Is anyone NOT middle class?

I think that going by income is weird. A certain income goes a lot further in some parts of the country than others so I don't see how just the amount can determine class.

As for hotels, I like to stay at AKL, the moderates and some evil offsite hotels. Where does that put me?
 
caitycaity said:
i don't think that is correct. i think people often are considered middle class based on education rather than salary. a lot of people in academia, for example, do not make much money (especially when first starting) but are generally considered middle class.

i don't know what proportion non monetary issues should account for, but i definitely think there is more to class than money alone. otherwise, why would we have the term nouveau riche?

ETA:

my numbers are -
occupation 71
education 97
income 38
wealth 25
average 58

based on my monetary numbers alone i would not be middle class, but my average pushes me to the middle.

economic class-Money has an influence on lower,middle,upper.

class/style- Money has never had a thing to do with how a person handles themselves.Some very wealthy people have no class(style)-whats her name Hilton,Britney Spears,etc.
 
The Disney Version:
Lower class: values
Middle class: moderates
Upper class: deluxe
Wealthy: DVC

I stay off-site, does that put me in the cheap lower class? :rotfl:
I do wear Chanel accessoiries though... ;)
 
DH and I are semi-retired, living on a fixed income.

Are home and auto's are paid, so our income is our's. We struggled raising a family of 4, paying for their education (never qualified for any aid) I never worked until my children were teens. We always stayed "OFF-SITE", cooked our own food, made the jump to moderates 10 years ago, and deluxes 5 years ago. I look at it this way "We can't take it with us and I'll be damed if I leave it to my SIL"

DH worked construction his whole life so I call us "Dirty Blue Collar"
 

Tiffer said:
I noticed that Doctorate was the highest degree yet only a 99. This reminds me of a profesor in college who wouldn't give A's.

Where's the 100?


I've never seen a 100 on a percentile scale - it isn't really possible.
 
According to the Times I'm in the 68%.

Thank God my family loves Pop Century. I once asked them if they wanted to try the Contemporary and they said NO they just love Pop. Thank God Disney thinks of us poor folk too.

However, even poor has levels. There is poor where you can't pay your bills and their is PO where you can't eat.
 
Ok that NyTimes thing is just wierd. It ranked dh at 80% (with a net worth in the tens of thousands) which is higher then it ranked my FIL whose net worth is in the tens of millions, and whose annual salary is more then triple ours. I also did my rank for once I finish my BA and Masters and re-enter the workforce (going to be a psychologist) and that put me higher then dh although his current income is double what my projected income will ever be. My FIL works so hard to project his upper class lifestyle, he'd have a fit if he knew the NYTimes was telling me I have a higher class ranking then him. :rotfl2:
 
I'm in the 76th percentile.
The NY times thing doesn't think very highly of my career. I guess anything technical doesn't make you classy. Maybe because we wear jeans to work?
 
BTW, did anyone else notice that the NYT had the #3 most prestigious occupation as a Database Administrator? :rotfl2: :rotfl2: Doctors, lawyers and then DBA's :confused3

Occupation - 71%
Education - 97%
Income - 99%
Wealth - 93%
Average - 90%
 
Bob Slydell said:
BTW, did anyone else notice that the NYT had the #3 most prestigious occupation as a Database Administrator? :rotfl2: :rotfl2: Doctors, lawyers and then DBA's :confused3

Occupation - 71%
Education - 97%
Income - 99%
Wealth - 93%
Average - 90%

That certainly fits DBAs' opinions of themselves. :rotfl:

My average was 89%, DW's was 99%. Do we still get to be middle class?
 
Galahad said:
That certainly fits DBAs' opinions of themselves. :rotfl:

My average was 89%, DW's was 99%. Do we still get to be middle class?

Good point (on the DBA's, that is ) :lmao: :lmao:

I combined DW and I -- I've got the MBA, she's got the income. :teeth: As far as wealth, well, that's both ours, I assume. :rolleyes1
 
Cass said:
Wait a minute, don't the DVC'ers have to cook in their units? I think the deluxes might have one up on them. :confused3
:rotfl: I love that :teeth:
DaisyD said:
DVC is a bargain compared to deluxes. That is why it is such a good deal. I'd put DVC as upper middle and deluxe as wealthy.
I actaully agree with thatl. I spend just a much a year now as I would if I were staying in a moderate for the same number of nights. I just have no worries about a hotel cost when I go... I see it more as my pre-paid vacations :teeth:

I did that silly NYT thing and it put us at 88%. That is with the one of us working only. I do NOT see us as wealthy. When we both worked, I admit, I would have put us in the lower upper class. We just never showed it much. Now we are solid middle class to slightly upper middle class. We just figured with the amount my DH brings in, there was no need for two of us to work which is why we dropped.
 
Bob Slydell said:
BTW, did anyone else notice that the NYT had the #3 most prestigious occupation as a Database Administrator? :rotfl2: :rotfl2: Doctors, lawyers and then DBA's :confused3
:rotfl: I saw that too!

Occupation - 77th
Education - 91st
Income - 78th
Wealth - 85th
Average - 83rd

Looks wonderful on paper, but they forget to take into account my student loans. To get to that 91st percentile wasn't cheap!
 
We are in the top percentile and stay at Shades of Green. I would consider SoG a deluxe at moderate prices. ;)
 
What's that saying, white trash with money. I'm middle class, but no matter how much money we have I'll still walk around my yard barefoot and drink beer right out of the bottle :)
 
Count us in as another couple who can afford the deluxe resorts but would find it a total waste since we rarely hang out at the resorts. We did however have a discussion over the weekend about staying at the different resorts for a couple nights just so we can see each one and take adavantage of some of the exclusives (AKL sunrise safari). Switching resorts during a trip is something we never considered until we read about the many people that do it.

When people did this NYT poll did they put in only their situation or did they count their spouses income as well?
 
Oh dear how embarrassing. 29th overall! Well I guess that explains why my last trip to Disney was back in 2001. :sad2:
 
cardaway said:
When people did this NYT poll did they put in only their situation or did they count their spouses income as well?

I did it combined as far as income and wealth and took my education (I have an MBA, DW has a Bachelor's). Profession is the same for both of us, accounting. :)
 


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