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jacejace

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just wondering if this is possible...lets say i have 150 points at ssr and 50 at bwv. would i be able to make a reservation at bwv at the 11 month window with my bwv points and after the 7 month window change my reservation to use my ssr points? i wouldnt think so because im sure everyone would do it, but just a thought as i ponder my dvc purchase.
 
Yes, I do this all the time. Make your reservations 11 months out at both resorts making sure that they are consecutive dates. Example: June 1-3 at SSR and June 4-5 at bwv. At the 7 month mark call and switch the BWV reservations to SSR. There is one problem with this. What if SSR isn't available. You have to be happy with whereever you make your reservations.

I do this with our OKW points I book 5 nights at OKW and then book 5 nights at VERO at 7 months I try to get a room at OKW with my VERO points, sometimes not all the nights are available. I have gone on the wait list and gotten what I wanted. But... I would have been happy with VERO too.

Good luck.
 
OP is this what you're asking?


You own 150 BWV and 50 OKW. You make a reservation for BWV for 150 points at 11 month mark. At 7 month mark you want to swap out 50 BWV and use 50 OKW instead? leaving you with 50 BWV to rent/bank etc and keeping the reservation the same?


I think that would depend on the kindness of the CM your talking if thats the case... :yay: but I'm sure someone wiser than I will say for sure...
 
yes, im sorry for the confusion. i wonder if i could swap out the original 50 points at bwv with my ssr points at the 7 month window. basically, i would make a reservation at the 11 month window for bwv with my 50 bwv points, then after the 7 month window, swap the bwv points with my ssr points. this way i could get in bwv at the 11 month window, use ssr points, and use/bank bwv points for future use. i'm sure disney has thought of this "loophole" and avoided it, but just wondering if it can be done
 

I have no personal experience with this but I have seen this question posted before. The answer that was given is that if there is availability for BWV at the time you call to swap the points then you can do it. If there is no availability for BWV at that time then you would have to go on the waitlist to reserve at BWV with the SSR points.

So it's not much different than making a new reservation at BWV with SSR points at 7 months and canceling the original reservation except that your confirmation number doesn't change?
 
Also, when you book BWV at 11 months, you can only book enough nights that 50 pts. would cover. So, if your 50 pts at BWV only buys you 2 nights, that is all you can reserve. Then at 7 months you can try to make the rest of your reservation using your SSR pts if there is still availability.

:teeth:
 
I don't understand any advantage to doing that, though. If you book with 50 BWV points at 11 months, then change to SSR points at 7 months, I understand in theory that this would give you a fresh 11 month window for BWV...but at that time, switching at 7 months, you'd more than likely be working in a different use year anyway, and you'd have those 50 points from the new use year to book with.
 
You can only "swap" the points if there is still availability at the BWV for the same unit type, size and view as the reservation made before the 7 month window opens.

To use the SSR points, the CM essentially has to cancel the original reservation and then make a new reservation using the SSR points. If there is anyone on the waitlist, you'd lose the reservation to them. To be able to do what you propose would negate the purpose of the 11 month / 7 month booking windows.

In other words, MS will not let you bypass a waitlist by swapping our your BWV points with non-BWV points after the 7 month window opens - because the people on the waitlist were willing to use their BWV points to make that same reservation before the 7 month window opened.

As lisa S already posted, if there is still availability, there wouldn't be a problem.

Best wishes-
 
Chuck S said:
I don't understand any advantage to doing that, though. If you book with 50 BWV points at 11 months, then change to SSR points at 7 months, I understand in theory that this would give you a fresh 11 month window for BWV...but at that time, switching at 7 months, you'd more than likely be working in a different use year anyway, and you'd have those 50 points from the new use year to book with.
Mostly what Carol said. In the distant past, DVC would actually allow you to keep the reservation then swap out the points even if there was a wait list for what was reserved. They have changed the interpretation, thankfully. There are actually several scenarios involved. One is as noted in this thread, where one swaps out non home resort points at the 7 month window. Another is with points that come available after the reservation is made such as banked or borrowed points. DVC tends to be slightly more lenient in this situation but the same principles apply.

The bottom line is that what should happen in both cases is to only be allowed to swap the points for nights you could cancel and rebook. And generally this is how it's handled but as with all things Disney, there is inconsistency. To allow otherwise would give both groups an advantage. If done more than a little, it would essentially result in a given resort being oversold for that year AND/OR create a situation where some members couldn't use their points at all. As a minimum, it would allow one the potential of reserving more time using the home priority than they should be able to do. And of course it's always going to be the more in demand, more popular, smaller resorts that are affected and mostly during high demand times.

Here's an extreme example. Say I owned 100 BWV points and 1000 OKW points. In it's extreme, I could book a full 1100 points at BWV for BW or standard view at the 11 month window.
 
Newbie here...

If I own 50 pts at OKW and 50 pts at SSR, both with June use year. Can I not use all 100 at OKW at the 11 month window?

Regs,

CJM
 
U2FanHfx said:
Newbie here...

If I own 50 pts at OKW and 50 pts at SSR, both with June use year. Can I not use all 100 at OKW at the 11 month window?

Regs,

CJM
At the 11-month window you can use only your 50 OKW points to book at OKW and only your 50 SSR points to book at SSR. At the 7-month window you can combine the points and use them at any resort.
 
U2FanHfx said:
Newbie here...

If I own 50 pts at OKW and 50 pts at SSR, both with June use year. Can I not use all 100 at OKW at the 11 month window?

Regs,

CJM
No, only the 50 OKW. You could use the SSR points at 7 months out.
 











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