Is April an uncommon UY?

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I have been stalking resale listings lately (though we are not ready to add on YET) and it seems that April UY contracts are few and far between. Is this just kind of a stretch or do some UY have less than others? I kind of thought they would be evenly divided but I have no idea why I think that.
 
I have been stalking resale listings lately (though we are not ready to add on YET) and it seems that April UY contracts are few and far between. Is this just kind of a stretch or do some UY have less than others? I kind of thought they would be evenly divided but I have no idea why I think that.

For SSR April use year is the least common. I only know this cause I read it somewhere and since I own a SSR with an April use year it stuck:) As for other DVC properties I have no idea! Good luck finding what you are looking for:)
 
I have been stalking resale listings lately (though we are not ready to add on YET) and it seems that April UY contracts are few and far between. Is this just kind of a stretch or do some UY have less than others? I kind of thought they would be evenly divided but I have no idea why I think that.

I have just closed on a resale contract for SSR that has an April use year also.I did see much less of that use year listed for SSR then others/
 

Links to dvcnews.com with charts showing the UY point distribution at various resorts:
http://dvcnews.com/index.php/dvc-program/owning-dvc/1557-distribution-of-dvc-points-by-use-year

And one for BLT: http://www.dvcnews.com/index.php/resorts/bay-lake-tower/news/1932-bay-lake-tower-point-distribution

So I guess it depends on what you are shopping for.popcorn::

Collectively, April is the least common Use Year among the seven DVC resorts at Walt Disney World.

In April 2011, DVCNews had an article about the distribution of points by Use Year for nine of the eleven DVC resorts. See http://dvcnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1557&Itemid=1. There should be an update to the charts published shortly.

Thank you for the links! It is interesting for sure. I think what really stood out is that the distribution of points is more even at OKW than at any of the other properties. Wonder what changed from after the 1st DVC.

But it does explain why I see so few of them! I think it gives me a good reason to start looking for our add on since it might be harder to find (always looking for a reason).
 
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Collectively, April is the least common Use Year among the seven DVC resorts at Walt Disney World.

In April 2011, DVCNews had an article about the distribution of points by Use Year for nine of the eleven DVC resorts. See http://dvcnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1557&Itemid=1. There should be an update to the charts published shortly.

Any idea why Disney offers the UY's that they do? February seems to be their current default month for BLT and AKV. Disney doesn't do anything without a good reason, I just can't figure out what it is. :confused3

DVD people that I have asked give me the "I don't know why" with a smirk. :rolleyes:

:earsboy: Bill
 
Any idea why Disney offers the UY's that they do? February seems to be their current default month for BLT and AKV. Disney doesn't do anything without a good reason, I just can't figure out what it is. :confused3

DVD people that I have asked give me the "I don't know why" with a smirk. :rolleyes:

:earsboy: Bill

Just my own speculation, but they started selling BLT in September or October 2008, with the first points coming in 2009. Maybe offering the very first UY made its seemed like you were getting your points pretty quickly, even though the resort wasn't going to be opening until the following August/September....
 
Any idea why Disney offers the UY's that they do? February seems to be their current default month for BLT and AKV. Disney doesn't do anything without a good reason, I just can't figure out what it is. :confused3

DVD people that I have asked give me the "I don't know why" with a smirk. :rolleyes:

:earsboy: Bill

I've always wondered how Disney came up with the concept of the Use Year. I don't know much about other timeshare systems, and virtually nothing about how timeshares were being operated in the late 1980s when Disney began designing the Disney Vacation Club. Was the Use Year a common industry concept at that time? Why does the DVC use eight UYs? Why not 12? Or why not just two or three?

As noted by a prior poster, it appears that DVD tried to have a fairly equal distribution of points by UY at OKW, the first DVC resort. Even HHI, the second DVC resort, has a fairly even distribution of points among six of the eight UYs. That the September and October UYs are the smallest at HHI might be reflecting the seasonal nature of that beachfront resort rather than an intentional design by Disney. But by the time BWV and VWL came online, DVD must have realized there was no need for an equal distribution of points.

I wonder if, back in 1990, Disney had a fear that if everyone got their annual allotment of points on January 1, they would be trying to use those points right away during the first half of the year. To counter this fear, Disney might have thought that a Member's UY would greatly influence when they booked their stays. If so, then it made sense to stagger the membership over the entire calendar year.

By 1995, after a few years of experience, Disney might have realized that Members' booking patterns aren't greatly influenced by their Use Years. A Member with a December UY might book an October stay as commonly as a member with a February UY might book a January stay.

So now, after 20+ years of booking experience behind it, DVD has realized that the concept of the Use Year is not as important as it first thought. That is why BLT and AKV can have their points heavily skewed toward a single Use Year at each resort. My guess is that VGF will also have one UY that will have over a third of VGF's total points.

As disneynutz noted, currently DVD is placing most new Members' contracts in the February UY. But a couple of months ago the default UY was December, and a couple months before that it was August or October. After tracking sales for the last couple of years, I sense that DVD likes to offer new members UYs that are about 6 months in the past. In December 2009 and January 2010 DVD offered the February 2009 UY to new buyers as part of a "get two years of points" promotion. But offering almost a year's worth of points has actually been quite rare. Today is July 27, and I very seriously doubt that DVD would let a new buyer get an August UY with 2011 points if they are buying today.

Occasionally, at D23 meets and other Disney get-togethers, Disney brings out a Disney Legend who talks about the good old days working with Mr. Disney, the making of a film, or the design of an attraction. Personally, I'd love to attend a session with the analysts and accountants who helped design the DVC. How did they come up with the concept of the UY? How do they create and manage a point chart? etc., etc. It would be especially nice if the "Meet the DVC Analyst" session was held at the same time as the "Meet the Stars of The Avengers" session, because then I'd probably be all alone at the DVC session. Unless they offered free FastPasses at the DVC meet, in which case a few more people would show up.
 
February was the big month sold for about 9 months at BLT before it opened resulting in their designating more units as Feb. AKV was also prinicipally Feb for pre-opening sales but for a shorter period, about five months, and then it had another period that they mainly used December for several months for Kidani units before Kidani opened. Other months that are high such as December and June have to do with the usual pattern of selling to new purchasers. Once a resort is open, Disney was very often selling a use year that was about four to five months before the month in which the sale occurs. Both Dec and June got sold in the pattern during key sale periods in respectively the spring break and fall and because there is no May and July use year, or Nov and Jan use year, June and Dec were always sold for more months in a row under the usual pattern than any other use year months.

Hilton Head is another one that is determined by the selling patterns, Sep and Oct are very low use year months because those were the months being offered to new purchasers in Jan and Feb when not many go to Hilton Head.

When OKW opened, most timeshares were set week timeshares and point systems and use years were virtually unheard of. Moreover, they designated the units as a whole early (a unit was one OKW building) with their applicable use years creating the almost even distribution. That experience taught them not do that for future resorts but to delay designating many unit's use years until it came closer to time of adding them for sale and they learned which months needed more points than others to fit their usual sales pattern.
 
Welcome Home Wednesdays, Merry Mixer, and Owners Meeting attract a good following with free baked goods, lemonade, hats, and ornaments so I would guess that Fast Passes would be a big hit! :rotfl2:

:earsboy: Bill
 
When OKW opened, most timeshares were set week timeshares and point systems and use years were virtually unheard of. Moreover, they designated the units as a whole early (a unit is one OKW building) with their applicable use years creating the almost even distribution. That experience taught them not do that for future resorts but instead determine use years needed to fit the usual sales pattern as sales progressed.

DVD learned that lesson fairly quickly. As drusba points out, DVD initially allotted a single Unit for an entire building at OKW. OKW Unit 35, with about 223,920 points, comprises all of Building 35. However, in the mid 1990s when DVD finished off the construction at OKW and brought Buildings 62, 63, and 64 online, it designated several Units in each Building. Building 62 has Units 62A through 62H; Building 63 has Units 63A through 63E; and Building 64 has Units 64A through 64I. By using 22 Units rather than only three, DVD could assign Units to all eight UYs rather than be tied to just three.
 



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