I think Disney should start enforcing end times on fastpasses

[doconeill]

If it's not Disney's rule, explain to me why the FP has an ending time, and doesn't say come back ex. after 4:30 PM. The hypocritical thing kinda lost me. In all of the years we've been going to Disney, we have never, ever returned after the expiration date of a FP. We've passed up many oportunities to get FP's because we've known we couldn't make it back.

Three reasons, at least one of which was stated earlier:

1) Disney CAN in very limited circumstances choose to enforce the return time. So if you absolutely, 100% want it to be accepted, show up on time. Otherwise you could be refused - in about 0.00001% of the time.

2) Flow control - since at least 90% of guests are likely to return during that window, the lines are more predictable. The 10% using them late don't drastically affect things as they are spread over the remaining day, and they are more likely to use them sooner than later.

3) Psychology - given the problems we know of guests even understanding the basic idea of Fastpass, giving a set return time is easier to explain than just a "show up after" time.

you can ...... All this is, is a debate on ethics. This is the last on this topic for me, so I hope someone can help me with a question I have. Where is Disney's rule that says that I can't send my wife and daughter ahead to stand in line for a particular ride, while I go get FP's for another ride, and then cut in line to join my family when I return. Y'all get pretty enraged on the cutting in line topic, but returning late with FP's is the exact thing. It's nothing but a ethics thing and you can't win that debate. You just have to resort to personal attacks.

Not even remotely the same at all. Cutting in line is more like taking a Fastpass with a return time of 2:00pm, but getting into the Fastpass line at 1:00pm while the CM wasn't looking.

Using a Fastpass late is more like, "Sorry, you can go ahead of me...I'm not ready to get in line yet."

Oh man.......

It appears that reports of this thread's earlier demise were greatly exaggerated............

TFHs don't die...they linger in the background until someone dredges it up again...

My apologies for beating the horse from Animal House again...I was late to the party because no one invited me

 

[cigar95]

Cigar was quoting John Belushi in the movie Animal House, hence the line "when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor." I'm sure he knows who really bombed Pearl Harbor.

Ahh, these young kids have missed out on so much. It's hard to believe Animal House will be 33 years old (!!) this summer.

My apologies for beating the horse from Animal House again...I was late to the party because no one invited me

Whoa, dueling Animal House references! ("What if he had a heart attack?!")

 

[mom2rtk]

My apologies for beating the horse from Animal House again...I was late to the party because no one invited me

You know one of these threads wouldn't be complete without you along. It was was on life support waiting for your appearance........ and can now go in peace....... right??????

 

[KSDisneyDad]

Oh man.......

It appears that reports of this thread's earlier demise were greatly exaggerated............

Sorry about that. I felt like someone was standing at the front of the FP queue blocking my way waiting for the start of their return window so was delayed in getting in my ethics response.

I'll stop beating this dead horse. I've already said numerous times that this argument is moot as long as Disney allows it, but it still keeps rearing its head on this board.

 

[gojoe]

Three reasons, at least one of which was stated earlier:

1) Disney CAN in very limited circumstances choose to enforce the return time. So if you absolutely, 100% want it to be accepted, show up on time. Otherwise you could be refused - in about 0.00001% of the time.

2) Flow control - since at least 90% of guests are likely to return during that window, the lines are more predictable. The 10% using them late don't drastically affect things as they are spread over the remaining day, and they are more likely to use them sooner than later.

3) Psychology - given the problems we know of guests even understanding the basic idea of Fastpass, giving a set return time is easier to explain than just a "show up after" time.

Just wondering what you (nobody in particular, just anyone) would say if a cast member told them their pass expired and they could not use the fast pass entrance?
Please I'm not trying to get anyone upset, I'm just wondering if you would walk away or use the reasons posted as to why you should be allowed to use your FP?

 

[juliebug1997]

It's almost as if a dead horse is being beaten somewhere , isn't it?

Yeah, I posted a pic of it on Friday some time. It kind of worked. For a while.

 

[doconeill]

Just wondering what you (nobody in particular, just anyone) would say if a cast member told them their pass expired and they could not use the fast pass entrance?
Please I'm not trying to get anyone upset, I'm just wondering if you would walk away or use the reasons posted as to why you should be allowed to use your FP?

Me personally, I would simply come back later after the CMs change (they do so frequently enough). The typical reason people are refused are due to CMs who either don't understand the policies (it's in the training manual) or seem to think they have the option of changing them (only the attraction manager can tell the CMs to begin enforcing, and only in certain unadvertised circumstances).

You will rarely get anywhere trying to argue the matter with a CM. They aren't going to understand the reasons any more than the average guest.

 

[mesaboy2]

Just wondering what you (nobody in particular, just anyone) would say if a cast member told them their pass expired and they could not use the fast pass entrance?
Please I'm not trying to get anyone upset, I'm just wondering if you would walk away or use the reasons posted as to why you should be allowed to use your FP?

Boo to you for reviving this thread AGAIN. It was on the second page and everything.

ETA: I would say "thanks" and return 20 minutes later when a different CM showed up.

 

[ses1230]

Just wondering what you (nobody in particular, just anyone) would say if a cast member told them their pass expired and they could not use the fast pass entrance?
Please I'm not trying to get anyone upset, I'm just wondering if you would walk away or use the reasons posted as to why you should be allowed to use your FP?

I would come back later to a different CM.

 

[LilyWDW]

I would come back later to a different CM.

Same.

Just like when you call and you get a CM that doesn't know the answer to your question even though it is in their training.

 

[nytimez]

Boo to you for reviving this thread AGAIN. It was on the second page and everything.

What'd I tell ya? It's a ZOMBIE HORSE.

 

[hookedonears]

Boo to you for reviving this thread AGAIN. It was on the second page and everything.

ETA: I would say "thanks" and return 20 minutes later when a different CM showed up.

I'm through commenting on this subject matter, but why are y'all so bent out of shape about this thread still hanging around. Does guilt make you un-comfortable. Y'all still seem to be here commenting, so it must not be too bad. I guess y'all want it to go away so you can get back to discussing how are the crowds right now, or what kind of shoes are the best, or why is rope drop so important, or, or, or.

 

[mesaboy2]

I'm through commenting on this subject matter, but why are y'all so bent out of shape about this thread still hanging around. Does guilt make you un-comfortable. Y'all still seem to be here commenting, so it must not be too bad. I guess y'all want it to go away so you can get back to discussing how are the crowds right now, or what kind of shoes are the best, or why is rope drop so important, or, or, or.

Didn't you post this last night too?

Guilt?

Get over yourself and go back to coloring inside the lines. Way inside the lines. You must be the dude I pass doing 45 on the interstate.

 

[hookedonears]

Didn't you post this last night too?

Guilt?

Get over yourself and go back to coloring inside the lines. Way inside the lines. You must be the dude I pass doing 45 on the interstate.

Actually, I tried to post it this morning, but my computer hung up and I didn't think the post went through. I must have missed it, if it did.

 

[ses1230]

Boo to you

and you and you and you, Happy Halloween, boo!

Sorry I couldn't resist. I love MNSSHP and can't wait for it this year!

Now I'll be singing that all night...

 

[hookedonears]

Didn't you post this last night too?

Guilt?

Get over yourself and go back to coloring inside the lines. Way inside the lines. You must be the dude I pass doing 45 on the interstate.

Well barnacle boy, you and mermaid man must have been in your invisble boatmobile when you passed.

 

[mesaboy2]

Well barnacle boy, you and mermaid man must have been in your invisble boatmobile when you passed.

You must be getting low on ammo. TTFN.

 

[mom2rtk]

Zombie horse and barnacle boy............ all in the same thread.

It really doesn't get any better, does it???????

 

[lsenquiz]

Who woulda thunk when I started this thread that it would generate so much discussion. It has definitely made me think twice before I post anything now

Although, I am wondering what the record is for the most updates on a single thread? Maybe mine will reach that and I can win something

 

[mom2rtk]

Who woulda thunk when I started this thread that it would generate so much discussion. It has definitely made me think twice before I post anything now

Although, I am wondering what the record is for the most updates on a single thread? Maybe mine will reach that and I can win something

I'm sure you could win tickets to the red carpet premiere of The Adventures of Zombie Horse and Barnacle Boy: The Movie!