I Just Got Fired - Long.

[DarthKTrava]

Are you saying I don't work hard or that I don't appreciate the part time hours, because I do. That's why I looked for this particular type of job, but what I didn't sign up for was the BS.

I seriously doubt you're gonna find a job where there's no BS. Every job has BS; some just have more BS than others.

 

[disykat]

Bad moves on both of your parts, but if push comes to shove, I would expect you may come out on the short end of the stick.

However, as a "boss" in a workplace, my take on HER is the following:

1. She does not give clear direction. Saying "there are just a few e-mails......." (IMHO) is NOT telling you to do them. Saying "there are just a few e-mails left, please deal with them while I am at lunch" IS. Big Difference.

2. Having you do company activites of any sort is perfectly appropriate. Having you do company activities while she is doing personal business is, once again, appropriate, but (IMHO) highly unethical on her part. She is telling her company that it's ok for her to get paid by them doing personal stuff. Has she ever told you that?

3. You have a responsibility to behave professionally on the job. So does she. IMHO, by "being the boss", she has a higher responsibility than you. I have had to deal with subordinates who are acting badly many times & I have NEVER raised my voice or been "uber-confrontational" like she seems to have been. "Praise in public, Criticize in private" is a philosophy that really works. By shouting at you across the office was a very bad move that. (IMHO) will lose some of the respect her subordinates hopefully have for her.



It's sounds like you really like your job & I hope it works out.

BTW, I don't see the "see you monday" as being "snarky". Maybe a bit frustrated, but that's it.

I agree with this post. Of course the OP made terrible mistakes, but this "boss" did as well. We can validate the OP in that.

 

[Robinrs]

I seriously doubt you're gonna find a job where there's no BS. Every job has BS; some just have more BS than others.

Ain't THAT the truth!!!

 

[marlynnp]

Another thing, you are part time.

You aren't there all the time, you don't know what goes on when you aren't there, you do not know what hours your boss may actually be working.

I'm the boss and I do various personal things during the day and the owner knows it. It's okay because I am 'on call' whenever someone needs me. I work extra hours several nights a week and work at home week-ends if we have a project that needs to be done.

You were way out of line.

 

[AnninIowa]

OP - Life is too short to work in such an environment. I would take the whole situation as a big sign to get out and find another job. Just because someone is your boss in the workplace doesn't mean they are the boss of your life. I was in an office for eight years where I was degraded, insulted, overworked, underpaid, stabbed in the back, worked with people just like your boss...until I ended up in the emergency room with a major panic attack. Keeping it all in may be "professionally", but that doesn't mean it is healthy.

Get out while you can!!

 

[Aimeedyan]

Honestly, I would have fired you as well. The minute one of my employees makes a comment on how I spend my time is the minute I start submitting paperwork into their file. It's completely out of line, esp from a part time employee.

If you want the job still, I'd suggest going in Monday ready to change your ways quickly. While it's fine IRL to not beat around the bush and tell people what you think, you don't handle yourself that way with an employer.

 

[JessicaR]

Based on your job description and duties performed you sound like a very competent and conscientious worker. Anyone would be lucky to have you. Perhaps its a personality conflict with you and she. I know there are two sides but based on what you stated she would make me nuts too and I would not be long for that job. Respect is a two way street and it seems to be lacking on both sides.

I truly hope you can work it out with her since it seems you do enjoy what you are doing. I wish you the best.

 

[tinkerbell1967]

It sounds to me that maybe your boss is a little bit insecure and possibly is afraid that you could replace her??? I can understand where you are coming from, I work with with someone very similiar. It has not gotten to the point where I have had to express my feelings yet but I think I would try to handle it with a little bit more calmness than you did. I am not saying you did anything wrong, I think you proved that you can do a good job and other people have noticed you can do a good job and I just think your boss may be insecure and could be reacting to you rudely because of it. Be proud of yourself for standing up for yourself. There comes a point where a person can take so much of someone like her and I think you had that kind of a day!

 

[DreaminDisney]

I would NOT have said "see you Monday"
I too think it was a little over the top.

Good Luck!

 

[LotsOfQuestions]

Now, I know I'm wrong for calling her out, but am I right somewhere?

You were immature, went behind your boss's back to get other work, was rude and insubordinate, admittedly you "screw around" at work yet you also say you couldn't do the boss's work, refused to do the work that you didn't like so you could do the stuff that "you loved" and the "See you Monday" was a snarky, immature comment, basically telling your boss "nah, nah, you can't fire me". A nightmare employee at best.

Nope, can't find a single place where you were right.

 

[LotsOfQuestions]

Another thing, you are part time.

You aren't there all the time, you don't know what goes on when you aren't there, you do not know what hours your boss may actually be working.

I'm the boss and I do various personal things during the day and the owner knows it. It's okay because I am 'on call' whenever someone needs me. I work extra hours several nights a week and work at home week-ends if we have a project that needs to be done.

You were way out of line.

Most managers I know, myself included, put in way more hours at home, or come in early, stay late, etc. As a part-timer, the OP has absolutely no idea what hours the boss puts in. And I can't believe any part-timer has time to "screw around" at work. That just means they are not doing their job.

 

[Michelle67]

I'm sorry you've been dealing with that kind of treatment from her, but your comments really were unacceptable, and guaranteed to escalate the situation. When she didn't like that you hadn't done the emails instead of what you told her you were doing (and really, you should have probably just taken a break from the graphs and done the emails since she mentioned them, which presumably meant she wanted them dealt with while she was gone) you really should have just apologized and gotten on them right away. You have no right as an employee to question her work ethic. I understand your anger, and thinking it is probably universally human, but saying it is way out of line. Her work ethic is not your business. Your business is to do your job.

I'm not trying to be rude to you at all. This is just one of those things that we, as adults, sometimes have to ignore and simply do our own job. It does sound like the two of you are not going to work well together, and if you still have a job on Monday I recommend keeping your head down and your mouth shut, and starting to look for a new job. I don't recommend putting her name on your resume as a supervisor.

 

[chager]

I had a supervisor like this not too long ago. He did his "homework" from college and texted most of the day. If he didn't like you he was simply done right rude to you. Several night I described him as "taking his crayons and going home." I went to our manager about him because he was simply being rude all the time not only to us but to our customers. He didn't care what was happening or if there was an issue going on that he should handle, when the clock struck 3:50 he started getting ready to leave and then would stand at the door until 4 when he was scheduled off. He got really mad when we all stopped "just doing" what we knew needed to be done and left things that were his responsibility for him to do. I did look at him one day and ask if he was having a bad day (he had been extremely nasty for 2 weeks) and if him and his current partner had seperated. He looked shocked and said they were never an item and why couldn't a person have a bad day. I responded a bad day is one thing but it now had been two weeks and we were tired of it. Not the right way to say it, but I had it. The manager and I had a sit down and then had him join us. I was very forward and told him I could not correct a behavior that he thought wrong if he didn't tell me about it. In the end he never could say anything I did was wrong and he actually got a notice that his job was being eliminated! He was immediately moved to another area to finish out his time. Guess what everything is running better since he went away! That position is one that we could use, IF the person filling it actually did the work it requires.
I think the hardest part was not speaking badly to him. I did go to the manager and speak with her several times about him though. This way she was aware of the issues and could moniter them better.
Good luck in your situation.

 

[Lovin' Lorne]

It all went down hill fast as soon as you called her out on the personal business at work. If you're not fired, you'll surely be written up for insubordination. It doesn't matter how inept the boss is, they're still the boss and you're still their employee.

 

[Cool-Beans]

I'd have fired you long before she did. I don't need to pay someone to smart off to me - I can get that from my teens for free.

If you continue to smart off to your boss, this won't be the last job from which you are fired.

It sounds like both you and your boss have some growing up to do.

 

[MushyMushy]

So are you going back in on Monday? If so, you need to eat some serious crow if you want to keep this job and make things right. I might even go so far as to give your boss flowers, a card, or anything.

You just don't speak to your boss like that, and I don't know why you would unless you were burning your bridges.

 

[Robinrs]

It sounds to me that maybe your boss is a little bit insecure and possibly is afraid that you could replace her??? I can understand where you are coming from, I work with with someone very similiar. It has not gotten to the point where I have had to express my feelings yet but I think I would try to handle it with a little bit more calmness than you did. I am not saying you did anything wrong, I think you proved that you can do a good job and other people have noticed you can do a good job and I just think your boss may be insecure and could be reacting to you rudely because of it. Be proud of yourself for standing up for yourself. There comes a point where a person can take so much of someone like her and I think you had that kind of a day!

I'm sorry, no matter what the supervisor was thinking or feeling the OP needs to know that it's only HER behavior she can control.

She will run into MANY middle manager or upper management types that are not what we want them to be, but we must realize that it's the way we react to them is the sign of true character.

The boss may be the biggest jerk in the world, if you are the subordinate there are steps you can take, one being leaving the company with dignity. Insubordination is not an excuse for not liking the way a boss does their job, it's an excuse for them to use their power on YOU.

Being proud of mouthing off at a superior ends at the age of majority. A person of true character knows better than that. There are rules that need to be followed in the grown up world.. and no matter what your age you need to be "grown up".

This starts when you're young. My mother trained me that respect is earned and it goes both ways. Always be 110% and don't concern yourself with what the other guy is doing. The OP may think she was doing a great job but I'm willing to bet if the supervisor was on the DIS we'd hear a complete other story.

 

[Robinrs]

I'd have fired you long before she did. I don't need to pay someone to smart off to me - I can get that from my teens for free.

If you continue to smart off to your boss, this won't be the last job from which you are fired.

It sounds like both you and your boss have some growing up to do.

I cracked up at this!!!

The problem is too many parents ALLOW their kids to do this behavior so they have no problem doing it to other superiors later in life. My mother NEVER allowed mouthing off, and I don't either from my teenaged son. Not happening here or there.

 

[kinntj]

I cracked up at this!!!

The problem is too many parents ALLOW their kids to do this behavior so they have no problem doing it to other superiors later in life. My mother NEVER allowed mouthing off, and I don't either from my teenaged son. Not happening here or there.

I did too. I agree with your statement above.

If my boss called me in her/his office for correction, it was always a yes maam or sir. I never thought to call them out on what they weren't doing all day. What was I thinking? I could be moving from job to job and not be tied down.

 

[Kimmielee]

Wow, BOTH of you were extremely unprofessional. You ignored her direction about what you needed to work on instead of asking for prioritization. You were insubordinate with her in several of the conversations. She was unprofessional by yelling at you.

Clearly YOU aren't happy there and need to find another job. Going back on Monday will do nothing but continue the drama.