Is Al Gore a traitor or has he simply lost his mind?

[sodaseller]

You are aware then that Christianity has undergone a reformation and that we also have the New Testament that puts forth a whole new set of expected behavior.

Presumptive collective pronoun, to be sure.

 

[dcentity2000]

You have examined Al? He seems delusional to me. In addition to these latest rantings, lets not forget that he invented the internet and the book "Love Story" was written about he and Tipper. I don't think old Al has both oars in the water.

How dare you! Do you even know what a delusion is like? It's an evil, evil thing, one that destroys the victim mentally. Think you can fly? Sure that you can kill people if you think the wrong word? Live in fear of what you might do by breathing?

That's a delusion. This is a petty comparison to a horrific thing and I am very, very disappointed in you.

As if you have ANY idea what you are talking about when you haven't been there yourself

Come back when you've suffered years of delusions and then we'll talk.



Rich::

 

[BelleMcNally]

The only major religion that hasn't undergone a reformation is Islam. The pictures posted were taken in front of a Christian church, thus the reference to Christianity.

Hinduism hasn't undergone a reformation...unless you're going to count Buddhism as a reformed Hinduism...

But if you're going to be that liberal with the definition of reformation, you'll have to count the "reformation" that occurred upon the death of the Prophet involving the split between the Sunni and Shiites, right?


But beyond that, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make...

 

[sodaseller]

Okay, I'm not going to invest myself in this argument, because it's beyond ridiculous. But I'm really getting tired of you harping on the "invented the Internet" thing. Yeah, it was misspoken (and, really let's all have a little honesty-fest here and admit that the current President is the High Priest of Misspeak), but it was founded in reality.

Gore sponsored the legisilation responsible for creating the Internet (and he did coin the phrase "information superhighway"), so he was a vital part in its advent. Did he write the programming with his own little democratic hands? No. But that's not what he was referring to, and educated people know that.

So you're going to have to find a better basis for questioning his sanity. And if you try to submit the fact that once upon a time he grew an ugly beard as evidence of his slipping grip on reality...well...I guess it really wouldn't surprise me all that much.

The Love Story attack is also bogus. But they needed to invent a metanarrative

 

[Mugg Mann]

Hi Dawn....I'm an athiest, and a proud American who strongly believes in the Constitution of the United States. What gibberish are you going to concoct to explain my code of conduct since the standards of expected behavior you believe everyone should follow in the bible are irrelevant to me?

 

[sodaseller]

You are aware then that Christianity has undergone a reformation and that we also have the New Testament that puts forth a whole new set of expected behavior.

I would also add that the reference to a "reformation" shows that you are Catholic-bashing! I'm going to tell Bill Donohue.

Now some might think that you used the term in passing in its generic sense, as opposed to an adoption of Luther's movement, and that you intended no offense to Catholics. But given your deep understanding of comparative religious history and the fact that you have made clear that any sloppy formulation should be given its most sinister construction and the fact that you support a President that spoke at Bob Jones University, we can only assume that you harbor a depp animus towards the Catholic Church and all its adherents. Likely a mental illness

 

[eclectics]

The Bin Laden family is a very large Saudi family with ties to oil and construction. They didn't "bribe" Al Gore, they, along with others, paid him handsomely. Al Gore bashes America on his own.

This was your previous quote; "disgruntled ex candidate who was paid by the Bin Laden family and other
Saudi interests to go to their country and bash the USA."


Sounds to me like you said he was paid to bash the USA. Now you say he did it on his own.

 

[Mugg Mann]

The Love Story attack is also bogus. But they needed to invent a metanarrative

It's okay. Dawn has a long history on these boards of ignoring facts that don't fit into her worldview. Just for giggles, I'll give her the snopes link that debunks the whole Al Gore internet myth that she desperately wants to hold onto, and give her the opportunity to say that a non-partisan source such as snopes is not a valid source because it goes against what she desperately wants to believe. Her response should be quite interesting....

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp

 

[BelleMcNally]

It's okay. Dawn has a long history on these boards of ignoring facts that don't fit into her worldview. Just for giggles, I'll give her the snopes link that debunks the whole Al Gore internet myth that she desperately wants to hold onto, and give her the opportunity to say that a non-partisan source such as snopes is not a valid source because it goes against what she desperately wants to believe. Her response should be quite interesting....

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp

Well, now I have to retract my statement that he coined "Information Superhighway". Maybe that means I'm crazy too!!!!!!

 

[eclectics]

Then again, some people obviously DO think he's mentally ill.

I'm not one of them. But I think he's very, very bitter and angry. And a career political opportunist.

I disagree with him being a career political opportunist. He has given absolutely no indication he seeks any future political office. I think because of that fact, he is actually more inclined to speak his mind as he sees fit and let the pieces fall as they may. He doesn't have to look over his shoulder because of the next election.

 

[Mugg Mann]

Well, now I have to retract my statement that he coined "Information Superhighway". Maybe that means I'm crazy too!!!!!!

lol.....I'm afraid not; your posts are coherent and consistent from post to post. Besides, you're willing to amend your opinion once introduced to new factual information. Regretfully, that takes you out of the crazy pool.

Of course, if you wanna fake it, I'm willing to play along!

 

[sodaseller]

It's okay. Dawn has a long history on these boards of ignoring facts that don't fit into her worldview. Just for giggles, I'll give her the snopes link that debunks the whole Al Gore internet myth that she desperately wants to hold onto, and give her the opportunity to say that a non-partisan source such as snopes is not a valid source because it goes against what she desperately wants to believe. Her response should be quite interesting....

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp

Bob Sommerby has also debunked the "love Story" myth - what Gore said was true there as well.

 

[Mugg Mann]

BTW, Eclectics, I really love that signature of yours! Sometimes I feel like I'm talking to characters straight out of fractured fairy tales on these boards....

 

[TCPluto]

Al Gore would have been President if "the Presidential poll", AKA the Popular Vote, the true democratic way to elect a President, was used to elect a President, instead of allowing a bunch of "activist judges" to select.

It was the electoral college that is the culprit, you'll have to scapegoat the founding fathers for that one. After all, what did those clowns know about setting up a democracy? Boy where they a resounding failure....

 

[eclectics]

BTW, Eclectics, I really love that signature of yours! Sometimes I feel like I'm talking to characters straight out of fractured fairy tales on these boards....

 

[sodaseller]

It was the electoral college that is the culprit, you'll have to scapegoat the founding fathers for that one. After all, what did those clowns know about setting up a democracy? Boy where they a resounding failure....

Fair enough, except that the EC does not operate like the one originally designed - it has been amended directly and also altered by state statute in the manner of choosing electors. In fact, they were't setting up a demcracy in the EC, but a Republic, to be sure, and not even a democratically elected one. So you may like the way the EC operated in 2000, but you can't credit the founders.

And the EC wasn't the only evidence of the Founders' aversion to direct elections - Senators were also selected, not elected, and they were the far more powerful branch, given treaty ratification and advice and consent power, although the House had more control over the purse.

Oddly enough, one other change via the 12th goes in the opposite direction. Originally, the Veep was the 2d place finisher in the election. That was intended to be a check on Presidential power (God forbid), as the Veep broke Senate ties and presided there. If we were still using that system. it would be VP Kerry, and we'd be setting up the independent counsel office to investigate the shooting and all other unrelated matters

 

[Mugg Mann]

Hmmm.....confronted with facts, Dawn has once again chosen to ignore them, and instead ran to another thread, where she posted another biased cheap shot at 10:43 last night;

Obviously we know more about Dick Cheney shooting his friend than we will ever know about John Kerry shooting the Vietnamese kid in the back.

2nd chance Dawn; Which is it? Do you believe snopes is not a credible source, or were you wrong about Al Gore? You can't have it both ways (as much as you clearly want to...)

 

[DawnCt1]

Hmmm.....confronted with facts, Dawn has once again chosen to ignore them, and instead ran to another thread, where she posted another biased cheap shot at 10:43 last night;



2nd chance Dawn; Which is it? Do you believe snopes is not a credible source, or were you wrong about Al Gore? You can't have it both ways (as much as you clearly want to...)

Even his claims that "he created the internet" and took the initiatives to advance it are debatable by your own source. Al Gore has, ovelr the years, dislocated his shoulder by attempting to pat himself on his back for things that he hasn't done. For someone who has "done so much", shouldn't he have the skills to communicate it? BTW. Tell me what you know about John Kerry shooting the Vietnamese kid in the back.

 

[Mugg Mann]

Even his claims that "he created the internet" and took the initiatives to advance it are debatable by your own source. Al Gore has, ovelr the years, dislocated his shoulder by attempting to pat himself on his back for things that he hasn't done. For someone who has "done so much", shouldn't he have the skills to communicate it? BTW. Tell me what you know about John Kerry shooting the Vietnamese kid in the back.

Hmmm....debatable?

From snopes directly;

Claim: Vice-President Al Gore claimed that he "invented" the Internet.

Status: False.

Origins: Despite the derisive references that continue even today, Al Gore did not claim he "invented" the Internet, nor did he say anything that could reasonably be interpreted that way.

I guess that makes you unreasonable, doesn't it? As to your last sentence, you may rest assured that your efforts to try to deflect attention from the fact that you're debating with erroneous information by using more of the same are indeed noted...

So I'll ask again. Is snopes incorrect saying that no reasonable person could interpret Al Gore's comments that way, or are you wrong with your assertion about Al Gore?

 

[LakeAriel]

In reponse to Dawn's ridiculous accusations and diversions:

God Bless America, we need it desperately!