Holy Diagon Alley Batman!

[DisUniversal]

But if Universal is the new standard in innovation/technology as we have been repeatedly told and better than Disney then they shouldnt be having the same issues as Disney now should they?

The obvious question is why did they rush opening an attraction that wasnt ready to be opened yet.

And more specifically, why did they allow people in line for Gringotts this morning telling people it would be open at 9am and now just have it up and running at 11am? Now the posted wait time is like 7 hours.

 

[DisUniversal]

Just from a business perspective, sure, Disney is a large organization. So are others. Other large organizations get things done timely.

If the Disney structure is too complex, then it needs changing.

The job has to get done. Everything else is just excuses.

Right. As a company, isn't Comcast roughly the same size as Disney? They seem to get things done....well, unless you're sitting at home waiting for the cable guy.

 

[Gr8t Fan]

10:40am and people in line for Gringotts and ride still not up and running with no estimated time when it will be back up:

https://twitter.com/TouringPlans/status/487245527344357376

I guess even the new leaders in innovation and technology have problems with executing on it.

US may be having problems with Gringott's, but at least they're trying and not resting on their laurels like Disney has been doing for the past several years.

 

[fairyprincess88]

But if Universal is the new standard in innovation/technology as we have been repeatedly told and better than Disney then they shouldnt be having the same issues as Disney now should they?

The obvious question is why did they rush opening an attraction that wasnt ready to be opened yet.

And more specifically, why did they allow people in line for Gringotts this morning telling people it would be open at 9am and now just have it up and running at 11am? Now the posted wait time is like 7 hours.

I'm sorry but do you realize that you going on and on like this over something that no one is even surprised or concerned over is not really helping to make your point.

The reason most are saying Universal is the "innovation leader" has little to nothing to do with Gringotts. What people are ooohing and aaahing about is Diagon Alley, not just Gringotts. The media, the public, the industry leaders are discussing all of Diagon, NOT Gringotts when claiming it's "leadership". They are talking about the themeing, they are talking about the immersion, they are talking about the complete package.

As for Gringotts having issues, well duh. Most expected it as it's pretty much common for all new attractions, especially ones of this magnitude. You act as if this doesn't happen with pretty much every single new attraction that is not an off the shelf flat ride. And no, Universal did not rush it. You never know how a new attraction will fare under everyday operations until you try it and then you deal as you go along. Just like Universal has done before, just like Disney has done before.

Also trying to find ticked off people on Twitter and over and over using these issues as some "proof" that Universal is horrible and no good pretty much just makes you look like the you are and not as someone to be taken seriously at this point. When every single time you post the same thing and still everyone says "Yeah so. Nothing new here" you come back once again and say the same thing and still get the same response. At what point does it stop being worth the effort?

 

[PlutoMars]

Looks like Gringotts didnt open at 11am. People still waiting with no confirmed word yet.

Here is something that has truly been parrotted OVER and OVER again on this board:

"How much better Universal is."

Looks like the Universal apologists are at a loss for words when all they can do is post pictures.

 

[DisUniversal]

Looks like Gringotts didnt open at 11am. People still waiting with no confirmed word yet.

Here is something that has truly been parrotted OVER and OVER again on this board:

"How much better Universal is."

Looks like the Universal apologists are at a loss for words when all they can do is post pictures.

Conceal, don't feel, don't let them know....LET IT GO!!!

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

US may be having problems with Gringott's, but at least they're trying and not resting on their laurels like Disney has been doing for the past several years.

I could care less either way, but to be fair--there would be talk from the Universal fans if a Disney ride wasn't up and running when it is supposed to be.

We would consider a Universal add on for our next trip. But rides being down would be disappointing.

 

[Mad Hattered]

Looks like Gringotts didnt open at 11am. People still waiting with no confirmed word yet.

Here is something that has truly been parrotted OVER and OVER again on this board:

"How much better Universal is."

Looks like the Universal apologists are at a loss for words when all they can do is post pictures.

Not at all. It's not worth wasting our breath on a troll. Does that clear it up for you?

 

[mom2rtk]

US may be having problems with Gringott's, but at least they're trying and not resting on their laurels like Disney has been doing for the past several years.

BINGO! I cut a wide berth for companies willing to try hard and try new cutting edge things.

 

[Tonyz]

This may have already been addressed, but why does it take so long to add additions to WDW. Avatarland is not going to open until 2017 (please correct me if I am wrong)They started on the new fantasyland/mine train long before Diagon Alley even broke ground and it was up in a little over a year. What is the problem here. Transformers was added last year and there are strong rumors of an updated King Kong attraction. I love WDW, it is one of my favorite place on earth but they are seem contend to drift along. The new Fantasyland was the newest addition in years, Toy Mania is the only new thing in MGM in years and Soring is same at Epcot. For the amount they charge for tickets, food and parking alone they should be adding something new every two years instead of throwing away money on these darn MBs. Land is not a problem because they have not even put a dent in the land that Walt bought.

May be the most succinct explanation of Disney's current problems I've ever read.

 

[mom2rtk]

Not at all. It's not worth wasting our breath on a troll. Does that clear it up for you?

Or maybe too many people figured out how to use the ignore function.

 

[kbelle8995]

This may have already been addressed, but why does it take so long to add additions to WDW. Avatarland is not going to open until 2017 (please correct me if I am wrong)They started on the new fantasyland/mine train long before Diagon Alley even broke ground and it was up in a little over a year. What is the problem here. Transformers was added last year and there are strong rumors of an updated King Kong attraction. I love WDW, it is one of my favorite place on earth but they are seem contend to drift along. The new Fantasyland was the newest addition in years, Toy Mania is the only new thing in MGM in years and Soring is same at Epcot. For the amount they charge for tickets, food and parking alone they should be adding something new every two years instead of throwing away money on these darn MBs. Land is not a problem because they have not even put a dent in the land that Walt bought.

That's pretty much my feeling in a nutshell.

 

[PlutoMars]

I'm sorry but do you realize that you going on and on like this over something that no one is even surprised or concerned over is not really helping to make your point.

And most people around here is concerned about Universal overtaking Disney either but it doesnt stop the constant droning on and on on a Disney fan site no less about how much better Universal are and how they are the new leaders in innovation and technology

The reason most are saying Universal is the "innovation leader" has little to nothing to do with Gringotts. What people are ooohing and aaahing about is Diagon Alley, not just Gringotts. The media, the public, the industry leaders are discussing all of Diagon, NOT Gringotts when claiming it's "leadership". They are talking about the themeing, they are talking about the immersion, they are talking about the complete package.

Gringotts is a major component of Diagon Alley. I have admitted that Universal had done a superior job with immersion with Diagon Alley. Not discounting that work at all.

As for Gringotts having issues, well duh. Most expected it as it's pretty much common for all new attractions, especially ones of this magnitude. You act as if this doesn't happen with pretty much every single new attraction that is not an off the shelf flat ride. And no, Universal did not rush it. You never know how a new attraction will fare under everyday operations until you try it and then you deal as you go along. Just like Universal has done before, just like Disney has done before.

Again, if Universal is the new standard then they will not make the same mistakes that Disney made with their new attractions and technology. Right? If people say they are the new high water mark then why are they expressing this many problems with an attraction? It is obvious that Universal did rush the Gringotts ride. It broke on media day. Universal held off on announcing opening day of Diagon Alley but they had to have the park open during the summer so there was pressure to have Gringotts operational as well. I didnt see these same people having patience with Disney when they had problems with their new technology.

Also trying to find ticked off people on Twitter and over and over using these issues as some "proof" that Universal is horrible and no good pretty much just makes you look like the you are and not as someone to be taken seriously at this point. When every single time you post the same thing and still everyone says "Yeah so. Nothing new here" you come back once again and say the same thing and still get the same response. At what point does it stop being worth the effort?

Where did I EVER say Universal is horrible? I didnt say that. My point remains that there is a double standard with the Universal apologists here. They wear the Universal rose colored glasses just as much as the Disney fans who bleed pixie dust

 

[PlutoMars]

BINGO! I cut a wide berth for companies willing to try hard and try new cutting edge things.

SO you would have waited in a line at 7am this morning when Universal workers told you that the attraction would open at 9am only to have them finally have it up and running by 1130am?

You think its acceptable for Universal to allow people to start lining up within the attraction when they really dont know when the attraction will be fixed?

I imagine you would have a lot to say if this happened at Disney

 

[Planogirl]

Or maybe too many people figured out how to use the ignore function.

 

[PlutoMars]

Not at all. It's not worth wasting our breath on a troll. Does that clear it up for you?

I guess in your lack of a defense for all the latitudes you exclaimed about Universal and how much better they are than Disney that you resort to calling me names. That speaks volumes alone.

Now, can you explain why Universal told people that Gringotts was to be open at 9am this morning and allowed people in the line within the attraction and then not communicate with them. Only for it just to start being operational at 1130am?

Shouldnt the leader in innovation/technology be better than Disney when opening a new attraction? Shouldnt they execute better than this?

Why is this acceptable at Universal and not at Disney?

 

[kbelle8995]

Here's my perspective.

What's Worse Waiting 7 hours for a ride (Universal) or waiting 5 hours for a meet and greet (Disney). Neither is acceptable to my way of thinking. But I am still planning on seeing Gringotts at some point this year (not this summer) and I am not even thinking about Anna and Elsa

It's on what you deem as okay and for some that Anna and Elsa for others it's Gringotts.

Also for me there are other things I'm not thrilled about at Disney. So it's not one thing but a whole bunch. Disney is not perfect nor is Universal. Both do things incorrectly and both do others really well.

But FOR ME and Only for me Universal is winning out at the tug of war for my vacation.

 

[RescueRanger]

Or maybe too many people figured out how to use the ignore function.

Yeah, I just added Plutomars to my ignore list. I generally like to hear from both sides of an issue, but I believe he is here just to stir. In fact, I personally believe he is a paid internet hack on the Disney payroll. There are a few on this board that I feel this way about. I've been to Disney dozens of trips,I own DVC, and I've only been to Universal three times. So, its pretty obvious which park I have the most invested in. However, Universal is giving people new lands and rides while Disney is going "eh... We're still making money, lets just wait it out."

 

[DisUniversal]

Again, if Universal is the new standard then they will not make the same mistakes that Disney made with their new attractions and technology.

The biggest mistake Disney is making is not having new attractions and technology and fortunately Universal is not making that mistake.

 

[robpa]

SO you would have waited in a line at 7am this morning when Universal workers told you that the attraction would open at 9am only to have them finally have it up and running by 1130am?

You think its acceptable for Universal to allow people to start lining up within the attraction when they really dont know when the attraction will be fixed?

I imagine you would have a lot to say if this happened at Disney

It is painfully obvious that you have never worked on anything mechanical. They probably thought that they had the problem figured out and they would have it up and running at 9:30. I'm also pretty sure that no one was forced by the Universal staff to stand in line. They stood there under their own free will. You weren't standing in line so why do you care?