Is "Pro Choice" Actually "Pro Abortion?"

[Master Mason]

So you are saying that you are "in favor" of people puking and eating it and feeding poop to their cats? Seriously--you go around saying things like that?

I just don't think that is how we actually use the words in everyday life. If it were, then you wouldn't have a problem going around telling people (say your boss, coworkers, clients, customers, etc) "I am pro people puking and eating it" or "I am in favor of people cheating on their girlfriends with their brothers in the girlfriend's bed while she is in the hospital having a double mastectomy."

Do you honestly think if you said that, then people would take you to mean "I think these actions are bad and I wish they never occurred. But I simply think that the govt has no right to make a law banning them." Or do you think those people would just say, "What a sick **** that guy is. How can you think it's a good think to cheat on your girlfriend like that!?"

And again, I didn't make up the definition, or design the english language.

I don't know how old you are, but I am old enough to remember when people used to have rallies and hold up signs claiming themselves to be pro abortion. That didn't mean they were wanting everyone to get one, it meant they wanted it to be legal.

It is only in our PC society, where everyone wishes to sugar coat things, and come up with new phrases for things to make them sound nicer than they really are that we even have this discussion.

 

[djm99]

I find it funny that the main people screaming “socialism” and “Government get out of my business” (who are almost always Republicans) wants the government to tell a woman what she can do with her body. Again, I am pro-life, I’m just not a fanatic (on this issue). So, the next time we Pro-lifers find ourselves not wanting government in our homes, lives, and business - remember that women don't want government dictating their wombs. Just a thought!

 

[Cantw8]

So are you are pro-peeing on the bible, then?

huh? OK, if you want to be inane about this than YES...if YOU want to pee on the Bible, I will defend your right to do so YES, Bible peeing should be a choice also WTH?

 

[Master Mason]

Then "pro-life" is equally inaccurate in many cases. I know plenty of people who use that term to define themselves but they are more than happy to allow the state to execute prisoners or who support the war knowing it means that people will kill and be killed.

And I will agree with you on this 100%

 

[LotsOfQuestions]

No, pro-choice means that you are in favor of the woman making her own choices.

Pro-choice means that the government is not involved in medical decisions. It protects everybody, pro-choice and pro-lifers. Because if you the allow the government to start making decisions regarding a woman's uterus, you give permission to the government to make all decisions. What if the unlikely scenario would happen as it is in China where abortions are required when a couple with 1 child finds themself pregnant again. We never want to go down the road of giving our government power over the woman's uterus.

Pro-choice means that the woman is free to consult her pastor, rabbi, allah, buddha, the sun god, her partner, her doctor, her friend, her support system.

Pro-choice means that the woman can honor her belief system. For instance, I remember Jenny telling us during one of the umpteen abortion debates that abortion is very much allowed in Judaism under certain circumstances. Why should the religious belief of the Christian trump the Jewish belief?

Pro-choice means the decision lies with the mother and the medical profession , the people most qualified to make the medical decisions.

Pro-choice means that each and every woman has the choice to decide what they believe scientifically, when life begins. Does life start at conception? Does life start at a heartbeat? Does life start at viability?

Pro-choice means that we do not force women to back alleys with hangers. Women can get the proper medical care they deserve.

Pro-choice means that women do not have to die for their choice.

 

[rparmfamily]

What are people called who want to keep it safe and legal? I always called those "prochoice" but a few of you suggested it's not the right term. What is?

 

[Master Mason]

No, pro-choice means that you are in favor of the woman making her own choices.

Pro-choice means that the government is not involved in medical decisions. It protects everybody, pro-choice and pro-lifers. Because if you the allow the government to start making decisions regarding a woman's uterus, you give permission to the government to make all decisions. What if the unlikely scenario would happen as it is in China where abortions are required when a couple with 1 child finds themself pregnant again. We never want to go down the road of giving our government power over the woman's uterus.

Pro-choice means that the woman is free to consult her pastor, rabbi, allah, buddha, the sun god, her partner, her doctor, her friend, her support system.

Pro-choice means that the woman can honor her belief system. For instance, I remember Jenny telling us during one of the umpteen abortion debates that abortion is very much allowed in Judaism under certain circumstances. Why should the religious belief of the Christian trump the Jewish belief?

Pro-choice means the decision lies with the mother and the medical profession , the people most qualified to make the medical decisions.

Pro-choice means that each and every woman has the choice to decide what they believe scientifically, when life begins. Does life start at conception? Does life start at a heartbeat? Does life start at viability?

Pro-choice means that we do not force women to back alleys with hangers. Women can get the proper medical care they deserve.

Pro-choice means that women do not have to die for their choice.

And I'll agree with all of what you just said, but the opposite of antiabortion, is still proabortion.

 

[Barbossa]

No

 

[Seewhatimesdone]

I'm pro-choice, but why in the world would anyone be for abortion? I think it's a terrible thing but making it illegal would just get thousands of women hurt

 

[Master Mason]

I'm pro-choice, but why in the world would anyone be for abortion? I think it's a terrible thing but making it illegal would just get thousands of women hurt

See your contridicting yourself right there. How can you be for allowing it to happen with out being for it? Being for something and advocating for it to happen are not the same thing.

 

[Seewhatimesdone]

See your contridicting yourself right there. How can you be for allowing it to happen with out being for it? Being for something and advocating for it to happen are not the same thing.

I think abortion is a terrible thing but it's happened since the dawn of time and will continue to happen. I can't understand how such a thing exists but I know that if it was illegal people would go to unqualified people to get it done and would be hurt. It's not my place to tell someone what they can or can't do. I'm not going to push my opinion on someone. I don't want people dying from the procedure.

 

[Tinkerbell424]

Absolutely not.
I am Pro-choice. I believe a woman should be able to decide what happens to her body and her.
I don't agree with abortion as a way of birth control, though.

 

[Master Mason]

I think abortion is a terrible thing but it's happened since the dawn of time and will continue to happen. I can't understand how such a thing exists but I know that if it was illegal people would go to unqualified people to get it done and would be hurt. It's not my place to tell someone what they can or can't do. I'm not going to push my opinion on someone. I don't want people dying from the procedure.

And I agree with what your saying about abortion, however since you wish for it to be legal, you are by defintion proabortion. It's not a bad thing, I am as well.

 

[smartestnumber5]

And again, I didn't make up the definition, or design the english language.

I don't know how old you are, but I am old enough to remember when people used to have rallies and hold up signs claiming themselves to be pro abortion. That didn't mean they were wanting everyone to get one, it meant they wanted it to be legal.

It is only in our PC society, where everyone wishes to sugar coat things, and come up with new phrases for things to make them sound nicer than they really are that we even have this discussion.

Well I am too young to have seen those rallies I guess. Perhaps the term was understood differently by most people then?

I don't see this in terms of sugar coating. I have no problem with the term "pro-abortion." I just think that most people do not take it to mean "Abortion should be legal" just as they don't think "I'm pro-peeing on the Bible" means "I think there should be no law preventing people from desecrating their own personal religious texts." The fact that a word has a certain dictionary definition does not mean that is how the average person will understand the word. So I would be doing myself a huge disservice if I described myself as being "pro-peeing on the Bible"--the vast majority of people would simply not understand what I meant.

I think the whole pro-choice/pro-life labels are dumb anyway. Why don't we just say what we mean? Some people think abortion is murder and that therefore the govt should make it illegal to have an abortion. Some people think that abortion is murder, but that the govt doesn't have the right to tell a woman what she can do with her body. Some people think there's nothing wrong with abortion, but thinks that it should be up to popular vote whether women can choose one or not. Some people think that abortion is morally questionable, but think that it is a necessary evil.

I don't believe for one second, though, when John McCain used the term "pro-abortion" that he simply meant to say that "Obama supports Roe v. Wade."

 

[SereneOne]

No. Pro-Choice is (IMO) protecting a woman's right to choose and does not force her to have an abortion as some anti-choice groups would have people believe.

On the other hand, Anti-choice (or pro-life) would force a woman to carry a pregnancy to term with no regard for the woman doing the carryin'.

Only one of these two options FORCES a woman to do something, the other gives her an OPTION.

So much for CHOICE...again the only choice is to kill babies and not be accountable for your actions unless you are a man. Thank you for proving the pro abortion statement.


To answer the OP question, I do not feel most people who are "pro-choice" (I consider it anti-choice, since the only one who gets a choice is the one who in most cases chose to act irresponsibly and then thinks that the unborn child and man must suffer the consequences but not them...and no, I am not talking about rape victims or molestation victims, that is not making the choice to have sex obviously) are pro-abortion. I think most people believe abortions to be a horrible thing for everyone involved. I think most would prefer the baby to be given up for adoption or what have you. However, we live in an imperfect world and people make imperfect choices in the midst of difficult situations and people understand that.

 

[chobie]

And I'll agree with all of what you just said, but the opposite of antiabortion, is still proabortion.

You're talking semantics. So fine, we'll call people who against the right to choose anti-choice, which would logically make us pro-choice. Problem solved.

 

[TCPluto]

What are people called who want to keep it safe and legal? I always called those "prochoice" but a few of you suggested it's not the right term. What is?

That would be pro-abortion Alex.

What is the choice we're talking about? Whether to carry a pregnanct through until birth. the choice is to kill that baby before birth. The term for that is abortion. Wanting to kill a baby before it is born is to be pro-abortion.

 

[sha_lyn]

Yes, the opposite of anti abortion is pro abortion, however that has become sugar coated with the fraze pro choice.

 

[Master Mason]

I don't believe for one second, though, when John McCain used the term "pro-abortion" that he simply meant to say that "Obama supports Roe v. Wade."

I'll agree, it was a jab, but it is also a political race, they do that.

For the record it is also possible to be in favor of keeping abortion legal and be against Roe v. Wade. Roe is a terrible decision based on a "right" which doesn't appear in the constitution.

 

[Master Mason]

You're talking semantics. So fine, we'll call people who against the right to choose anti-choice, which would logically make us pro-choice. Problem solved.

yes it is much much better to not talk about what you actually mean.