Grand Floridian shouldn’t allow non hotel guests

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If Disney were to add additional buses to MK from GF, does it make sense to reserve those buses strictly for the unwashed peasants? This would allow the Royals of GF to easily access the monorail while also limiting potential exposure to the impoverished. Thoughts?

I think that it makes more sense to just have more options than worrying about who is riding what.

I prefer, as a frequent guest of GF, not having to scan every time I want to move around the monorail resorts. Obviously is Disney chooses to do that, I’d go with the flow.

But, I do think that larger boats and additional buses to absorb the extra guests, even if a mix of resort vs not resort guests, should be something Disney should ensure are there.
 
I guess I'm confused, if they're not on WDW property how are they are a problem for the Grand Floridian? Isn't the Grand Floridian on WDW property?
These folks walking in or paying to park? Are they just stumbling in for a whiff of gingerbread or a gander at the splendor or are they partaking in a meal, imbibing in a cocktail, or purchasing a gadget? I think the people that might somehow get in without paying for anything would be minuscule and even so the property owner allows that to happen. I keep asking how does anyone know that these folks don’t ‘belong’? Their look, their smell, their demeanor?
 
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These folks walking in or paying to park? Are they just stumbling in for a whiff of gingerbread or a gander at the splendor or are they partaking in a meal, imbibing in a cocktail, or purchasing a gadget? I think the people that might somehow get in without out paying for anything would be minuscule and even so the property owner allows that to happen. I keep asking how does anyone know that these folks don’t ‘belong’? Their look, their smell, their demeanor?
You can usually hear their growls and barks before they get close enough to be smelled, but either way...it's unmistakable.
 

I think that it makes more sense to just have more options than worrying about who is riding what.

I prefer, as a frequent guest of GF, not having to scan every time I want to move around the monorail resorts. Obviously is Disney chooses to do that, I’d go with the flow.

But, I do think that larger boats and additional buses to absorb the extra guests, even if a mix of resort vs not resort guests, should be something Disney should ensure are there.
Only probably I have is the boat, the bus the train are all a decent walk from each other.

If you pick the boat and line looks bad you walk to train. Line looks bad so you walk to bus

You now loose the time it takes to walk in the hopes of better lines when lines might not be better

This is a solid idea but only if Disney does three things

1- starts giving real time location of busses, trains and boats in the app
2- starts telling us current load of the vehicles
3- current number of people waiting per station. Eg boat, bus, train
 
These folks walking in or paying to park? Are they just stumbling in for a whiff of gingerbread or a gander at the splendor or are they partaking in a meal, imbibing in a cocktail, or purchasing a gadget? I think the people that might somehow get in without out paying for anything would be minuscule and even so the property owner allows that to happen. I keep asking how does anyone know that these folks don’t ‘belong’? Their look, their smell, their demeanor?
You hear them whispering to each other:

“who would ever pay so much to stay here when you can just stay at All Stars and vist here for free whenever you want to…”

“I mean this place is lovely, but the point chart is way too expensive”

“Welcome to my channel, where we show you things that Orlando locals can do for free!”

“It’s too stuffy in here… I see someone wearing a collared shirt and it makes me feel uncomfortable.”
 
You hear them whispering to each other:

“who would ever pay so much to stay here when you can just stay at All Stars and vist here for free whenever you want to…”

“I mean this place is lovely, but the point chart is way too expensive”

“Welcome to my channel, where we show you things that Orlando locals can do for free!”

“It’s too stuffy in here… I see someone wearing a collared shirt and it makes me feel uncomfortable.”

Look over here kids they got these fancy inside outhouses
 
Meanwhile Aulani, HHI and Vero Beach owners are footstools for GF guests to use while sitting in the lobby.
As GF owners, we just own at the beach resorts too.

Yea, I would like to drink a coconut mojito with the same hand as my sparkly wrist brand in my private cabana…..
 
As GF owners, we just own at the beach resorts too.

Yea, I would like to drink a coconut mojito with the same hand as my sparkly wrist brand in my private cabana…..
You get a sparkly wristband..........but no free leis? 🤯😲

sorry that thread and the cold pool water one are also really funny.
 
Every poster will invariably apply their own experience and bias when commenting. That isn't meant to "invalidate" someone else's experience. In the case of the post I was responding to, a pretty specific picture was painted. One that I personally don't feel was completely outrageous for a holiday period.

At the same time, few of us are in a space like a resort lobby for more than a few minutes per day. Even as a resort guest or visitor, we don't know what things were like minutes or hours before/after our walk-through. So it's difficult for all of us to judge whether changes are warranted, much less what sort of effect they would have. Nobody is putting a number to it but the implication throughout this thread seems to be that some massive number of non-guests is visiting the Grand Floridian. We don't actually know if it's 80% of all guest traffic or 50% or 10%. And whatever the number is, if you're blocking people both coming and going, I'm skeptical that it would have any positive impact on boarding wait time when demand peaks.

Why is Thanksgiving 2024 different than other years? I've touched on the Poly walking path. There are undoubtedly a lot of guests from both the Poly and GF who would visit the other resort to browse or dine. Right now, all of that guest traffic is using the monorail. Twice. That will change in a few weeks.

The entire Thanksgiving holiday has grown in popularity. 10 years ago, it was an under appreciated time when families could visit without missing much work / school. More recently, Thanksgiving replaced Easter on the blockout list. (BTW, the photos posted on the Grand Floridian thread were from Sunday, December 1. This is the first day that Sorcerer pass holders could visit the parks after being blocked-out for 4 days.)

Over the last 2 years, I believe some portion of Grand Floridian guest rooms has been closed for refurbishment. So the resort was likely operating under maximum occupancy in 2022 and 2023. If this year really was so much different than others, it surely makes sense to wait and see if a pattern is developing.

To be clear, I'm not opposed to transportation tweaks. Disney should absolutely increase boat capacity and maybe even add some sort of bus service if warranted. I don't think we have enough information to judge whether monorail policy changes are practical or needed. One of the biggest challenges is communicating policy changes to guests. It's easier said than done to educate thousands of guests regarding a different queuing process for the monorail.

The idea that certain guests should be blocked from the resort to create more lobby elbow room is bunk.
No one’s advocating for velvet ropes and a bouncer at the entrance saying, ‘Sorry, you’re not classy enough to admire our gingerbread house.’

And the idea that Thanksgiving is so much more popular now as if we’ve all been ignoring turkey and pie for decades? Thanksgiving has always been popular—it’s literally a holiday built around food, football, and avoiding your family’s opinions about politics.

As for communication challenges, Disney can teach a 5-year-old how to build a lightsaber in under 15 minutes. You’re telling me they can’t figure out how to explain a monorail queue change to adults? Please.

At the end of the day, the Grand Floridian is still the Grand Floridian, the monorail will still be crowded, and no one is blocking guests to make the lobby a zen garden. Now if you’ll excuse me, I have some non-guest traffic to contribute by marveling at a $25 cupcake.
 
And the idea that Thanksgiving is so much more popular now as if we’ve all been ignoring turkey and pie for decades? Thanksgiving has always been popular—it’s literally a holiday built around food, football, and avoiding your family’s opinions about politics.

Maybe that's exactly why going to WDW for the holiday was more popular this year. :laughing:
 
Only probably I have is the boat, the bus the train are all a decent walk from each other.

If you pick the boat and line looks bad you walk to train. Line looks bad so you walk to bus

You now loose the time it takes to walk in the hopes of better lines when lines might not be better

This is a solid idea but only if Disney does three things

1- starts giving real time location of busses, trains and boats in the app
2- starts telling us current load of the vehicles
3- current number of people waiting per station. Eg boat, bus, train
I think that is an individual situation and most guests don’t or are not going to walk many places to find the shortest line….

Let’s be honest, every resort can cause you to wait for transportation and it ebbs and flows. The guests of GF aren’t immune to that.

Comes back to expectations and GF at the holidays will be busy and the con is that transportation times will be longer than normal…if it is going to be a huge inconvenience to someone, than that is not the resort for them.

Sorry, but it seems like you (proverbial you here) want a guarantee that you won’t run into crowds at GF and even with what you suggest, it can change. I was at RIV in September and it said the next bus was due for MK in 5 minutes and the time ended up adjusting as we sat there to 15….things happen.
 
These folks walking in or paying to park? Are they just stumbling in for a whiff of gingerbread or a gander at the splendor or are they partaking in a meal, imbibing in a cocktail, or purchasing a gadget? I think the people that might somehow get in without out paying for anything would be minuscule and even so the property owner allows that to happen. I keep asking how does anyone know that these folks don’t ‘belong’?
Their look, their smell, their demeanor?

Easy! No Lily Pulitzer colors, no Hokas, or have a skinny crossbody bag instead of thick D&B to carry around that wheelbarrow of moolah.
 
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