Has anyone ever fudged the number of people in your room?

[DVCBELLE]

This is a fire code. Worst case scenario? There's a fire or other disaster, your family is incapacitated, and the firemen don't find one of your kids because they weren't listed. Is it really worth it?

Okay - I get that people find this morally wrong and that is a decision that has to be made by the OP (who incidentally b/c she has a child under 3 can add him to the room with no problems.)

but I don't think the firemen get a listing of how many people are in each room when they go into a burning building to save people.

 

[DisneyKT]

Do I think people do this. Yes all the time. Would I do it. No way. That is alot of people for one small room. That would drive me crazy being packed in like that after a long day in the parks. Good Luck to you.

 

[mrsklamc]

but I don't think the firemen get a listing of how many people are in each room when they go into a burning building to save people.

No, but they do know what the fire codes are for Disney hotels and how many people should reasonably be expected to be in a room in the middle of the night. It's POSSIBLE that having found 6 they would not look for a 7th.

 

[DVCBELLE]

No, but they do know what the fire codes are for Disney hotels and how many people should reasonably be expected to be in a room in the middle of the night. It's POSSIBLE that having found 6 they would not look for a 7th.

While I see your way of thinking there are some flaws to it.

Since Disney actually would allow all 7 of them to stay in this room...that is a risk either way.

I also think that since there are scenarios where you would exceed room capacity that are perfectly acceptable it is likely that rescuers do not go by room capacity. I believe they are trained to search the entire room and they really would have no way of knowing when they are in a room what actual capacity is.

Let's say the room has occupancy of 4 - they search and find 2 people but noone else - they won't stay in the room until they find 4 people. They will follow their search procedures and move on.

Let's say the room capacity is 4 - and I am traveling in a group of 8 (sister and I plus 6 kids). I have 2 rooms of 4 but my sister and I are in one room getting ready and the 6 kids are in the other room watching tv. That is perfectly acceptable and I am not breaking any Disney rules by letting the kids do this...

As I said, I get that people have issues with this...but I also think trying to scare the OP with scenarios that won't happen isn't fair.

The time I did it with my mom...Disney knew she was in the room - she stood there at check-in with me. Or the person who didn't add someone with a feeding tube on to avoid the Dining plan - yet Disney knew he was there. So the points that if you don't tell them that you are all there is putting your life at risk don't fly - b/c if that is really how they sweep rooms in a fire - Disney would be in HUGE trouble for allowing a group to leave someone off the room reservation.

 

[SandrA9810]

if you want to be cheap... Drive down and go camping. The fort is a lot of fun. And camping is fun... Plus you can list up to ten people per site. Want to live it up?? There's several diser's that rent their personal travel trailers. They'll bring it, set it up, and take it when you're done. And you can set up tents on your site for the older ones so you have plenty of room.

for a family of 7, you're just gonna have to go with a bigger place. Or else you're gonna have a frustrating time doing anything in the room. At least at the campgrounds there 's 4 toilets and 4 showers for men and women.

 

[Princess Disney Mom]

Don't do it. YOu won't have ME, EMH for your child. This may violate fire codes and if caught then thrown out. Not a fun vacation.

 

[dzorn]

No way would I try to fit 7 into a moderate. Heck we bought DVC when we had two trip in a row with 5 at POR because it was so crowded three of which were kids.


BTW you can only count 1 child under three for capacity. If someone had twins under 3 one would count toward room capacity.

While Disney may allow under unusual circumstances (such as no dining plan for someone on a feeding tube) someone to not be listed on a reservation if that someone puts them over capacity you will find they are not as accomidating.

Denise in MI

 

[a1tinkfans]

Do I think people do this. Yes all the time. Would I do it. No way. That is alot of people for one small room. That would drive me crazy being packed in like that after a long day in the parks. Good Luck to you.

And yes, unfortunately situations do arise, I'd be mortified if I were found out and Lying. Its just not me! I say to each his/her own....I am sure many do it....

 

[MaumeeMom]

Hold it!

I've worked at three strip properties here in Las Vegas and while it isn't Orlando, if you are an unregistered hotel guest anywhere, there can be HUGE ramifications if there is ever a situation where you need the hotel's assistance.

If there is an emergency (fire, etc) and the property is evacuated and you have to leave stuff behind, like suitcases, handbags, medicine, tickets, IDs, cash, etc - you do NOT have the same status as a hotel guest with respect to getting these items returned to you.

If you are injured and the hotel is at fault and you are an unregistered guest, same thing. The hotel does not have the same level of responsibility to you as they would to a registered guest.

I would NEVER try this, ever, no matter how much money I would save. I worked at a property (Bally's) that had a fire in 1980. I worked with the person who had the responsibility of returning luggage to hotel guests . . . and also, those who were not guests. What was described to me was the most giant, unforgiving responsibility and I had the utmost respect for what she went through after the fire to make everything right again and return guest's luggage and property to them. For this reason alone I would never lie about how many people I had in a hotel room just to save a few dollars.

Probably nothing. People do what you're describing all the time. If hotel operations at each Disney Property checked every room for how many people vs bedding, then they'd never get any work done. But it's not something I would do, simply based on my experience working in the hotel industry.

Thank you for sharing your info. This is the first thing I thought of when I read the OP's post.

This is a fire code. Worst case scenario? There's a fire or other disaster, your family is incapacitated, and the firemen don't find one of your kids because they weren't listed. Is it really worth it?

Okay - I get that people find this morally wrong and that is a decision that has to be made by the OP (who incidentally b/c she has a child under 3 can add him to the room with no problems.)

but I don't think the firemen get a listing of how many people are in each room when they go into a burning building to save people.

The firemen/rescue/recovery workers would definitely be given a list of registered guests. There would be a command center or person in charge given this information at the time of the event. It is helpful if it is accurate. It is similar to manifests used at the time of plane crashes. Have you ever seen pictures of an apartment building after it has burned? The doors are usually marked with symbols showing how many people are on the lease, if any were found/escaped and noting that the apt. had been searched.

I personally would never do this but that is me, OP needs to make her own choices but at least she can make and educated decision now that people have explained why accuracy is important.

Good luck, OP.

 

[Hannathy]

I always worried when I had 2 kids in the room that they would make too much noise, I can't even imagine keeping 5 kids in one room quiet!!! Going with this scenario children's normal noise x 5 in one room could disturb the neighbors who will call Disney and if the people next door happen to notice how many kids are in there I'm sure that would speed up the calling to complain.


The thing with some of the other examples given by other posters are even tho the person isn't on the reservation they are still with in the LEGAL limit for that room. If my friend from Orlando decides to spend the night with me in my room it is true that I haven't paid for them BUT I am allowed to have 4 in my room so I would be within the allowed number. THe OP is asking to go over the limit for the room and that makes a big difference.

 

[Rosiekins]

Consider the cabins, Lots of space, your own little "yard" and a full kitchen!

 

[Deb & Bill]

...The thing with some of the other examples given by other posters are even tho the person isn't on the reservation they are still with in the LEGAL limit for that room. If my friend from Orlando decides to spend the night with me in my room it is true that I haven't paid for them BUT I am allowed to have 4 in my room so I would be within the allowed number. THe OP is asking to go over the limit for the room and that makes a big difference.

However, when Disney says that everyone staying on the reservation must have the same package, you just can't add someone to your room without adding the dining plan and tickets - UNLESS you do it and Disney says it's not a problem. You have to ask first, not just assume that you can do it. And when they say it's okay, it's okay.

 

[Ambersmith6364]

My answer is yes. I'm one of seven kids and have been to disney around 70 times and many of those times have we had 1 or 2 many people in our room. I really wouldnt make a big deal out of it. Have fun!!

 

[retired and happy]

I know it is tempting to leave a name off the reservation but I think you would feel better explaining your situation to someone at Disney and ask them for advice on saving money and having all of you stay together.
We have 3 handicapped children, all in wheel chairs, and two do NOT eat except through a feeding tube. Well one can eat things like a little pudding or applesauce. When we buy tickets for any of the dinner shows we HAVE to pay full price for them even though they can NOT eat. Disney says we are paying for the show not the food. It really does not seem fair, but we pay anyway. Same for the tickets. Our children are too big for us to lift out of their chairs now so there are only a couple of rides they can
get on. But we still have to pay the same price for them as we do our grandchildren who can ride nearly everything there.

While in Tennessee last summer for the 4th of July week,
we visited Ghost Town. They did not charge anything for the children in wheel chairs. Also, when we were buying tickets for Santa Land, they would not charge for anyone
in a wheel chair or was handicapped. Those people care.

Having said all this, we still visit Disney every Christmas
for about 3 weeks and pay whatever it cost. Our children
are unable to do much but their faces light up when the
characters come running to them. It is worth it to us.

Enjoy your trip.

 

[lilstint]

I know it is tempting to leave a name off the reservation but I think you would feel better explaining your situation to someone at Disney and ask them for advice on saving money and having all of you stay together.
We have 3 handicapped children, all in wheel chairs, and two do NOT eat except through a feeding tube. Well one can eat things like a little pudding or applesauce. When we buy tickets for any of the dinner shows we HAVE to pay full price for them even though they can NOT eat. Disney says we are paying for the show not the food. It really does not seem fair, but we pay anyway. Same for the tickets. Our children are too big for us to lift out of their chairs now so there are only a couple of rides they can
get on. But we still have to pay the same price for them as we do our grandchildren who can ride nearly everything there.

While in Tennessee last summer for the 4th of July week,
we visited Ghost Town. They did not charge anything for the children in wheel chairs. Also, when we were buying tickets for Santa Land, they would not charge for anyone
in a wheel chair or was handicapped. Those people care.

Having said all this, we still visit Disney every Christmas
for about 3 weeks and pay whatever it cost. Our children
are unable to do much but their faces light up when the
characters come running to them. It is worth it to us.

Enjoy your trip.

This post has truly left me speechless.

 

[Deb & Bill]

I know it is tempting to leave a name off the reservation but I think you would feel better explaining your situation to someone at Disney and ask them for advice on saving money and having all of you stay together.
We have 3 handicapped children, all in wheel chairs, and two do NOT eat except through a feeding tube. Well one can eat things like a little pudding or applesauce. When we buy tickets for any of the dinner shows we HAVE to pay full price for them even though they can NOT eat. Disney says we are paying for the show not the food. It really does not seem fair, but we pay anyway. Same for the tickets. Our children are too big for us to lift out of their chairs now so there are only a couple of rides they can
get on. But we still have to pay the same price for them as we do our grandchildren who can ride nearly everything there.

While in Tennessee last summer for the 4th of July week,
we visited Ghost Town. They did not charge anything for the children in wheel chairs. Also, when we were buying tickets for Santa Land, they would not charge for anyone
in a wheel chair or was handicapped. Those people care.

Having said all this, we still visit Disney every Christmas
for about 3 weeks and pay whatever it cost. Our children
are unable to do much but their faces light up when the
characters come running to them. It is worth it to us.

Enjoy your trip.

And that, in my opinion, says it all. Enjoy your trips. Your children are very lucky to have you.

 

[jenseib]

A few years ago I remember reading about a family who got caught with more people than the maximum capacity and they got thrown out of the hotel. I wish I could remember the details.

Regardless, I wouldn't try it.

I read that too

 

[kaytieeldr]

This is a fire code. Worst case scenario? There's a fire or other disaster, your family is incapacitated, and the firemen don't find one of your kids because they weren't listed. Is it really worth it?

It's not that additional/snuck-in Guests aren't listed; it's more that, with a typical maximum occupancy of four people, firefighters could be reasonably not expected to search for Guests number five, six, and seven...

Since Disney actually would allow all 7 of them to stay in this room...that is a risk either way.

Disney would allow seven people to stay in WHAT room?

Let's say the room capacity is 4 - and I am traveling in a group of 8 (sister and I plus 6 kids). I have 2 rooms of 4 but my sister and I are in one room getting ready and the 6 kids are in the other room watching tv.

Odds are, with all eight people awake and alert, they'd be able to get themselves out of the room - especially connecting rooms where, if one door was blocked they could exit through the other room. Official occupancy during a fire would matter to the firefighters at night - when everyone is asleep.

The other problem with overloading the room is the strain on facilities. You have a resort with 2,000 rooms which holds four Guests per room. Adding even one Guest each to 1/4 of the rooms is an additional five hundred people - but the Front Desk and Lobby Concierge are staffed for 8,000*, not 8,500*. The food court is staffed and supplied in a similar manner. Bus dispatch schedules enough buses for 8,000*, not 8,500*.

*Since all staffing and features are determined based on actual expected occupancy, it's entirely reasonable that if there are only 4,000 Guests reserved, all scheduling and supplies will be based on that number - not 4,500

 

[J3nn78]

I am glad this topic came up. I have wanted to post, but was not sure how to word it and knew that flaming would ensue
We are facing a similar situation this summer. My parents have decided to join us. Making our party of 4 a party of 6. We are going to opt to leave our DS3 off of our reservation. HOWEVER, we will be buying him a park ticket and paying for his meals. We are in no way trying to pass him off as an under 3, even though we could. I am not out to cheat Disney.
We will be staying at Poly. The two beds will be for the 4 adults and the day bed will be shared by our boys.
I have been really worried about how this will work out, but I think it will be fine. We are not flying, so no ME needed. We are not partaking in EMH so no worry there.
We will be on the dining plan, so we will have to pay OOP for his meals, if he does not share them with the us or his brother at the non buffet places.

 

[toddlers_mom]

Don't do it. YOu won't have ME, EMH for your child. This may violate fire codes and if caught then thrown out. Not a fun vacation.

Minus ME, the child is under 3 therefore they wouldn't need a pass for EMH anyway. They wouldn't have a room key or a ticket to the park.