Grand Floridian shouldn’t allow non hotel guests

[intamin]

You hear them whispering to each other:

“who would ever pay so much to stay here when you can just stay at All Stars and vist here for free whenever you want to…”

“I mean this place is lovely, but the point chart is way too expensive”

“Welcome to my channel, where we show you things that Orlando locals can do for free!”

“It’s too stuffy in here… I see someone wearing a collared shirt and it makes me feel uncomfortable.”

You forgot "I can't wait for the disboards thread about my horse hooves stepping in here. My free visit will be legendary."

 

[hockeydad21]

No one’s advocating for velvet ropes and a bouncer at the entrance saying, ‘Sorry, you’re not classy enough to admire our gingerbread house.’

Or are we…?

 

[MerlinandtheMouse]

Easy! No Lily Pulitzer colors, no Hokas, or have a skinny crossbody bag instead of thick D&B to carry around that wheelbarrow of moolah.

Shhh you’re giving away the secrets!

 

[AstroBlasters]

Easy! No Lily Pulitzer colors, no Hokas, or have a skinny crossbody bag instead of thick D&B to carry around that wheelbarrow of moolah.

My wife has actually moved to the crossbody D&B bags. She also likes the “camera case” D&B bags for the incidentals. The “metal or precious jewel of choice” credit card fits just fine.

I carry a bag of gold Sacagawea $1 coins with me for tipping.

 

[DVCPAT]

Yes, because they choose to stay at a hotel that is open to the public for shopping and dining…and any other events…which includes those held in the lobby.

That is the meaning of fair…because when they don’t stay there, they get the same benefit.

I simply subscribe to the idea that if you know some of the areas of your hotel are shared space…or amenities as you like to call them…then one should not be upset when people entitled to those spaces use them.

GF guest are simply not entitled to exclusive use of the lobby…because its not part of the amenities they have paid for..

Now, if WDW wants to make GF exclusive, then you can bet the rates would be much higher, and that could include charging DVC owners for that luxury.

I mean, should GF guests be upset that Poly guests have had shared access to their fitness center?

I just pulled into GF parking lot and not 1 parking spot available. I parked in the service vehicle parking spot… we’ll see if I get towed. You should be OK because you don’t drive… correct?

 

[Lewisc]

Decorations, including the Gingerbread house, and restaurants make clear Disney hotels are intended for both resort and non resort guests.

Hotels have the right to limit hotel access to registered guests.

 

[cbailey1616]

Wonder how many DVC owners/ Resort guests would have to complain to get some sort of peak season restrictions put in. Probably wouldn't make a difference but they showed with the Poly that they are open to some restrictions for the benefit of resort guests.

 

[AstroBlasters]

Decorations, including the Gingerbread house, and restaurants make clear Disney hotels are intended for both resort and non resort guests.

Hotels have the right to limit hotel access to registered guests.

Yes, they now attach your credit score to your MB+ and MDE app and non-guests who have below a 750 are not allowed in the GF….

 

[MerlinandtheMouse]

They limit access to the beach because once the space has reached capacity, everyone else is completely excluded. They're protecting that once or twice yearly event for guests of the hotel.

No Grand Floridian guests are being blocked from accessing the lobby or monorail.

Ok but if we were to extrapolate on this, there is a perceived capacity of an outdoor beach area but not a hotel lobby? I know we’re not Disney and don’t really understand these decision but that reads very odd to me…. Actually, is there a capacity limit for the poly beach or is it just restricted to poly guests without a capacity limit for them? We were there this year but we went to Epcot that day so I didn’t see the signs

Well, either way, even if there is a capacity it is still fully restricted to and prioritizing poly guests because that was the fair thing to do in this case. And sure, I agree, it’s a very limited event but because Disney does such a special and unique July 4th event that creates a substantial draw to the Poly, it’s their responsibility to ensure the paid guest receives a fair experience and stay. The events surrounding Christmas at the resorts are, in most ways, the exact same; the length of the event shouldn’t matter.

I agree, no one is technically blocked from the lobby at GF, comfort is subjective, I accept and personally understand that (again, I’m not trying to stop visitors) but I don’t think anyone expects a 50 person, 30+ minute queue multiple times a day of every day of their holiday just to get to a park. That’s a huge reason why people chose to stay at GF or Poly to avoid that. If that’s the case, Disney should let people know this will be their experience staying at the monorail resorts during Christmas season, prior. Imagine, someone who’s never been to WDW before stays at GF the first time and has no idea this is the “accepted” norm.

But, this goes back to Disney protecting the experience of the paid guest by providing adequate (and IMO) priority access to transportation when they introduce these special events that do change the experience of the resort and guests for better, and sometimes for worse.

…alright I’ve harped enough about this, I appreciate the conversation though.

 

[Man-DeLorean]

Or are we…?

I think some on this thread might have a problem with the GF turning into Studio 54.

 

[JackosinDIS]

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Fascinating that this quintessential English sit-com has made it over the pond!

 

[ShaneDJ]

We don't own at GFV. We are 2042'ers down at the old BWV.

Years ago we ventured out of our shelter for a trip to see how the higher-class folks live at the Grand Floridian. We knew that we didn't belong.

We sheepishly entered the GF lobby, and everyone that we passed by offered a smile or a kind comment. We knew that they weren't sincere though...and that all of those GF people could see through us and that we were a fraud!

So we skedaddled out of there faster than a Blue jay swallows a June bug!

We made it back to our Crescent Lake hideaway and swore that we common folk would never go back to the Grand Floridian palace.

But after reading 40 pages of comments in this here thread, we are now going back to the highfalutin Grand Floridian on purpose: to sit in their lobby with their clean chairs and to let them see us country folk. We may even talk to the fancy piano player and ask him to play a lowlander tune for us.

We know that we don't belong with you high-class cultured folk at the GF, but we are coming out of spite!

 

[nuhusky123]

Decorations, including the Gingerbread house, and restaurants make clear Disney hotels are intended for both resort and non resort guests.

Hotels have the right to limit hotel access to registered guests.

I’m confused by your post

Hotel is for anyone but they can limit to guests?

 

[AstroBlasters]

I think some on this thread might have a problem with the GF turning into Studio 54.

Those are “Poly” people…. We are more of a château de Versailles crowd….

 

[AstroBlasters]

We don't own at GFV. We are 2042'ers down at the old BWV.

Years ago we ventured out of our shelter for a trip to see how the higher-class folks live at the Grand Floridian. We knew that we didn't belong.

We sheepishly entered the GF lobby, and everyone that we passed by offered a smile or a kind comment. We knew that they weren't sincere though...and that all of those GF people could see through us and that we were a fraud!

So we skedaddled out of there faster than a Blue jay swallows a June bug!

We made it back to our Crescent Lake hideaway and swore that we common folk would never go back to the Grand Floridian palace.

But after reading 40 pages of comments in this here thread, we are now going back to the highfalutin Grand Floridian on purpose: to sit in their lobby with their clean chairs and to let them see us country folk. We may even talk to the fancy piano player and ask him to play a lowlander tune for us.

We know that we don't belong with you high-class cultured folk at the GF, but we are coming out of spite!

I thought the Cake Bake shop was a pretty blatant signal that we are gentrifying BW for those of us that own both.

If you want a beer hall or a sports bar then you can stay at SSR and walk to Disney Springs….

 

[Man-DeLorean]

We don't own at GFV. We are 2042'ers down at the old BWV.

Years ago we ventured out of our shelter for a trip to see how the higher-class folks live at the Grand Floridian. We knew that we didn't belong.

We sheepishly entered the GF lobby, and everyone that we passed by offered a smile or a kind comment. We knew that they weren't sincere though...and that all of those GF people could see through us and that we were a fraud!

So we skedaddled out of there faster than a Blue jay swallows a June bug!

We made it back to our Crescent Lake hideaway and swore that we common folk would never go back to the Grand Floridian palace.

But after reading 40 pages of comments in this here thread, we are now going back to the highfalutin Grand Floridian on purpose: to sit in their lobby with their clean chairs and to let them see us country folk. We may even talk to the fancy piano player and ask him to play a lowlander tune for us.

We know that we don't belong with you high-class cultured folk at the GF, but we are coming out of spite!

Ah, you’re heading back to the Grand Floridian? Good luck finding a chair! The lobby’s full of non-resort guests who’ve claimed every inch of space like it’s a game of Monopoly and they’re out to win. They’ll be sprawled across chairs and couches, while you’re over there trying to figure out if it’s even legal to sit on the floor.

And about that piano player—you’re going to ask him to play a lowland tune, and he’ll probably look at you like you just asked him to play "The Devil Went Down to Georgia" on a harp.

But hey, when you finally snag a chair, just remember: you’re not a guest, you’re a spectator in a live-action Disney movie where everyone’s pretending to belong. Enjoy the show, and make sure you sit up straight—those chairs are so fancy, they might just report you to management if you slouch.

 

[Chuck S]

And the idea that Thanksgiving is so much more popular now as if we’ve all been ignoring turkey and pie for decades? Thanksgiving has always been popular—it’s literally a holiday built around food, football, and avoiding your family’s opinions about politics.

Back in the Dark Ages, Disney was not as popular a Thanksgiving destination as it is today.

I remember going to Disneyland in the early-1970s on Thanksgiving Day. Park was almost empty. Blue Bayou had a full Thanksgiving dinner, Salad, Turkey, Mashed Potatoes, green beens, dressing/stuffing, beverage AND pumpkin pie for $4.75. It became our Thanksgiving tradition as long as we lived in California.

 

[AstroBlasters]

Back in the Dark Ages, Disney was not as a popular a Thanksgiving destination as it is today.

I remember going to Disneyland in the early-1970s on Thanksgiving Day. Park was almost empty. Blue Bayou had a full Thanksgiving dinner, Salad, Turkey, Mashed Potatoes, green beens, dressing/stuffing, beverage AND pumpkin pie for $4.75. It became our Thanksgiving tradition as long as we lived in California.

That would have been a fantastic tradition. I’m sure you have some incredible memories.

 

[PinkPixel]

I'm not sure if people are considering just how much manpower, policing and effort it would be to even attempt to implement most of what has been mentioned. Disney these days (specifically mentioning these days as in the amount of visitors WDW gets) doesn't have time to check someone's ticket, someone's hotel reservation, etc as a pedestrian for entry into a specific line and certainly doesn't want to reduce overall capacity of their already limping along main transportation of the monorail just to have parts of it reserved for hotel guests. It doesn't take away the annoyance factor but it is what it is because it is what it is.

It's my understanding that boats to Fort Wilderness were restricted to guests only due to people wanting to look at the decorations there. They scanned magic bands at the dock.

 

[AstroBlasters]

It's my understanding that boats to Fort Wilderness were restricted to guests only due to people wanting to look at the decorations there. They scanned magic bands at the dock.

How elitest…..