviously aware they were in a bit of a rocky patch at that time. From the previous threads, it seems that was when there seemed to be 'more issues' with them as a couple.

 

[DisneyFreaks]

At work yesterday everyone was talking about what a witch Kate is and I didn't say much until someone said, "She drove him to have an affair" That really burned my biscuits. Nobody can DRIVE someone to have an affair. It's a choice that an individual makes- blaming Kate for Jon's infidelity is ridiculous and disgusting. Jon wants the "childhood" he feels he was cheated out of by marrying young (whose fault was that?) and having children young (again- partially his doing)
Sorry "dude" there are no do overs in life- you're screwing up big time.Take out the earrings, forget about a high rise in NYC- get a small place in town so you can easily attend your kids school functions- be around when they are sick and get to know their friends- especially as they get older. You have EIGHT kids- act like a grown up!

Oh my gosh! I couldn't have said this any better. Exactly how I feel about this whole scenario. If Jon is so darn concerned about his children why is he relocating to NYC?

 

[1stluvispooh]

that's a very valid point, we don't (and won't) know. and even that video, where Jon is in the yard, is edited by radar online.

Jon's stock answer has been "watch the show" ever since he went to see the media specialist in NYC some weeks ago. It's clear to me that Jon & Kate/TLC were going to have this whole thing play out on the show. Of course Jon is glad to have the show to tell their story. The more people that watch, the more money they all make.

You forgot to add: the more people Jon may have "on his side"

 

[Gabes_mommy]

I was just checking out some pictures of Kate picking up her new car and I have to give it to her - she looks great. She has come a long way with her appearance since the sextuplets were born. I love the Land Cruiser too.

http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/celebrities/hollywood/kate-gosselin-picks-up-her-new-ride-214841/

 

[1stluvispooh]

At work yesterday everyone was talking about what a witch Kate is and I didn't say much until someone said, "She drove him to have an affair" That really burned my biscuits. Nobody can DRIVE someone to have an affair. It's a choice that an individual makes- blaming Kate for Jon's infidelity is ridiculous and disgusting. Jon wants the "childhood" he feels he was cheated out of by marrying young (whose fault was that?) and having children young (again- partially his doing)

Sorry "dude" there are no do overs in life- you're screwing up big time.Take out the earrings, forget about a high rise in NYC- get a small place in town so you can easily attend your kids school functions- be around when they are sick and get to know their friends- especially as they get older. You have EIGHT kids- act like a grown up!

Do she didn't but she did nothing to affair proof her marriage. Lets face it people have affairs because of how the other person, the one you are having the affair with, makes you feel. Also we don't know for sure if Jon had an affair we just know he was out until 2:00 am and let some woman drive his car.

 

[Buckalew11]

There's an idea! And about being stuck next door to each other--I meant that they would rotate out (like some houseparents do for organizations.)When Jon was there, Kate would leave the home go to her efficiency apartment at another location, and vice versa. Basically rather than expecting the kids to pack up and go visit whomever every other weekend, summer, and holiday, (or whatever the court decrees) the parents would rotate in and out of the house.
The plus would be this plan would be far less disruption for the kids.

I thought this was their plan. The kids stay put and they rotate. Seems to me they have been doing this for quite some time anyway.

Do she didn't but she did nothing to affair proof her marriage. Lets face it people have affairs because of how the other person, the one you are having the affair with, makes you feel. Also we don't know for sure if Jon had an affair we just know he was out until 2:00 am and let some woman drive his car.

I totally agree with this.

 

[DreaGirl]

New 'Jon & Kate Plus 8' episodes will include Jon Gosselin's new girlfriend


http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/06/24/2009-06-24_new_jon_and_kate_plus_.html

 

[DreaGirl]

Video link from the Today show. It was actually the People mag editor and not Kate. Kate did an interview for People mag and it will be out on Thursday.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/31522364#31522364

 

[Gabes_mommy]

New 'Jon & Kate Plus 8' episodes will include Jon Gosselin's new girlfriend


http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/06/24/2009-06-24_new_jon_and_kate_plus_.html

I hope that's not true. Although maybe the people who still doubt that Jon had affair will finally believe it when the mistress shows up on the show.

 

[Buckalew11]

New 'Jon & Kate Plus 8' episodes will include Jon Gosselin's new girlfriend


http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/06/24/2009-06-24_new_jon_and_kate_plus_.html

Hmm...I wonder if they'll just show her with him or if she'll interact with the kids etc. If she is, I'll quit watching. Jon having girlfriends is really too much for me. I'd be sick thinking about another woman playing a mom-type role to my child and I don't want to see it played out on TV with the Gosselin's either. The thought makes me sick to my stomach.
While I know that's part of life and divorce, I'm just not going to watch it.

Maybe if they keep filming and time heals and Jon grows up and kate meets someone who she doesn't walk all over and they were in healthy relationships, I'd watch. But for now, gfs on the show are too much for me.

 

[Disneynut5]

New 'Jon & Kate Plus 8' episodes will include Jon Gosselin's new girlfriend


http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/06/24/2009-06-24_new_jon_and_kate_plus_.html

I am disgusted! I will never watch this show again! Poor Kate!

 

[DreaGirl]

Not sure if I can post this link because it contains religious language. Please edit if I'm not allowed to post.

Jon & Kate Gosselin: A Family Tragedy Times Eight

http://www.crosswalk.com/blogs/abanes/11605156/

 

[Eeyore'sthebest]

New 'Jon & Kate Plus 8' episodes will include Jon Gosselin's new girlfriend


http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/06/24/2009-06-24_new_jon_and_kate_plus_.html

I can't read the link (darn work filters) but if this is the case that's ridiculous. And if he brings the girlfriends around the house where I would imagine Kate will make her primary residence then I can see the "house sharing" arrangement going out the window. No way would I let another woman live in my home on weekends. Of course, this is all just my speculation.