Joe the plumber

[akhenaten]

Are there any negatives, in your opinon, to socialism?

this is not about socialism.....
though you would like to make it so.....
distraction, perhaps.........

 

[bsnyder]

this is not about socialism.....
though you would like to make it so.....
distraction, perhaps.........

So what do you call raising taxes on "the rich" and giving that money to people who don't pay any taxes?

 

[Geoff_M]

But wouldn't he need a master plumbing license or contractor license to operate the company and be bonded?

It appears that you don't need a license to do common residential plumbing work in Ohio. If you're not going to work as a plumbing contractor on construction projects, there's no need of a license.

 

[akhenaten]

So what do you call raising taxes on "the rich" and giving that money to people who don't pay any taxes?

i call that welfare.. perhaps.... which we already have ...

not scary...not "socialism"

(now a discussionabout the use or abuse of the welfare system is an issue for another thread)

have you read the buffet article??
or are you just pushing forth your own agenda (distraction).

 

[Chuck S]

It appears that you don't need a license to do common residential plumbing work in Ohio. If you're not going to work as a plumbing contractor on construction projects, there's no need of a license.

That's just scary How would you know if the plumber you hire has any idea how to even fix your problem?

 

[bsnyder]

i call that welfare.. perhaps.... which we already have ...

not scary...not "socialism"

(now a discussionabout the use or abuse of the welfare system is an issue for another thread)

have you read the buffet article??
or are you just pushing forth your own agenda (distraction).

Okay, then, let's call it welfare. Should there be any limits on welfare? What's so special about a 39% rate? Why not 45%? Or 35% What makes that particular number the magic one?

 

[*Robin*]

Sorry, didn't mean to be so cryptic!

Robin said that Obama claims he didn't even know the cameras were there.

mrsv98 responds by saying how could Joe not know the camera were there?

Get it now?

Duh...I'm a dork. Now I get it...and yes...how could ANY of them not know the cameras were there.

Thing is, when you walk away from main area and you think the cameras are no longer interested, you just say what's really on your mind, I guess, huh? Maybe old Joe was a plant, and he bought his house right there on that street, just so one day he could show the country what the media didn't want the country to see.

Good for Good Ol' Joe! Bless his heart for taking one for his country!

 

[akhenaten]

Okay, then, let's call it welfare. Should there be any limits on welfare? What's so special about a 39% rate? Why not 45%? Or 35% What makes that particular number the magic one?

lowering taxes for the middle cass is not welfare.....

 

[Jennasis]

So what do you call raising taxes on "the rich" and giving that money to people who don't pay any taxes?

Hoodism?

 

[bsnyder]

lowering taxes for the middle cass is not welfare.....

You left out the other half of the equation - raising taxes to a 39% rate for some. You're the one that called it welfare, not me. I'm just wondering why you think that 39% is the correct rate? Why not something higher? Or lower?

 

[robinb]

That's just scary How would you know if the plumber you hire has any idea how to even fix your problem?

 

[a1tinkfans]

Also Joe has stated currently he's in no position to purchase the pluming company


I’ve never understood these political examples of the everyday American ….in today’s economy the average American is concerned about keeping their job not buying a company

IMHO ???????????

BUT, Thats what SMALL BUSINESSES do though, they EMPLOYEE people and Hitting them with HEAVIER TAXES does ONE thing, it forces lay offs which helps NO ONE! WHY SHOULD THE BURDEN BE ON A SMALL BUSINESS?? WHY SHOULDN'T FREE ENTERPRISE, ENTREPRENEURS AND HARD WORKING EVERYDAY people that "made it" have a CHANCE to GROW the economy by HIRING MORE everyday people without the additional burden of EXTRA taxes?
Walk thru your own town and see the small stores everywhere? They employee people, usually LOCALS.
(And by the way, maybe we should remind Biden that the diner he referenced WENT OUT OF BUSINESS 20 YEARS AGO, so I guess he really DIDN'T eat there a few months ago, DISGUSTING SHAMEFUL LIE!)
I really don't know many small businesses that make under 250K.

I thought OBAMA had it RIGHT last night, when he said HE didn't MIND paying more taxes. He certainly seems to have the Money so MAYBE he could pay extra for ALL the small businesses too!
Seriously though....

Spreading the wealth is JUST that, LET ME WORK FOR ALL OF YOU, even those 53,000,000 that Pay NO TAXES but under Obamas plan they will ALL get >>>>>>>>>>> a HAND OUT (he says its a rebate!)
A FREE HANDOUT is NOT a rebate. You "bought" something, you "work for" something" ...a "REBATE" is something EARNED, not GIVEN!!

How does He PAY for this???
You INCREASE TAXES, even Clinton had a TAX INCREASE after saying he would NOT, HE HAD TOO....

DOES YOUR FAMILY LIVE UNDER SOME TYPE OF BUDGET?
Have you cut back on ANYTHING to cut corners?
WOULD YOU THEN ..........
SPEND MORE AND GIVE $ AWAY WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE IT?
Of course NOT!!
SO WHY SHOULD THE GOV'T NOT ONLY SPEND $$$, BUT THEN TAX US to PAY FOR THAT SPENDING???
WHY SHOULDN'T THE GOV'T HAVE A SPENDING FREEZE, CUT THE GARBAGE OUT, REFORM! REFORM! REFORM!
No one wants to see people hurting, NO side does, so the question is
DO WE SPEND MORE AND TAX MORE and Give Gov't MORE POWER over us
OR
HELP OUT those that DESERVE it and REFORM GOV'T SPENDING, making it CLEAR as to WHERE OUR $$$$ is GOING.
YOUR CHOICE,
TAX AND SPEND vs FREEZE and REFORM!

Go Out and VOTE!

 

[bsnyder]

Hoodism?

I think a photoshop of Obama in that picture would be priceless. Although some might call it racist.

 

[Jennasis]

Can't help you...I'm photo shop challeneged ;-)

 

[akhenaten]

You left out the other half of the equation - raising taxes to a 39% rate for some. You're the one that called it welfare, not me. I'm just wondering why you think that 39% is the correct rate? Why not something higher? Or lower?

no you are twisting our conversation... lol
I was pointing out that we already "redistribute" wealth in our country and it is not socialism!!

like i said read warren buffets opinion on the current tax structure...

I also read a great post on the dis by a business owner who would be taxed and they said that the extra tax would not be bad ..since the middle class would be geting a tax break and then would spend more...
interesting .. how that would work....

But if you prefer to continue with the politics of fear by associating obama with socialism... nothing i say will stop you...

as my nephew would say.. peace out...

 

[akhenaten]

Thanks for the link robinb.

I am glad I finally got to see the full video of "Joe"'s conversation with Obama instead of just a small clip.
I think Obama gave "Joe " a very informed answer.

Even though Obama did use the words "spread the wealth around" I think of the 4% proposed tax increase for those of us making over $250,000 a year as a why to help make the middle class stronger so the middle class can make more puchases ....thus helping to grow businesses.

If paying a 4% increase (39% instead of 35% which was the amount we paid before the Buch tax cut) will the middle class get a tax cut and help our economy grow stronger than we will be willing to pay it.

I know a lot of families here in Michigan that could a tax cut.

Just my 2 cents.

here it is...

 

[mickey2000]

I think a photoshop of Obama in that picture would be priceless. Although some might call it racist.

I like these !

 

[akhenaten]

ah errol flynn
now he was handsome....

 

[akhenaten]

i have a 'plumber' that looks just like that!!
and all this time I just thought she was a mouser!!!

 

[mickey2000]