Harry and Meghan Netflix documentary

[Karin1984]

Can we please stop the bickering, we are here not to bicker, we are here to be amazed by everything that comes out of Harry's (& Meghan's) mouth in the form of a documentary or a book.
We are not going to reach an agreement if you are solid in 'one camp or the other'. There is no use to keep trying. And you don't have to respond to everything the other is saying. We are not Harry.

Harry does watch the Crown (Daily Mail)
Prince Harry has confirmed that he watches Netflix's controversial series The Crown - laughing as he revealed in a new bombshell TV interview that he has watched the 'more recent' episodes that portray 'sensationalized' accounts of his late mother Diana's bulimia battle and her bitter divorce from Charles.

The 38-year-old made the admission during an appearance on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, with a teaser trailer for the pre-taped sit-down capturing Harry laughing uproariously while joking to the TV host that he 'fact checks' the highly-criticized show.

'Yes I have actually watched The Crown,' Harry - who has a production deal with Netflix that is reported to be worth $100 million - told Colbert after the late night host asked if he had seen the series.

The older stuff and the more recent stuff.'

Harry then burst into fits of laughter and mimed taking notes as Colbert questioned whether he 'fact checks' the show - before admitting: 'Yes, I do actually.'
He then suggested that The Crown does not offer an entirely factual version of events - before pointing at his bombshell memoir Spare as an apparent example of accuracy, saying: 'Which is why it's so important that history has it right.'

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Again, how are you privy to their relationship their whole lives? This is the problem with this thread. You hear snippet of parts of their lives and a whole healthy dose of a bunch of lies from the scandal sheets, and all of a sudden, everyone is an expert on their lives. It truly is disturbing how so many are this emotionally involved and being toxic about them. It's not healthy. I am sorry, but I don't understand this level of hate that some of you have.

I guess you didn’t read or understand what I said before. You are free to stay or go, or feel disturbed or not. Whatever. Harry and Meghan are loving the spotlight this has created (because it makes them more money). Following their stories is no different than following sports, music, or other things of interest. Your comments don’t change anything.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Harry does watch the Crown (Daily Mail)
Prince Harry has confirmed that he watches Netflix's controversial series The Crown - laughing as he revealed in a new bombshell TV interview that he has watched the 'more recent' episodes that portray 'sensationalized' accounts of his late mother Diana's bulimia battle and her bitter divorce from Charles.

The 38-year-old made the admission during an appearance on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, with a teaser trailer for the pre-taped sit-down capturing Harry laughing uproariously while joking to the TV host that he 'fact checks' the highly-criticized show.

'Yes I have actually watched The Crown,' Harry - who has a production deal with Netflix that is reported to be worth $100 million - told Colbert after the late night host asked if he had seen the series.

The older stuff and the more recent stuff.'

Harry then burst into fits of laughter and mimed taking notes as Colbert questioned whether he 'fact checks' the show - before admitting: 'Yes, I do actually.'
He then suggested that The Crown does not offer an entirely factual version of events - before pointing at his bombshell memoir Spare as an apparent example of accuracy, saying: 'Which is why it's so important that history has it right.'

I’m surprised he’s not more outraged about that, especially since his mother is portrayed, probably inaccurately (as he says, and I’ve read elsewhere. I haven’t watched it myself). Do you think it’s because he doesn’t want to poke the bear (ie Netflix)?

 

[TLSnell1981]

Harry filmed a skit with Tom Hanks for Colbert. It mocks the monarchy. He has also stated he's never moving back to the UK. Remind me...why should he and his offspring retain their titles and places in the line of succession? They despise the RF and the UK. It really seems like a no brainer.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Harry filmed a skit with Tom Hanks for Colbert. It mocks the monarchy. He has also stated he's never moving back to the UK. Remind me...why should he and his offspring retain their titles and their places in the line of succession? They despise the RF and the UK. It really seems like a no brainer.

Not sure how he can be so sure he’ll never move back at this point in his life. Didn’t Ozzy move back?

 

[kyton]

I do think it’s hilarious that a poster says H & M have every right to cut off and alienate Meghan’s father for “betrayal” ie telling media his side of his truth and showing actual written documents from the two YET when the same 2 people do the same thing, they are to be respected and shown love, no matter the pain they inflict on others ?

 

[WebmasterMaryJo]

Sorry, guys. The discussion has turned into a debate in parts with arguing, attacking, etc., and there are too many posts to read through to clean it up.

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Reopening the thread. Please remember to be courteous to each other and if you disagree with someone please do not attack them as that derails the discussion and is against the Disboard guidelines.

 

[Ms Bibbidi]

I am sorry but what? Do you know these people personally? I don't care how loving a father he was to her growing up, once he betrayed her and sold their personal conversations and did interviews about her, he lost any good will that he had. People are not beholden to their parents just because the parents provided for them growing up.

Oh, I disagree. I would think the majority of people believe that Mr. Markle provided a great deal for a daughter he dearly loved. He provided a home, private education and for some time was a single parent. Past stories show some affection between them. I believe the vast majority of the public believes she owes him some honor, respect, the benefit of the doubt and not holding him to rigid, inelastic standards when he is willing to learn how to do things in her new world which is unfamiliar to him. His very short experience with press interviews was not such a great sin. It was not such a huge betrayal. But Meghan responded with a nuclear option designed to cause him maximum emotional pain and made it public to the whole world. Giving someone the silent treatment is the strongest, most painful emotional abuse an adult child can inflict on a parent. Meghan did this in public out of hatred and anger. It is Meghan’s control issue on display there. She is the emotional abuser of Mr. Markle and he is the victim. But, for his sake, I feel that her behavior and Harry’s enabling so crossed the line I hope Mr. Markle has the strength to never allow them a way back to him. He richly deserves some self care.

 

[Karin1984]

By the looks of it, the Colbert interview was not that interesting.

Prince Harry accuses royals of trying to 'undermine' his explosive memoir Spare because it makes them 'uncomfortable' and 'scared'​

(Daily Mail)
Prince Harry has sensationally accused the monarchy of trying to 'undermine' his explosive memoir Spare because its controversial contents have 'perhaps made them feel uncomfortable and scared' as he launched another furious attack on the royal family in the latest in a line of TV interviews to promote his book.

One of the more serious moments during the lengthy sit-down saw Harry rounding on his relatives over the backlash to his memoir, with Colbert questioning whether he believes the royals have an 'active campaign to undermine this book'.

'Of course,' the duke responded - adding that 'the British Press' has also been complicit in the 'campaign', with Colbert chiming in: 'But aided and abetted by the Palace.'

'Again of course,' Harry confirmed. 'But this is the other side of the story, right? After 38 years, they have told their side of the story. This is the other side of the story.'

The father-of-two then suggested that what he perceives as the royals' 'campaign' against his memoir has come as a result of them being 'uncomfortable and scared' over its contents.

'There is a lot in there that, perhaps, makes people feel uncomfortable and scared,' he continued.

 

[Karin1984]

Thank God, Harold's necklace got fixed

Harry reveals he still wears 'fixed' necklace William 'broke' during physical row - and shows charms of kids' heartbeats and tiger's eye pendant made by friend in Botswana

(Daily Mail)
Harry confirmed that he is still wearing the necklace he accused his brother of ripping from his neck during a physical attack in 2019 - showing off the 'now fixed' jewelry for the cameras.

In one of the most extraordinary lines in his memoir, Harry writes that his brother branded Meghan 'rude' and 'difficult', resulting in what he says was William attacking him, alleging: '[William] grabbed me by the collar, ripping my necklace, and he knocked me to the floor.'

The story prompted a firestorm of controversy - one that Colbert brought up yet again during the interview when he asked Prince Harry about 'the physical fight', questioning: 'There is a lot of talk about the physical fight that the two of you had, where he pushed you down in the kitchen and broke the dog bowl, when you fell on it.

'It says he broke your necklace. What necklace was this that he broke?'

'Uh, this one, which is now fixed,' Harry replied, pulling out a black leather cord from his shirt and showing off three silver pendants that dangled from it - two of which are engraved with cardiograms [heartbeats] of his two children, Archie and Lilibet, and the third of which 'a friend in Botswana made for me and which has got a tiger's eye in the middle'.

'It's got my kids' heartbeats, which my wife gave me,' said Harry, showing off silver plaques with the cardiograms of his children engraved.

'And then a friend of mine in Botswana made this for me, which has got tiger's eye in the middle.'

Tiger's eye is said to bring power, inner strength, healing and courage. Some cultures believe it wards off the evil eye.

It is an inexpensive stone, mainly found in South Africa, but with deposits also found in Namibia, Australia, India, and Thailand.

 

[Ms Bibbidi]

I have to laugh. The RF response has been no response. Harry’s accusation here is so typical. A blow by blow response is what Harry wants to increase demand for his media appearances so he can make more money. So if the palace/RF response is silence, Harry just makes up accusations of a response (without any facts) so he has something to push back against.

 

[BayouQueen]

Oh, I disagree. I would think the majority of people believe that Mr. Markle provided a great deal for a daughter he dearly loved. He provided a home, private education and for some time was a single parent. Past stories show some affection between them. I believe the vast majority of the public believes she owes him some honor, respect, the benefit of the doubt and not holding him to rigid, inelastic standards when he is willing to learn how to do things in her new world which is unfamiliar to him. His very short experience with press interviews was not such a great sin. It was not such a huge betrayal. But Meghan responded with a nuclear option designed to cause him maximum emotional pain and made it public to the whole world. Giving someone the silent treatment is the strongest, most painful emotional abuse an adult child can inflict on a parent. Meghan did this in public out of hatred and anger. It is Meghan’s control issue on display there. She is the emotional abuser of Mr. Markle and he is the victim. But, for his sake, I feel that her behavior and Harry’s enabling so crossed the line I hope Mr. Markle has the strength to never allow them a way back to him. He richly deserves some self care.

Seems like Mr. Markle did only what Harry is now doing -- he tried to control his own story and be paid for his own story. But Mr. Markle was cut out of his daughter's life for doing that.

 

[BayouQueen]

I have to laugh. The RF response has been no response. Harry’s accusation here is so typical. A blow by blow response is what Harry wants to increase demand for his media appearances so he can make more money. So if the palace/RF response is silence, Harry just makes up accusations of a response (without any facts) so he has something to push back against.

This had me scratching my head, too.
It's amazing that none of the interviewers call him out on any of this stuff.

 

[Karin1984]

I have to laugh. The RF response has been no response. Harry’s accusation here is so typical. A blow by blow response is what Harry wants to increase demand for his media appearances so he can make more money. So if the palace/RF response is silence, Harry just makes up accusations of a response (without any facts) so he has something to push back against.

That's another thing that's so strange. It has to be public.
If the story is true: Kate made Meg cry, and a day later she came by to apologize. And she (later?) told Meghan that she knew it was her mistake, she made Meghan cry.

So, that's an apology, personal, 1-1, not flashy. How it should be handled. But Harry didn't like it because there was no one speaking out in the press that it was Kate to defend Meghan. It's all about image. It's not about the personal relationships.

While a very good reason not to report it to the media is that you want to look like a normal functioning family.

 

[Ms Bibbidi]

Seems like Mr. Markle did only what Harry is now doing -- he tried to control his own story and be paid for his own story. But Mr. Markle was cut out of his daughter's life for doing that.

I normally do not get worked up over other people’s business, but Meghan’s treatment of Mr. Markle was — and continues to be — abhorrent. Harry’s allowing it to continue is on the same plane. If I could talk to Mr. Markle, I would try to leave him with a firm conviction that even though this was very painful for him it is a good thing because he is fully justified to go forward in life without her hurting him. He should consider himself finally free of her. There should be a way to legally divorce or end a parent and adult child or adult sibling relationship because he needs that public finality. So do Charles and William.

 

[Karin1984]

Ok, I am not very up to date with people who hunt (do we have hunters here? I know some parts of the US hunting is considered a sport), but is this kind of hazing also a thing in the US or is it just a Royal Family thing?

And can we agree that 'ghillie' is a beautiful word that shouldn't get lost over time?

Blood and guts for teenage Prince Harry when his head was pushed inside carcass of stag he shot​

Prince Harry’s head was pushed inside the still-warm carcass of the first stag he shot at Balmoral.

In his memoir, Spare, he recalls how a ghillie called Sandy slit its belly and told Harry to kneel.

He thought they were going to pray, but his head was pushed into the body as a ‘blooding’.

He adds: ‘I tried to pull away, but Sandy pushed me deeper. I was shocked...by the infernal smell. My breakfast jumped up from my stomach....After a minute I couldn’t smell anything, because I couldn’t breathe. My nose and mouth were full of blood, guts, and a deep, upsetting warmth.’

He wasn’t even allowed to wipe his face clean afterwards but later felt he had been ‘good to Nature’ by helping to manage the deer population.

He reveals that his first ‘blooding’ was done by his nanny, Tiggy Legge-Bourke, who dipped her fingers in rabbit blood, smeared it ‘tenderly’ down his face and said: ‘Well done darling!’

Harry was just 15 when he killed the creature, he wrote in the memoir.

 

[Karin1984]

Things I hadn't thought about as a consequence of Harry's memoirs.

Prince Harry lookalike forced to disguise himself in public as he fears for his life
(The Mirror)
A Prince Harry lookalike has been forced to disguise himself in public as he fears for his life after the royal revealed his 'kill count' - enraging the Taliban.
The Duke of Sussex has been slammed for announcing in new memoir Spare that he took the lives of 25 members of the Islamic fundamentalist group during service in Afghanistan.


Harry has “played beautifully into the hands of the Taliban”, according to international security specialist Will Geddes, and has put his family in the firing line for a possible revenge attack.

But the Prince has also put Rhys Whittock at risk with his remarks too.

The 39-year-old been forced to disguise himself after Harry's recent revelations and says he feels like target for terrorists looking for retribution.

Mr Whittock has worked as a Prince Harry lookalike since 2017 - and has travelled all over the world with his uncanny likeness to the fifth-in-line to the throne.

Now the lookalike has taken to disguising himself when in public after his mum begged him to make sure he isn't mistaken for the Prince.

The man, who is originally from Cardiff, but doesn't want to reveal where in the UK he currently lives, because of the terror threat, said: "I started to feel uneasy when I heard that Harry was talking about his time in the army.


"My mum texted me and it left me with goosebumps. It just said: 'Because of Harry's admission in the army he is now a target. You need to wear glasses in public'.

"People mistake me for Harry every single day so it is a worry when you're the lookalike of someone facing a sudden increase in security threats.

"Experts agree it was a mistake to release this information. He has put himself and family at extra unnecessary risk.

"I think his memoir should have been run past British security first. It's quite bizarre that it never had been, as he will require extra security in future in the UK at the coronation this year for example.

"He will require lots of extra security for some time now. While I do look a lot like him, I'm not surrounded by an entourage when I'm out and about so I would think it should be clear to most people I'm not the real Harry but there are crazy people out there.

"I haven't been offered any security before for jobs that I carry out but I would be very hesitant to do one in the current climate without security for being mistaken as the real Prince Harry.

"Normally it's quite nice to run into people who think I'm Harry, but I've made sure I've kept my hat on over the last few days.

"As you can imagine, I've always been a big fan of Prince Harry, but I think everybody, including me, by the constant private family revelations."

Rhys claims he is still being booked for regular work, including being asked alongside a Meghan Markle lookalike to re-enact parts of their infamous Oprah interview for TV stations around the world.

And he hopes he will still be able to work alongside pals who work as lookalikes for the Prince and Princess of Wales - although he admits they'll probably be posing for 'family at war' photoshoots.

Rhys added: "I've always really liked Prince Harry but he needs to move forward with his life.

"The problem I see though is the constant, seemingly never-ending drip-feeding speaking out is losing impact with the public with every new detail. We're tired of it and just want something much more positive.

"I am often now asked not to smile as much when I am doing lookalike work - Harry used to always be grinning, but now, people don't believe it's him if I turn up with a smile.

"Many people are concerned for Harry's wellbeing. He strikes me as deeply unhappy, angry, paranoid and isolated. I have to rein-in my smiles at work because Harry doesn't smile nearly as much as he used to.
"When I started this lookalike career, Prince Harry was universally loved and frequently noted as the nation's second favourite royal, behind our much-loved Queen.

"He had a wicked sense of humour, seemed to have a great human touch with people - like his mother Diana - and a very good relationship with not only his brother William, but also with Catherine.

"They always appeared very close at public engagements so it's been very sad to witness these previous close family relationships break down and in a very public fashion."

 

[BayouQueen]

That's another thing that's so strange. It has to be public.
If the story is true: Kate made Meg cry, and a day later she came by to apologize. And she (later?) told Meghan that she knew it was her mistake, she made Meghan cry.

So, that's an apology, personal, 1-1, not flashy. How it should be handled. But Harry didn't like it because there was no one speaking out in the press that it was Kate to defend Meghan. It's all about image. It's not about the personal relationships.

While a very good reason not to report it to the media is that you want to look like a normal functioning family.

I still don't think we know what happened here. (Not that it really matters; it's very trivial and was blown way out of proportion.)
To me, Kate bringing the flowers isn't even an admission of any "guilt," but just a kind gesture to smooth things over with an emotional bride. Spinning out the story that Kate then later said this or that just feels like embroidery. When I saw this bit in the Oprah interview, my perception was that there was some spur of the moment brain work going on.

It's weird how this story took off. Emotional brides and bickering amongst family members goes with the territory in any wedding -- royal or not. All Meghan had to say was, "Oh, it was nothing." But as you said, image is everything. Kate bad -- Meghan good.

 

[Titanium]

Can we please stop the bickering, we are here not to bicker, we are here to be amazed by everything that comes out of Harry's (& Meghan's) mouth in the form of a documentary or a book.
We are not going to reach an agreement if you are solid in 'one camp or the other'. There is no use to keep trying. And you don't have to respond to everything the other is saying. We are not Harry.

Harry does watch the Crown (Daily Mail)
Prince Harry has confirmed that he watches Netflix's controversial series The Crown - laughing as he revealed in a new bombshell TV interview that he has watched the 'more recent' episodes that portray 'sensationalized' accounts of his late mother Diana's bulimia battle and her bitter divorce from Charles.

The 38-year-old made the admission during an appearance on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, with a teaser trailer for the pre-taped sit-down capturing Harry laughing uproariously while joking to the TV host that he 'fact checks' the highly-criticized show.

'Yes I have actually watched The Crown,' Harry - who has a production deal with Netflix that is reported to be worth $100 million - told Colbert after the late night host asked if he had seen the series.

The older stuff and the more recent stuff.'

Harry then burst into fits of laughter and mimed taking notes as Colbert questioned whether he 'fact checks' the show - before admitting: 'Yes, I do actually.'
He then suggested that The Crown does not offer an entirely factual version of events - before pointing at his bombshell memoir Spare as an apparent example of accuracy, saying: 'Which is why it's so important that history has it right.'

The entire affair is exceedingly sad, I watched Harry's 60 minute interview and read some comments here but will probably pass on the book and anything else at this point.

At the end of it all Harry being not included in the flight up to Balmoral to see his grandmother before she passed was the lowest of low to me to me. His mother died young in a violent, public way, and his family excluded him at the last minute from saying goodbye to his grandmother, that is below the water line damage to any relationship in my view.

 

[Karin1984]

The entire affair is exceedingly sad, I watched Harry's 60 minute interview and read some comments here but will probably pass on the book and anything else at this point.

At the end of it all Harry being not included in the flight up to Balmoral to see his grandmother before she passed was the lowest of low to me to me. His mother died young in a violent, public way, and his family excluded him at the last minute from saying goodbye to his grandmother, that is below the water line damage to any relationship in my view.

Also there we will never know what exactly happened when in the timeline.

There was a discussion about Meghan's presence at Balmoral, as not all royals were going (Kate wasn't going, but also Eugenie and Beatrice weren't going to say goodbye to their grandmother). We do not know how much time was spent on this discussion, and time was of the essence.

I imagine for Charles and William the message to Harry was: "The plane is leaving at 2:39pm, be on it without your wife, or find your own transportation."

But with the timing of everything, messages getting lost in the chaos of the moment, who knows what went on.