Handicapped lines at Disney

[jemmouse]

entirely. Heck, we have docs who remove organs unecessarily, writing a note is a no thinker for some. And, OP, yes, I was directing my posts to you. You have posted information that is contrary to all the official information. Not only that, yes, we have gotten a GAC for my mom. The CM stated they could not ask or read a doc's note. And the GAC does state that it is not to skip lines. So, disinformation is NOT helpful for those that NEED assistance.

Perhaps there are many doctors who would write such a note, HOWEVER I feel very confident in my own doctor that she would not write a note that would enable people who are not LEGIT! That is only my opinion, but knowing the background of my physician I would strongly agree that she would never help someone CUT lines for no apparent reason! What information have I posted that is contrary to official information? I am speaking from the experience and treatment that I just received first hand over a week ago. I am sitting here looking at the documentation of a GAC card right now in front of me. There are 2 sides to this story, the one you have spoken, but I also have legal documentation that is a form of evidence!!! That is GREAT what your CM told you, but mine LOOKED at mine, and anyway why is your CM superior to the one who issued mine? When I went to the counter I had my note out, perhaps that is why she looked at, she NEVER asked for it, do you hear that????But because it was out, she did read it.
I have read what you said " The GAC does state that it is not to skip lines" Perhaps you need to go and reread your moms GAC, because you are giving OUT FALSE INFORMATION, on the GAC those words are NEVER once spoken! Disinformation is not helpful for those who NEED assistance. If that is aimed at me, then perhaps you can come with me to Phyiscal Therapy 3 times a week, be there with me when I take my NSAID's, icing my foot, and when the pain starts up for to long sit with me because I just can't take another step. I have only mentioned here on the posts about my feet, but I have also had other ailments in the past few months. There are varying to degrees to all illnesses, not all cases are the same, therefore you need to treat the individual in front of you not the general protocal. And yes I am directing this all at the poster as she directed hers toward me. Bottom line is I can only speak of my experience, I can't speak for the masses.

 

[livndisney]

Perhaps there are many doctors who would write such a note, HOWEVER I feel very confident in my own doctor that she would not write a note that would enable people who are not LEGIT! That is only my opinion, but knowing the background of my physician I would strongly agree that she would never help someone CUT lines for no apparent reason! What information have I posted that is contrary to official information? I am speaking from the experience and treatment that I just received first hand over a week ago. I am sitting here looking at the documentation of a GAC card right now in front of me. There are 2 sides to this story, the one you have spoken, but I also have legal documentation that is a form of evidence!!! That is GREAT what your CM told you, but mine LOOKED at mine, and anyway why is your CM superior to the one who issued mine? When I went to the counter I had my note out, perhaps that is why she looked at, she NEVER asked for it, do you hear that????But because it was out, she did read it.
I have read what you said " The GAC does state that it is not to skip lines" Perhaps you need to go and reread your moms GAC, because you are giving OUT FALSE INFORMATION, on the GAC those words are NEVER once spoken! Disinformation is not helpful for those who NEED assistance. If that is aimed at me, then perhaps you can come with me to Phyiscal Therapy 3 times a week, be there with me when I take my NSAID's, icing my foot, and when the pain starts up for to long sit with me because I just can't take another step. I have only mentioned here on the posts about my feet, but I have also had other ailments in the past few months. There are varying to degrees to all illnesses, not all cases are the same, therefore you need to treat the individual in front of you not the general protocal. And yes I am directing this all at the poster as she directed hers toward me. Bottom line is I can only speak of my experience, I can't speak for the masses.

This is simply not true. I am looking at the card right now-The front of the card states "NOT intended to provide immediate access". The back of the card states "Additional waits may be incurred at certain attractions due to the need for a special vehicle or other operational concerns"

 

[bookgirl]

I have a question regarding the handicap lines. I am not in a wheelchair,scooter, or even in a cast. However I have been struggling with Plantar Fascitis and Heel Spurs for the past month and a half. I am currently in therapy, awaiting my orthotics, and on heavy medication. I am curious do you have to be in a wheelchair or other capacity to use handicap lines. It's definately not that I want preferred treatment but my feet can't handle standing still in one place and that defiantely would not be good for the duration of my trip. Could I have my son and husband stand in line and then when they get to the front can I enter through the handicap line and meet them on the line. I just can't stand still so I would sit and wait for them and then proceed to meet them when they are up. Has anyone ever used that circumstance....?????

First park you go to go to customer service and talk to the people about a GAC. My stepdad has a torn ACL and we needed to minimize walking/standing but he didn't need an accessible line as he was in a walking brace. The basically gave us a GAC that was a fastpass and we were sent through the fast pass line at all the rides (at least those with fast pass lines). If you talk to the castmembers they will get you the most appropriate service for your need. They told us if we did decide to get him a wheel chair to come back and they would give him a GAC for the chair accessible entrances.

 

[jemmouse]

Sounds like someone on here isn't on the money themselves. Have you ever read a GAC? It will state right on it a GAC does not shorten waits or lines. And yeah; I've had them before. A GAC isn't meant for it, period. Don't believe me, I don't care. But IMHO it is a bit foolish to think WDW themselves have it wrong on their own forms and procedures.

And as long as I'm on the subject, I'll throw in a stick. Call me shortsighted, but I do not see any need for assistance with regards to stamina and mobility that would not require a person to use a mobility aid while touring the parks, yet would require they have to have shorter waitlines. I can see where standing still in line can be a problem for some, whereas walking isn't so much. No problem, alternate waitingarea where one can sit down and the problem is solved. No need to shorten wait. Coming down to walking, stamina etc? I just have a very hard time seeing where it's the distance and energy spent in any lines are such a problem yet touring a park isn't. Touring a park (heck even getting into the park, depending on the park and mode of transport used) uses up a lot more of distance than any ride line does.


Sue; the 'last and first' of Peter Pan, is that a standard procedure or a bit of a "see how a day presents itself and deal accordingly"? I'm def. interested in doing PP but with the need to transfer combined with a moving walkway it aint going to happen the 'regular' way. I would def. want to check out that 'first and last' option on our next trip if it's an option. Would be top!

Don't believe me, I don't care, DITTO! Do NOT ever question my intelligence, stating I am not on the money. That is crude and just shows your own ignorance and shortcomings. I have never once belittled someone on this forum, nor would I ever sink to that level unless I was provoked into such juvenile behavior. DId I ever mention that Disney had it wrong in their own forms and procedures? But the procedure that was directed at me was different from the one that you posted. I am going by my own experience. Why is that so difficult for you to comprehend? I have co-written several employee handbooks in my lifetime(and not stating this makes me an expert, just fact) and in them I have drafted rules, guidelines, and protocol. BUT even within doing that, one must be flexible because there is never a classic textbook case. They are there to be referenced when in doubt, they state how a company should initiate behavior toward a certain situation. And you are correct that is my opinion and the opinion I have instructed new staff at my company. You stated something about stamina, it really wasen't to clear, in verbal usage, so this is what I got out of it. I didn't NEED to rent a ECV at the parks because I don't go on alot of rides. When my DH and DS go on rides I wait for them, I sit down which at times can be an hour or more. I also even iced my foot my SpaceMountian. The rode broke down while they were in line and they wre gone for 2 hours. So after 2 hours of sitting I was ok to walk then for a while, then they would go onthere next ride and I would sit. For me, it never bothered me to sit at WDW, I am on vacation, and I could just sit there for days, I love it so much. I think I go on a total of 5 rides at MK, the rest of the time is spent waiting for DS and DH. So that is why I don't require a ECV but lines are a different story. I have an easier time walking than standing still, it puts to much pressure on my feet. Don't judge someones illness unless you have gone and received a medical degree. To be quite honest it deeply saddens me to know that there are so many judgemental people out there, I have and always will go out of my way to help someone who needs assistance, that is just my nature. One never knows in their own lifetime what tomorrow will bring so like I tell my son, be patient, be kind, because one day you might need someone to do that to you.

 

[jemmouse]

This is simply not true. I am looking at the card right now-The front of the card states "NOT intended to provide immediate access". The back of the card states "Additional waits may be incurred at certain attractions due to the need for a special vehicle or other operational concerns"

She quoted something different, didn't use the correct context of the card. I agree 100% with what you said, wow theres a switch.

 

[Indiana Rose Lee]

This is simply not true. I am looking at the card right now-The front of the card states "NOT intended to provide immediate access". The back of the card states "Additional waits may be incurred at certain attractions due to the need for a special vehicle or other operational concerns"

She got the special one that says she can skip all theines because her pain is souch greater than a 75 year old cancer survivor with a broken knee cap.

 

[jemmouse]

One thing that needs to be pointed out: What you quoted is not Disney "rules". The site you are quoting is written by freelance writers. They can write anything they want. It doesn't make it true. The info you are quoting is not based on any Disney info.

As far as "doing your research", there are several posters here with vast knowledge of Disney with Disabilities. Their information is based on truth. Information gathered on several trips. Info gathered from talking with actual CM's and management.

And at the end of the day, the fact remains the GAC states right on it "NOT intended to provide immediate access".

Are you insinuating that freelnace writers would jeopardize their professionalism by writing false info? No one would hire a writer if that were the truth. I have written several articles for our local newspaper and have had to have facts to base my story or else it would not be legit. A columnist can write their own opinions, not a journalist writing a fact based story! What makes "several posters here with the vast knowledge of Disney with Disabilities" experts on this? Why are they any different from a freelance writer who you just discredited? Why is their info truth? A freelance writer doesn't also speak with sources or CM's and management? Becareful on this one because now you are questioning peoples intelligence and professionalism. You are right about what the GAC states, and I did not receive immediate access. The info I was quoting was not Disney info, what was it for SeaWorld?

 

[goofieslonglostsis]

Honestly Jemmouse, I'ld advice you to reread this topic and the interactions on it. Might just be that you see where it all "went wrong". While I agree that the 'humor' it's turned into by the last few hours isn't the nicest example nor do I agree with it, I can see where that came from. It takes 2 to tango.

Besides, it is a tad bit noticable that all of the experiences around the board apart from yours, not even one other story, all state the same experience. Experiences that are all in line with WDW policy. Policy that some of us know a huge amount of, like for instance Sue. Those folks are in the loop about all kinds of 'flexibility and extraordinary situations'. Yet all of those info still state the same. Does make a person question some things, or at least it does with this person.

 

[goofieslonglostsis]

Are you insinuating that freelnace writers would jeopardize their professionalism by writing false info? No one would hire a writer if that were the truth. I have written several articles for our local newspaper and have had to have facts to base my story or else it would not be legit. A columnist can write their own opinions, not a journalist writing a fact based story! What makes "several posters here with the vast knowledge of Disney with Disabilities" experts on this? Why are they any different from a freelance writer who you just discredited? Why is their info truth? A freelance writer doesn't also speak with sources or CM's and management? Becareful on this one because now you are questioning peoples intelligence and professionalism. You are right about what the GAC states, and I did not receive immediate access. The info I was quoting was not Disney info, what was it for SeaWorld?

Oh come on. We all know journalists take facts whatever way they look at it and picture them however they want the public to see them. It's part of the job. But then again, I probably don't know what I'm talking about.

You are reading things in a way they are not meant. Livndisney expressed that the info you quoted was not info supplied by WDW themselves. WDW has it's info published on their website openly, yet you quoted info from outside sources. Livndisney points out that such info can be wrong and it would be wiser to side with the info WDW provides to reduce the risk of error. You know, the same thing you're saying about the database built on the DIS made up out of many experiences and CM's judging the info.

 

[livndisney]

Are you insinuating that freelnace writers would jeopardize their professionalism by writing false info? No one would hire a writer if that were the truth. I have written several articles for our local newspaper and have had to have facts to base my story or else it would not be legit. A columnist can write their own opinions, not a journalist writing a fact based story! What makes "several posters here with the vast knowledge of Disney with Disabilities" experts on this? Why are they any different from a freelance writer who you just discredited? Why is their info truth? A freelance writer doesn't also speak with sources or CM's and management? Becareful on this one because now you are questioning peoples intelligence and professionalism. You are right about what the GAC states, and I did not receive immediate access. The info I was quoting was not Disney info, what was it for SeaWorld?

I am not "insinuating" anything. I am stating fact. Suite101.com pays per article and per view. Those articles are not fact checked. You will note the "writer" did not quote a source. Please show me where the info you quoted appears on a Disney owned website.

If you feel that there are posters on here that do not know more than you, than so be it. Their info is "truth" because they live it. It was not info gathered from one trip.

As far as "questioning peoples intelligence", I am not questioning their intelligence.

 

[Indiana Rose Lee]

Lol, I wouldn't call someone who writes for a group like that a professional. I know one site that paid a gal I knew for an article on her breastfeeding experience. Thing is she hadn't and had actually deserted her baby and two year old when the babe was a mere six weeks old.

 

[goofieslonglostsis]

Lol, I wouldn't call someone who writes for a group like that a professional. I know one site that paid a gal I knew for an article on her breastfeeding experience. Thing is she hadn't and had actually deserted her baby and two year old when the babe was a mere six weeks old.

Oops!

 

[focusondisney]

Honestly Jemmouse, I'ld advice you to reread this topic and the interactions on it. Might just be that you see where it all "went wrong". While I agree that the 'humor' it's turned into by the last few hours isn't the nicest example nor do I agree with it, I can see where that came from. It takes 2 to tango.

Besides, it is a tad bit noticable that all of the experiences around the board apart from yours, not even one other story, all state the same experience. Experiences that are all in line with WDW policy. Policy that some of us know a huge amount of, like for instance Sue. Those folks are in the loop about all kinds of 'flexibility and extraordinary situations'. Yet all of those info still state the same. Does make a person question some things, or at least it does with this person.

If you feel that there are posters on here that do not know more than you, than so be it. Their info is "truth" because they live it. It was not info gathered from one trip.

But apparently if posters had given her the answer she wanted, the info would have been OK. Sorry, I think this poster only wanted to hear one answer. Anything else is wrong.

 

[livndisney]

But apparently if posters had given her the answer she wanted, the info would have been OK. Sorry, I think this poster only wanted to hear one answer. Anything else is wrong.

Anyone that liv n disney clearly doesn't know what they are talking about

 

[Brian_WDW74]

I think this thread has outlived its usefulness and I am closing it here. Please visit the disABILITIES! board for information on the GAC and other ways that Disney assists guests with special needs.