How does vandalism and looting accomplish anything???

[sunshinehighway]

The stop had nothing to do with any robbery, the officer didn't know there was a robbery. That's according to the FPD Chief. If anything, it's all part of the defense strategy for the officer.

Has that come out? If it has, then I have to wonder why the robbery was even brought up unless it was to make Brown look bad. I mean I thought it was to give an explanation of why he was stopped in the first place and put a spin on the story in favor of the PD. Of it wasn't even the reason for the stop them what's the point at all?

 

[Jex]

Who said he had a gun durung the robbery? There is no gun in those stills. He didn't point a gun at the clerk. It says a "strong armed robbery" which implies no weapon.

Imply means he implys that he has one,not that he brandished one.

 

[Ceila]

The stop had nothing to do with any robbery, the officer didn't know there was a robbery. That's according to the FPD Chief. If anything, it's all part of the defense strategy for the officer.

Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I thought there was a record of the police officer responding to the robbery.

 

[Jex]

Lets say that even if the cop was wrong, which I don't know enough facts to say either way. It would appear that he saved the taxpayers money in. The future as I am sure this guy was not commiting his last felony before he was changing his life.

 

[Geoff_M]

Has that come out? If it has, then I have to wonder why the robbery was even brought up unless it was to make Brown look bad. I mean I thought it was to give an explanation of why he was stopped in the first place and put a spin on the story in favor of the PD. Of it wasn't even the reason for the stop them what's the point at all?

I can think of several reasons:
1) It was reported from the start that the robbery started the sequence of events that ended with the shooting. So it didn't just become part of the story.
2) The rioters thought the store was involved, which is why one (the wrong location, iirc) was looted and burned... with "snitches get stitches" reportedly spray painted on it for good measure.
3) It might offer some possible insight as to why, if as reported, Brown might have had motive to assault a police officer a short time later if he thought he was about to be apprehended for the robbery.

 

[OurBigTrip]

**SHOCK**

Family spokesman says that the family is really upset that the photos of their son in the store were released to denigrate their son.

Spokesman also says that if rioting breaks out tonight, it comes back to the photos being released.

 

[penn19]

Looks like a choir boy to me.

 

[Gumbo4x4]

His assault on a police officer? Yeah nice try. That is something we simply don't know.

If I remember correctly you talked about your younger days and getting into quite a few fights before. I guess if someone wanted they could describe you as having assaulted people and paint you as dangerous. I mean that's what you are doing here right? Petty theft and shoving of a clerk (which is completely wrong but I know that's the point you all will jump on) actually means extremely dangerous criminal.
It just seems laughable coming from a guy who has discussed his history with getting into fights.

Okay, alleged assault with supporting evidence.



As for fighting, you have me confused with someone else. I've punched exactly 1 person in the past 36 years - and that was in response to him swinging first. I was 17. And I've certainly never been stupid enough to slug a cop.

 

[Gumbo4x4]

Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I thought there was a record of the police officer responding to the robbery.

Different officer

 

[Gumbo4x4]

I'll be interested in seeing the results of the toxicology tests. If you've just assaulted a clerk and stolen the property of others, why would you walk down the middle of the street, thus bringing attention to yourself?

And if the police officer didn't ask about the theft, why not just get out of the street when asked to?

Yup, I wondered the same.

 

[Disneychick75]

His assault on a police officer? Yeah nice try. That is something we simply don't know.

If I remember correctly you talked about your younger days and getting into quite a few fights before. I guess if someone wanted they could describe you as having assaulted people and paint you as dangerous. I mean that's what you are doing here right? Petty theft and shoving of a clerk (which is completely wrong but I know that's the point you all will jump on) actually means extremely dangerous criminal.
It just seems laughable coming from a guy who has discussed his history with getting into fights.

Has that come out? If it has, then I have to wonder why the robbery was even brought up unless it was to make Brown look bad. I mean I thought it was to give an explanation of why he was stopped in the first place and put a spin on the story in favor of the PD. Of it wasn't even the reason for the stop them what's the point at all?

So, it's been ok for the last several days to portray Wilson looking like a red neck gun toting yahoo with no facts to back it up but it isn't ok for a video to be shown of Brown committing a crime not long before the shooting?

 

[Flamingeaux]

To me the robbery could be the reason the kid reacted to the cop the way he is alleged.

 

[sunshinehighway]

Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I thought there was a record of the police officer responding to the robbery.

I guess we were all mistaken in thinking that. The police chief has come out and said the robbery is not the reason Brown was stopped. You can find that information on CNN.

 

[OurBigTrip]

So, it's been ok for the last several days to portray Wilson looking like a red neck gun toting yahoo with no facts to back it up but it isn't ok for a video to be shown of Brown committing a crime not long before the shooting?

Exactly. The "gentle giant" is now proven to be a thug, but the problem isn't that he was a thug, it's that people are being shown that he was a thug.

 

[brunette8706]

But the Ferguson PD Chief just said the police officer didn't know of the robbery. I doubt that walking in the street is a felony in MO.

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No, but what is a felony is when you assault an police officer and try to steal his gun.

 

[Geoff_M]

Okay, alleged assault with supporting evidence.

You know what the next big controversy will be, don't you? The injuries it's reported the officer was treated for that night. We'll all been down this path before, no? "Did he really suffer any?" "Look, here's proof there wasn't a mark on him the next day!" "Wait, OK, so he really was injured, but it doesn't look like it was really all that bad!"

 

[OurBigTrip]

You know what the next big controversy will be, don't you? The injuries it's reported the officer was treated for that night. We'll all been down this path before, no? "Did he really suffer any?" "Look, here's proof there wasn't a mark on him the next day!" "Wait, OK, so he really was injured, but it doesn't look like it was really all that bad!"

It's all in the memo...the police are supposed to let people assault them, steal their guns, shoot at them, throw Molotov cocktails at them, etc. And if they do anything in response, they're in the wrong.

As I said earlier, it the police are the problem, then the Ferguson police department should walk away and let the town burn.

 

[Gumbo4x4]

You know what the next big controversy will be, don't you? The injuries it's reported the officer was treated for that night. We'll all been down this path before, no? "Did he really suffer any?" "Look, here's proof there wasn't a mark on him the next day!" "Wait, OK, so he really was injured, but it doesn't look like it was really all that bad!"

Cop didn't die, therefore no assault




All that said, I'm still waiting to hear how the shooting took place.

 

[sukhakuli]

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No, but what is a felony is when you assault an police officer and try to steal his gun.

That may be a felony, but we don't execute people in the street for that in this country. Or, more accurately, we aren't supposed to. We are supposed to hold ourselves to a higher standard in America.

 

[OurBigTrip]

That may be a felony, but we don't execute people in the street for that in this country. Or, more accurately, we aren't supposed to. We are supposed to hold ourselves to a higher standard in America.

Like the rest of us, you have no idea what really happened.

IF Michael Brown was going for the gun, and the officer felt threatened, then he had every right to shoot and defend himself.