Harry and Meghan Netflix documentary

[Karin1984]

So, it was Givenchy who made the bridesmaids dresses without a fitting, send them to the UK and then nothing fitted and had to be changed by the sewimg team.​

Tailor at centre of Meghan and Kate's bridesmaid dress row speaks out - and reveals he's not surprised it led to tears ​

Luxury suit and dressmaker Ajay Mirpuri has broken four years of silence on the now infamous affair - claimed to have led to tears from the Duchesses of Sussex and Cambridge.
He revealed that he saw nothing of what is said to have gone on but he and three staff had to work round the clock at Kensington Palace and Windsor Castle for four days before the 2018 nuptials after finding that none of the six bridesmaids' dresses made by French fashion house Givenchy fitted.
Mr Mirpuri, 45, who has a showroom in London's West End, said he felt it was a shame that how the young bridesmaids, including Princess Charlotte, looked on the day had been overshadowed by reports of the fall-out between Meghan and Kate.
'If anything happened in the background, it didn't happen in front of me,' the tailor said today.
But yes, weddings are stressful at the best of times – and especially one at this high level; you've got to respect that.
'They were faced with a problem like anyone gets at a wedding, with last minute hitches.
'I can understand why anybody would be upset if the dresses weren't fitting – it's nerve-wracking.
'I feel for them all, because you wouldn't want the children to go out on a big stage in an ill-fitting dress – and that's what they were.
'All six bridesmaids' dresses had to be fixed, and we did it.
'I'm a royalist and I wanted to do whatever I could with my small business to serve the Royal Family.
'We just got our heads down and said "Now we're here, we've got to fix it so that on the day Britain comes off well."
'Had this book not come out, no-one would have known it was us. But if it saved the day, it saved the day, and good luck to them.
'I won't say it upsets me, but in that whole big event, this [the row] is what's spoken about the most – it should be the fact that they [the bridesmaids] looked fabulous.'

 

[cabanafrau]

I wish one of the interviewers had just asked:
"Harry, what do you want? What do you want your family specifically to say or do to make this right?"
Now it was just vague 'They need to take accountability', for what exactly?

And then also the question: "Harry, Meghan, is there something you have to take accountability for? Are you sorry for anything?"

If you want to put it all out there, then also include this.

That would put an end to the business opportunities available in being disgruntled. If they don't have those changes will have to be made.

I have a feeling questions like that would have been met with a sudden need for privacy and keeping that level of discussion in the family and behind closed doors.

 

[Lilsia]

And the other way around. What Harry and Meghan are doing to their respective families can be considered bullying too and being pushed into silence.

Harry can say whatever he wants, pushing and pushing, hoping that he will get a response from his family which he knows he will never get.

But maybe we should lay this discussion to rest. You are never going to convince the people in this thread, let alone that we can convince you of our views. Shall we agree to disagree and call it a night? (it's 10 pm here)

Have a good night.

 

[lisaviolet]

I DON'T "love them so much". I am not let my emotions rule over rational thought like most of you are doing. Why do you hate them so much? I think that there is much more behind the scenes that any of us would ever know and that many of you are not considering that. I also am realistic in knowing that one of the most powerful and rich families in the world absolutely put out exactly what they want put out to the press. That they very much are the "palace informants". The things that come out are just too specific to not come from that high up.
I think that many of you have this reverent attitude toward the Royal family that they don't deserve and you are being fooled into thinking that they are not behind the majority of what is "leaked". And that is exactly the type of people that they want, ones that will believe what they hear through unknown "sources" as fact even when what is said makes no rational sense. Like judge Judy says, it if doesn't make sense, it's not true.

Llisia,

I appreciate hearing the other side, always.

I personally am not letting any emotions cloud judgement. I believe that individuals - and staff for them - in the Royal Family, including Harry by the way, have leaked information to the press at points in time And I don't think those offices for each of them are filled with virtuous
daily deeds. I am sure everyone knows that. I actually agree with you a la if you do not you are naive.

I also agree that it doesn't matter that Kate and Camilla suffered the same plight by the media, as a so what it happens to everyone excuse. I have stated on here that Meghan absolutely had racist ugliness to deal with on top of the regular nonsense that the media brings. And the truth is Kate should have been protected more at her time, as well. That might have made if a bit different of a go for Meghan in tandem. No one should have to endure that daily. But I can say Meghan suffered through some gross media & say I find her disingenuous at the same time. One can think two things at once, and be not overwhelmed by emotion or be blinded in awe of the Royal Family.

But what does any of that crappy behaviour by everyone involved have to do with making immature pot shots against your own loved ones out in the open a la balding heads, aging looks, and revealing ery personal moments for all us to know. Forever in print.

And remember that Harry has had alcohol issues (his own words) & took drugs for many, many years. Yet we had no huge story in that vein. Yes partying of course but no massive piece written. So that there denotes there was also protection given to him as well. For quite a time period it seems. You don't think the media had those stories, to a greater extent than ever revealed. Of course they did.

Anyway, I personally do not think this has to do with the Royal Family as much as family dynamics. And I am against telling *truths* when they can destroy relationships, loved ones and at times innocent people in our own lives.

And as a side note -

I smell some ****ed-up therapists causing some of these issues to be out of control, on Harry's end. I can smell it from a mile away. Although therapy is wonderful, there is always the threat of an ineffective therapist leading to unfortunate circumstances, especially when someone is vulnerable Harry is still responsible for his choices, but I do believe it is a bigger slice of the pie then has been talked about.

 

[Adelle Dazeem]

Like judge Judy says, it if doesn't make sense, it's not true.

I agree with htis. Prime example - Meghan was suidical according to her and Harry. Harry has a therapist on speed dial available to him 24/7. Yet Meghan was left to suffer and no one would let her get help. That doesn't make any sense to me; therefore, it's not true.

 

[Lilsia]

Llisia,

I appreciate hearing the other side, always.

I personally am not letting any emotions cloud judgement. I believe that individuals - and staff for them - in the Royal Family, including Harry by the way, have leaked information to the press at points in time And I don't think those offices for each of them are filled with virtuous
daily deeds. I am sure everyone knows that. I actually agree with you a la if you do not you are naive.

I also agree that it doesn't matter that Kate and Camilla suffered the same plight by the media, as a so what it happens to everyone excuse. I have stated on here that Meghan absolutely had racist ugliness to deal with on top of the regular nonsense that the media brings. And the truth is Kate should have been protected more at her time, as well. That might have made if a bit different of a go for Meghan in tandem. No one should have to endure that daily. But I can say Meghan suffered through some gross media & say I find her disingenuous at the same time. One can think two things at once, and be not overwhelmed by emotion or be blinded in awe of the Royal Family.

But what does any of that crappy behaviour by everyone involved have to do with making immature pot shots against your own loved ones out in the open a la balding heads, aging looks, and revealing ery personal moments for all us to know. Forever in print.

And remember that Harry has had alcohol issues (his own words) & took drugs for many, many years. Yet we had no huge story in that vein. Yes partying of course but no massive piece written. So that there denotes there was also protection given to him as well. For quite a time period it seems. You don't think the media had those stories, to a greater extent than ever revealed. Of course they did.

Anyway, I personally do not think this has to do with the Royal Family as much as family dynamics. And I am against telling *truths* when they can destroy relationships, loved ones and at times innocent people in our own lives.

And as a side note -

I smell some ****ed-up therapists causing some of these issues to be out of control, on Harry's end. I can smell it from a mile away. Although therapy is wonderful, there is always the threat of an ineffective therapist leading to unfortunate circumstances, especially when someone is vulnerable Harry is still responsible for his choices, but I do believe it is a bigger slice of the pie then has been talked about.

I am not absolving Harry for his mistakes. But I understand where he is coming from. What I do not do is believe that the RF is some amazing institution like many on here seem to think. Some have gone into cult like defense of the RF and frankly, it is kind of disturbing. Not to mention the things some are saying about H&M. Is it really a surprise the nastiness that they went through even from what he have seen just in this forum? I merely wanted to point out that things are not always as they seem and that there are 2 sides to every story. I don't agree with some of the things that H&M have said or done. Nor do I agree with how things are handled and done inside of the palace.
I think that some need to step back and evaluate what they are saying because it is coming off as really vile and nasty.

 

[Lilsia]

I agree with htis. Prime example - Meghan was suidical according to her and Harry. Harry has a therapist on speed dial available to him 24/7. Yet Meghan was left to suffer and no one would let her get help. That doesn't make any sense to me; therefore, it's not true.

Probably not. There is a lot that does not make sense on both sides. That is why it is funny how so many of you can take such obvious sides. The reality is, you DON'T KNOW what really is happening and what is being said. Harry has said some really damning things and even if only 10% of it was accurate, it is still a problem.

 

[Adelle Dazeem]

I am not absolving Harry for his mistakes. But I understand where he is coming from. What I do not do is believe that the RF is some amazing institution like many on here seem to think. Some have gone into cult like defense of the RF and frankly, it is kind of disturbing. Not to mention the things some are saying about H&M. Is it really a surprise the nastiness that they went through even from what he have seen just in this forum? I merely wanted to point out that things are not always as they seem and that there are 2 sides to every story. I don't agree with some of the things that H&M have said or done. Nor do I agree with how things are handled and done inside of the palace.
I think that some need to step back and evaluate what they are saying because it is coming off as really vile and nasty.

What's disturbing to me are the people who continually defend proven liars and manipulators. There are 3 sides to every story and I certainly do not think the RF is perfect. I don't agree with a lot of things I have seen/heard about them. However, the behavior of Meghan and Harry is so beyond disgusting and flat out stupid that I just can't be on their side about anything anymore. I don't believe a word that comes from them. I think they are pathological and even believe the BS they spew.

 

[Tink-osophy]

...Doesn't appear that Harry or Meghan have any insight into how their behaviors and their words have an effect on others...

They don't seem to, do they?! And it isn't just alienating them - Harry in particular, I imagine - it's overwhelming anything truthful and constructive they are/could be sharing.

 

[Living42Day]

Every day brings new stories that make my jaw drop. Just when you think things are weird, you hear something else.

Thanks for having this thread, OP! It's a nice way to relax and read some fluff after work haha

 

[Lilsia]

You've repeatedly replied to multiple people that we don't understand, misunderstand, are playing games, are naive and/or are assuming we know what's going on when we couldn't possibly -- yet you KNOW for the record what "palace sources" are. How is it that you have such factual, personal knowledge of the people and the events? You do seem to be taking any hint of disagreement with your statements personally, so I suppose it's technically possible. I'll refrain from sharing my opinion of the likelihood.

Who do YOU think these "palace informants" are then? You truly believe that all of these personal conversations that the RF has are just accidently overheard and told to the rags? Who has access to the RF and their private conversations? Not a single thing would come out of the palace without the RF knowing about it. And if it did, the palace would most certainly find the culprit. Give me some other logical explanation as to how private conversations get to the press if it is not authorized by the RF. I know what many of you WANT to believe because to you it might make sense. But logic shows otherwise.

 

[BayouQueen]

Who do YOU think these "palace informants" are then? You truly believe that all of these personal conversations that the RF has are just accidently overheard and told to the rags? Who has access to the RF and their private conversations? Not a single thing would come out of the palace without the RF knowing about it. And if it did, the palace would most certainly find the culprit. Give me some other logical explanation as to how private conversations get to the press if it is not authorized by the RF. I know what many of you WANT to believe because to you it might make sense. But logic shows otherwise.

You really believe that “Not a single thing would come out of the palace without the RF knowing about it. And if it did, the palace would most certainly find the culprit “?

That would really take some kind of organization, which, sorry to say, doesn’t exist.
Good help is hard to find.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Why do you hate them so much?

I don’t hate Harry. Like Paul Burrell - without the initimacy of knowing him - I’ve also been following Harry’s life since before he was born. As a contemporary of Diana’s, I followed her story from the time she started dating Charles, and that was in the days when you had to wait for stories to come out weekly in People Magazine. It was fun watching William and Harry grow up. Diana loved those boys so much, and they, her. The divorce and Diana’s death were devastating, and the whole world was horribly sad for those boys when she died so tragically.

I was genuinely happy for Harry when he finally met his future wife. But I began to sense something was rotten in Denmark (sorry, Karin) when the problems started between Meghan and her father. Say what you will about him, he was a good father to her and she’d loved him very much. (Not to mention they are doing now to others the same thing that they became estranged from him about.) So Megxit was not a surprise. To hear what they were doing to line their pockets with gobs of money, and to watch their actions since Megxit, has been really disappointing. And now, the level that Harry has stooped to in trashing his closest family members is just really beyond my comprehension.

You seem to be saying that people are following a narrative, but for many of us, we’ve followed this story for 40+ yrs and this isn’t new business to us. Harry has put this information out there for the world to digest so it’s not hateful to discuss it. What’s hateful is what they are doing to both of their families. In my heart I wish most sincerely that none of this was happening. But it is. And I don’t think it’s a coincidence, unfortunately, that Meghan is estranged from just about everyone in her family (and his) except her Mom. Common denominator and all that. I agree with others who say that Harry probably needed someone who could get him the psychological help he needed without going about it the way he has. Surely there could’ve been a better way.

So yes, I still care about Harry. Meghan, not so much. If all that makes me a hater, then so be it.

So, it was Givenchy who made the bridesmaids dresses without a fitting, send them to the UK and then nothing fitted and had to be changed by the sewimg team.​

Tailor at centre of Meghan and Kate's bridesmaid dress row speaks out - and reveals he's not surprised it led to tears ​

Luxury suit and dressmaker Ajay Mirpuri has broken four years of silence on the now infamous affair - claimed to have led to tears from the Duchesses of Sussex and Cambridge.
He revealed that he saw nothing of what is said to have gone on but he and three staff had to work round the clock at Kensington Palace and Windsor Castle for four days before the 2018 nuptials after finding that none of the six bridesmaids' dresses made by French fashion house Givenchy fitted.
Mr Mirpuri, 45, who has a showroom in London's West End, said he felt it was a shame that how the young bridesmaids, including Princess Charlotte, looked on the day had been overshadowed by reports of the fall-out between Meghan and Kate.
'If anything happened in the background, it didn't happen in front of me,' the tailor said today.
But yes, weddings are stressful at the best of times – and especially one at this high level; you've got to respect that.
'They were faced with a problem like anyone gets at a wedding, with last minute hitches.
'I can understand why anybody would be upset if the dresses weren't fitting – it's nerve-wracking.
'I feel for them all, because you wouldn't want the children to go out on a big stage in an ill-fitting dress – and that's what they were.
'All six bridesmaids' dresses had to be fixed, and we did it.
'I'm a royalist and I wanted to do whatever I could with my small business to serve the Royal Family.
'We just got our heads down and said "Now we're here, we've got to fix it so that on the day Britain comes off well."
'Had this book not come out, no-one would have known it was us. But if it saved the day, it saved the day, and good luck to them.
'I won't say it upsets me, but in that whole big event, this [the row] is what's spoken about the most – it should be the fact that they [the bridesmaids] looked fabulous.'

Very diplomatically said.

 

[TLSnell1981]

I don’t hate Harry. Like Paul Burrell - without the initimacy of knowing him - I’ve also been following Harry’s life since before he was born. As a contemporary of Diana’s, I followed her story from the time she started dating Charles, and that was in the days when you had to wait for stories to come out weekly in People Magazine. It was fun watching William and Harry grow up. Diana loved those boys so much, and they, her. The divorce and Diana’s death were devastating, and the whole world was horribly sad for those boys when she died so tragically.

I was genuinely happy for Harry when he finally met his future wife. But I began to sense something was rotten in Denmark (sorry, Karin) when the problems started between Meghan and her father. Say what you will about him, he was a good father to her and she’d loved him very much. (Not to mention they are doing now to others the same thing that they became estranged from him about.) So Megxit was not a surprise. To hear what they were doing to line their pockets with gobs of money, and to watch their actions since Megxit, has been really disappointing. And now, the level that Harry has stooped to in trashing his closest family members is just really beyond my comprehension.

You seem to be saying that people are following a narrative, but for many of us, we’ve followed this story for 40+ yrs and this isn’t new business to us. Harry has put this information out there for the world to digest so it’s not hateful to discuss it. What’s hateful is what they are doing to both of their families. In my heart I wish most sincerely that none of this was happening. But it is. And I don’t think it’s a coincidence, unfortunately, that Meghan is estranged from just about everyone in her family (and his) except her Mom. Common denominator and all that. I agree with others who say that Harry probably needed someone who could get him the psychological help he needed without going about it the way he has. Surely there could’ve been a better way.

So yes, I still care about Harry. Meghan, not so much. If all that makes me a hater, then so be it.

Very diplomatically said.

That about sums it up. Well said.

 

[Lilsia]

But I began to sense something was rotten in Denmark (sorry, Karin) when the problems started between Meghan and her father. Say what you will about him, he was a good father to her and she’d loved him very much. (

I am sorry but what? Do you know these people personally? I don't care how loving a father he was to her growing up, once he betrayed her and sold their personal conversations and did interviews about her, he lost any good will that he had. People are not beholden to their parents just because the parents provided for them growing up.

 

[Karin1984]

But I began to sense something was rotten in Denmark (sorry, Karin)

I'm from the Netherlands as long as you don't say anything bad about our cheese, I'm fine.

Maybe you would need to explain this phrase to Harry. He once started reading Hamlet, but gave up on it due to the subject (so he says in the book).

 

[Karin1984]

And now it is 5.30 in my country and apparently the Colbert show still needs to take place. Time zones are funny.

We do have a new clip.

According to Harry, evil media spun his story again! He didn't boast about his killcount. He just mentioned it. Words are not dangerous, people interpreting them are.

Sounds like, guns don't kill, people do.

Oh, people who had tickets to Tuesday's are angry that Harry went to pre-record his segment. Their show recording was only 1 hour instead of the normal 2.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

I am sorry but what? Do you know these people personally? I don't care how loving a father he was to her growing up, once he betrayed her and sold their personal conversations and did interviews about her, he lost any good will that he had. People are not beholden to their parents just because the parents provided for them growing up.

The man was worthy of forgiveness because he’d been such a good father and they’d been so close. She dropped him like a hot potato and never looked back; deprived him of seeing her and meeting his grandchildren, even at times when he was critically ill, etc. It smacks of cruelty. Did you see the part where they are doing the same thing much worse now to a slew of their other nearest and dearest? That’s hypocritical, like it or not.

 

[Marrila]

And now it is 5.30 in my country and apparently the Colbert show still needs to take place. Time zones are funny.

We do have a new clip.

According to Harry, evil media spun his story again! He didn't boast about his killcount. He just mentioned it. Words are not dangerous, people interpreting them are.

Sounds like, guns don't kill, people do.

Oh, people who had tickets to Tuesday's are angry that Harry went to pre-record his segment. Their show recording was only 1 hour instead of the normal 2.

He said what he said. He is probably worried he will lose his affiliation with Invictus over this.
He absolutely should.

 

[Lilsia]

The man was worthy of forgiveness because he’d been such a good father and they’d been so close. She dropped him like a hot potato and never looked back; deprived him of seeing her and meeting his grandchildren, even at times when he was critically ill, etc. It smacks of cruelty. Did you see the part where they are doing the same thing much worse now to a slew of their other nearest and dearest? That’s hypocritical, like it or not.

Again, how are you privy to their relationship their whole lives? This is the problem with this thread. You hear snippet of parts of their lives and a whole healthy dose of a bunch of lies from the scandal sheets, and all of a sudden, everyone is an expert on their lives. It truly is disturbing how so many are this emotionally involved and being toxic about them. It's not healthy. I am sorry, but I don't understand this level of hate that some of you have.