Good and Bad

I'm not entirely sure what the correct etiquette is for this situation. If I'm waiting at rope drop and there are fairly large pockets of empty space up ahead, I'm probably going to move up to fill one.

I won't squeeze myself into a single foot of empty space or shove people out of the way, of course, but I will fill in gaps.
I do think that is what Disney tells you to do as well. :goodvibes They are always telling you to move up and fill in empty gaps.. sometimes I think they tell us to move up when there isn't any room to move up :rotfl:
 
Imagine how many encounters like this happen over the course of a person's employment.:scared1:. Unless, I was a tall, beefy man with a security uniform on and a stick ( does WDW security have anything on them), there would be times I would NOT want to say or do anything so as to not cause a greater problem. SAD that some people feel so entitled :sad2:

all it takes is, "excuse me, but I think this family was in the front, thank you very much for understanding :goodvibes" or "excuse me, but the handsome prince may fall and hurt himself swinging on that bar, maybe he should stop" and if that doesn't work, then maybe turn the blind eye.. but at least try....:confused3 what some don't realize is it makes more hard feelings for those of us who are patiently waiting.. or it the way of the swinging arms..... just look at this thread :goodvibes and yes, it is very very sad that there are those who feel so entitled that they have forgotten what is going on around them. It isn't just they who have paid their money, but all of us, and our money is just as green as their money...
 
When we were in Disney we kept a happy and magical attitude. If the lines were long we would people watch and just enjoyed being there. When someone cut in line I responded with "no problem. I understand that some don't want to wait. I hope you enjoy the ride" The CM would thank my family for being so patient. I refuse to let other bad attitudes to over spill on my family. We are at the happiest place on Earth.

I feel like if we all just take the time to show kindness while in a busy place maybe others will have second thoughts before being rude! :love:
 
I do think that is what Disney tells you to do as well. :goodvibes They are always telling you to move up and fill in empty gaps.. sometimes I think they tell us to move up when there isn't any room to move up :rotfl:

I agree. But there's something wrong if there are already 50+ people waiting and someone walks up and starts pushing through the crowd and ends up at the rope.
 

The family and I went to Disney in 2005 just a couple days before the 31st. It was so crowded that we all had to stick close and I made sure my son was right next to me. Lines were long but we made our way to the Winnie the Pooh ride and saw the line was about 90 minutes but my son wanted to see it so we stood in line. Now he is not the best line waiter and he stood well for a couple minutes and then got fidgety about it. Ten minutes he was playing on rails and chains but I just let him go. Sometimes he would bump people and I would remind him not to do this. He tried a couple times to get ahead of us and I pulled him back just being patent. No swearing, no yelling just "Kevin, could you calm down buddy."

After about 45 minutes the man in front of me turned around and said "If your son can't behave you need to take him out of this line and go somewhere ekse until he can." I was stunned, this guy didn't know me or my son. I looked him in the eye and sai ."I'm sorry, my son is autistic. If you want to your son can have autism and I can stand in whatever line you want me in which I would be glad too. But if you think you can do better..." He got a funny look, glanced at Kevin, mumbled an apology and turned around and said nothing to us until at the end when he told us to have a good trip.


It is easy for some people with children, or without any to say a child should or should not do in the parks but sometimes they might have a special need or some sort so let it go. Not all kids can "got to a play place and run it off." that just doesn't work. you payed your money and they did too, give them a break. Parents with special needs like a moment to relax too. The need can be autism, aspbergers, downs of just adhd. It id neither the parents noor the child's fault. And if you think they should
Or feed them Ritalin.

Then you have no idea what that really means, that is a mind and personality altering drug. It takes them from who they are and makes them someone else. I am schizophrenic and I take things much stronger than that, it alters me, the way I think, the actions I take and how I Live. If you don't take these things they you have on way or reason to judge.

just let the kids have their hand holds and rails if it makes wait easier to them and others. You do not want to be next to children that are real bored for a half and hour wait, it is not worth it. Also telling the parent to leave is also not right. They paid to get in just like you, their kids want to be there just like yours. If they keep banging into you then say something and complain if they are not breathe in, smell the air enjoy the pixie dust and be calm. This is not the end of your vacation nor theirs. If you are upset after you get off a ride walk up to the guy selling Mickey ice cream or get a Dole Whip, it will then go away.
 
I just returned today from 7 days in the parks. I also saw some good and bad. I think the magic has returned at Disney and is coming back to a level it was a few years ago before the recession, I had the most magical CM interactions this trip that I've been missing for a few years.

Some good:

I saw a CM hold a balloon for a family while they rode BTMRR.

A CM came around our table when someone in my party realized they didn't order a drink with their meal on accident ( it was a crazy rainy night) and the CM brought her a coke free of charge.

I once again heard so many people saying congratulations to those with just married buttons and happy birthday to those with birthday buttons.

My dd was tired and wanted to go back to the resort and a CM overheard and stopped and talked to her and talked her into staying. :goodvibes

Many people offered to take pictures for us.

There was a lot of clapping and joyous laughter and comments on rides and at shows-lots of audience participation.

My dd left her fanny on Star Tours and 2 hours later when we went back they made a huge deal about how they knew she was special so they were holding it in a special place just for her.

The Transportation drivers cracking jokes, singing, getting everyone in the mood for fun!

Many tired and cranky kids but I didn't witness any irate parents (thankfully).


The bad:

during the MSEP stampede in Frontierland I saw 2 men step all over a poor young boy and his father became irate and began swearing and threatening the men. I was worried it was going to escalate. Then, some other people tried to barrel their way through over the kid again with no mind to the child obviously hurt in front of them.

I saw an irate guy with expired FPs rip them up and throw them at the CM at BTMRR when they wouldn't admit him.


But all in all I think the magic that has been missing the past few years is coming back. :goodvibes

I know this was a simple typo, but it really make me chuckle!:lmao:
 
The family and I went to Disney in 2005 just a couple days before the 31st. It was so crowded that we all had to stick close and I made sure my son was right next to me. Lines were long but we made our way to the Winnie the Pooh ride and saw the line was about 90 minutes but my son wanted to see it so we stood in line. Now he is not the best line waiter and he stood well for a couple minutes and then got fidgety about it. Ten minutes he was playing on rails and chains but I just let him go. Sometimes he would bump people and I would remind him not to do this. He tried a couple times to get ahead of us and I pulled him back just being patent. No swearing, no yelling just "Kevin, could you calm down buddy."

After about 45 minutes the man in front of me turned around and said "If your son can't behave you need to take him out of this line and go somewhere ekse until he can." I was stunned, this guy didn't know me or my son. I looked him in the eye and sai ."I'm sorry, my son is autistic. If you want to your son can have autism and I can stand in whatever line you want me in which I would be glad too. But if you think you can do better..." He got a funny look, glanced at Kevin, mumbled an apology and turned around and said nothing to us until at the end when he told us to have a good trip.


It is easy for some people with children, or without any to say a child should or should not do in the parks but sometimes they might have a special need or some sort so let it go. Not all kids can "got to a play place and run it off." that just doesn't work. you payed your money and they did too, give them a break. Parents with special needs like a moment to relax too. The need can be autism, aspbergers, downs of just adhd. It id neither the parents noor the child's fault. And if you think they should


Then you have no idea what that really means, that is a mind and personality altering drug. It takes them from who they are and makes them someone else. I am schizophrenic and I take things much stronger than that, it alters me, the way I think, the actions I take and how I Live. If you don't take these things they you have on way or reason to judge.

just let the kids have their hand holds and rails if it makes wait easier to them and others. You do not want to be next to children that are real bored for a half and hour wait, it is not worth it. Also telling the parent to leave is also not right. They paid to get in just like you, their kids want to be there just like yours. If they keep banging into you then say something and complain if they are not breathe in, smell the air enjoy the pixie dust and be calm. This is not the end of your vacation nor theirs. If you are upset after you get off a ride walk up to the guy selling Mickey ice cream or get a Dole Whip, it will then go away.


Sorry but if your child was bumping into me for 45 minutes I would have said something, and I would have said something a lot sooner than that man did!!!!! Your right to raise your child as you want ends when they invade my personal space. Once or twice OK ,45 minutes no way!!
 
The family and I went to Disney in 2005 just a couple days before the 31st. It was so crowded that we all had to stick close and I made sure my son was right next to me. Lines were long but we made our way to the Winnie the Pooh ride and saw the line was about 90 minutes but my son wanted to see it so we stood in line. Now he is not the best line waiter and he stood well for a couple minutes and then got fidgety about it. Ten minutes he was playing on rails and chains but I just let him go. Sometimes he would bump people and I would remind him not to do this. He tried a couple times to get ahead of us and I pulled him back just being patent. No swearing, no yelling just "Kevin, could you calm down buddy."

After about 45 minutes the man in front of me turned around and said "If your son can't behave you need to take him out of this line and go somewhere ekse until he can." I was stunned, this guy didn't know me or my son. I looked him in the eye and sai ."I'm sorry, my son is autistic. If you want to your son can have autism and I can stand in whatever line you want me in which I would be glad too. But if you think you can do better..." He got a funny look, glanced at Kevin, mumbled an apology and turned around and said nothing to us until at the end when he told us to have a good trip.


It is easy for some people with children, or without any to say a child should or should not do in the parks but sometimes they might have a special need or some sort so let it go. Not all kids can "got to a play place and run it off." that just doesn't work. you payed your money and they did too, give them a break. Parents with special needs like a moment to relax too. The need can be autism, aspbergers, downs of just adhd. It id neither the parents noor the child's fault. And if you think they should


Then you have no idea what that really means, that is a mind and personality altering drug. It takes them from who they are and makes them someone else. I am schizophrenic and I take things much stronger than that, it alters me, the way I think, the actions I take and how I Live. If you don't take these things they you have on way or reason to judge.

just let the kids have their hand holds and rails if it makes wait easier to them and others. You do not want to be next to children that are real bored for a half and hour wait, it is not worth it. Also telling the parent to leave is also not right. They paid to get in just like you, their kids want to be there just like yours. If they keep banging into you then say something and complain if they are not breathe in, smell the air enjoy the pixie dust and be calm. This is not the end of your vacation nor theirs. If you are upset after you get off a ride walk up to the guy selling Mickey ice cream or get a Dole Whip, it will then go away.

It would be interesting to see if they held to the same position if another kid was playing on the rails in by their son and accidentally kicked him in his face and injured him. How "understanding" would they be then?
 
Sorry but if your child was bumping into me for 45 minutes I would have said something, and I would have said something a lot sooner than that man did!!!!! Your right to raise your child as you want ends when they invade my personal space. Once or twice OK ,45 minutes no way!!


I am sorry but what part of autistic do you not understand? I didn't go to the baby store and say "can I have an autistic one? Toddlers are hard so give me the extra challenge." He is not "raised" that way that is how he is. I can tell you have not been exposed to an autistic child because they are not just raised that way. everything can be a challenge, one moment you see someone "normal" and other times you can tell. It is theutmost arrogance to tell someone who has a special needs child when you don't have one yourself on how they raise them. You might tell me I know so and so or my cousin, sister, brother etc has a special needs child so I have experience the answer is no, you do not know or understand. That is like some one who has some kind of stress or OCd related disorder to tell me they understand being Schizophrenic. If you are not there in that position you do not and CANNOT understand.
It would be interesting to see if they held to the same position if another kid was playing on the rails in by their son and accidentally kicked him in his face and injured him. How "understanding" would they be then?


If someone's child kicked another person in the face they have all reason to be upset but I have not seen anyone here say they have been kicked or are have been kicked. If my son kicked someone I would be horribly embarrassed for me, my son and the person. I would apologize best i can and explain the situation but that did not happen. Saying that is like saying "you are walking in the park and a man comes over and pukes on toy. What do you do?" Has this happened to you or me? What if's are just that what ifs. If you worry about that kind of thing stay home away from people there are way to many random events out there.
 
Autistic or not it still does not give you the right to allow your son to keep bumping into a stranger. Like I said a couple times no big deal, that happens but 45 minutes no way. Put yourself between him and others, don't wait in 45 min lines, whatever you have to do but a disability doesn't give you a free card to invade on others space.
 
It would be interesting to see if they held to the same position if another kid was playing on the rails in by their son and accidentally kicked him in his face and injured him. How "understanding" would they be then?

You have to wonder, right?

And if this makes me a big meanie, then I am a big meanie, but if I had a child in line with me, and your child kept bumping into and hitting them, I would not be understanding. But wouldn't getting a GAC help with this issue? :confused3
 
I am sorry but what part of autistic do you not understand? I didn't go to the baby store and say "can I have an autistic one? Toddlers are hard so give me the extra challenge." He is not "raised" that way that is how he is. I can tell you have not been exposed to an autistic child because they are not just raised that way. everything can be a challenge, one moment you see someone "normal" and other times you can tell. It is theutmost arrogance to tell someone who has a special needs child when you don't have one yourself on how they raise them. You might tell me I know so and so or my cousin, sister, brother etc has a special needs child so I have experience the answer is no, you do not know or understand. That is like some one who has some kind of stress or OCd related disorder to tell me they understand being Schizophrenic. If you are not there in that position you do not and CANNOT understand.

If someone's child kicked another person in the face they have all reason to be upset but I have not seen anyone here say they have been kicked or are have been kicked. If my son kicked someone I would be horribly embarrassed for me, my son and the person. I would apologize best i can and explain the situation but that did not happen. Saying that is like saying "you are walking in the park and a man comes over and pukes on toy. What do you do?" Has this happened to you or me? What if's are just that what ifs. If you worry about that kind of thing stay home away from people there are way to many random events out there.

My brothers autistic. If he'd have spent an hour knocking into people in line, he'd never have got to go to Disney. Being autistic doesn't give kids a free pass to do what they want with autism as a get out clause. Discipline is still required to keep kids in line, but many parents don't seem to understand that.

Id have given a kid 5 minutes of knocking into me before saying something. Whatever the reason behind it, it's not acceptable behaviour under any circumstances, particularly if a parent makes no attempt whatsoever to control their kid!! I guess it's different in the US, as parents there seem to politely request that their children behave and there are no consequences if they don't. If they're misbehaving, unless they're ordered to stop and know there will be consequences theyll continue to do what they want.

Having grown up with it, I know how autism works and behaviour can still be controlled. If there was a risk my kids would irritate people to that extent, I wouldn't inflict them on the general public.
 
I agree. But there's something wrong if there are already 50+ people waiting and someone walks up and starts pushing through the crowd and ends up at the rope.

Oh, I agree too.. I am not saying that you should push your way through by any means.. no way at all.. :goodvibes what I am saying is that CM's are always telling you to fill in gaps, which was in response to what another poster said they do...they fill in gaps.... :goodvibes
 
The family and I went to Disney in 2005 just a couple days before the 31st. It was so crowded that we all had to stick close and I made sure my son was right next to me. Lines were long but we made our way to the Winnie the Pooh ride and saw the line was about 90 minutes but my son wanted to see it so we stood in line. Now he is not the best line waiter and he stood well for a couple minutes and then got fidgety about it. Ten minutes he was playing on rails and chains but I just let him go. Sometimes he would bump people and I would remind him not to do this. He tried a couple times to get ahead of us and I pulled him back just being patent. No swearing, no yelling just "Kevin, could you calm down buddy."

After about 45 minutes the man in front of me turned around and said "If your son can't behave you need to take him out of this line and go somewhere ekse until he can." I was stunned, this guy didn't know me or my son. I looked him in the eye and sai ."I'm sorry, my son is autistic. If you want to your son can have autism and I can stand in whatever line you want me in which I would be glad too. But if you think you can do better..." He got a funny look, glanced at Kevin, mumbled an apology and turned around and said nothing to us until at the end when he told us to have a good trip.

This grinds my gears. I have Autism too but you know what? My parents parented and didn't let me kick and climb on the rails! It is NOT a excuse to misbehave! If long lines are a problem get a GAC, get a touring plan or don't go on the ride!
 
The family and I went to Disney in 2005 just a couple days before the 31st. It was so crowded that we all had to stick close and I made sure my son was right next to me. Lines were long but we made our way to the Winnie the Pooh ride and saw the line was about 90 minutes but my son wanted to see it so we stood in line. Now he is not the best line waiter and he stood well for a couple minutes and then got fidgety about it. Ten minutes he was playing on rails and chains but I just let him go. Sometimes he would bump people and I would remind him not to do this. He tried a couple times to get ahead of us and I pulled him back just being patent. No swearing, no yelling just "Kevin, could you calm down buddy."

After about 45 minutes the man in front of me turned around and said "If your son can't behave you need to take him out of this line and go somewhere ekse until he can." I was stunned, this guy didn't know me or my son. I looked him in the eye and sai ."I'm sorry, my son is autistic. If you want to your son can have autism and I can stand in whatever line you want me in which I would be glad too. But if you think you can do better..." He got a funny look, glanced at Kevin, mumbled an apology and turned around and said nothing to us until at the end when he told us to have a good trip.


It is easy for some people with children, or without any to say a child should or should not do in the parks but sometimes they might have a special need or some sort so let it go. Not all kids can "got to a play place and run it off." that just doesn't work. you payed your money and they did too, give them a break. Parents with special needs like a moment to relax too. The need can be autism, aspbergers, downs of just adhd. It id neither the parents noor the child's fault. And if you think they should


Then you have no idea what that really means, that is a mind and personality altering drug. It takes them from who they are and makes them someone else. I am schizophrenic and I take things much stronger than that, it alters me, the way I think, the actions I take and how I Live. If you don't take these things they you have on way or reason to judge.

just let the kids have their hand holds and rails if it makes wait easier to them and others. You do not want to be next to children that are real bored for a half and hour wait, it is not worth it. Also telling the parent to leave is also not right. They paid to get in just like you, their kids want to be there just like yours. If they keep banging into you then say something and complain if they are not breathe in, smell the air enjoy the pixie dust and be calm. This is not the end of your vacation nor theirs. If you are upset after you get off a ride walk up to the guy selling Mickey ice cream or get a Dole Whip, it will then go away.

Autistic is no excuse for you to allow this behavior to continue. While your child may not be able control himself, you sure are able to control what you do and allow him to and allowing your child to bump into someone for 45 minutes is not acceptable on any terms. You need to think of others around you. The world doesn't evolve around you. Yep, I sound mean, don't I? Would you like it if my child bumped into you guys for 45 minutes? Didn't think so.. go get yourself a dole wipe instead of staying on a line that your child cannot handle... Also you need to think of your child. Imagine how he felt so restless for that time frame, so you can wait for an attraction that you really wanted to go on....:confused3 Your post is a prime example of the me, me, me society.. unaware or not caring of what is really going on around them.. sorry to sound so harsh, but true.. and it goes for your child.. you were not even attentive to his needs.. he could not handle it and he was trying to tell you in so many ways.. :sad2:

and before you tell me, I don't know Autistic children, my cousin's DS is Autistic (now 14). I have seen her leave the Magic Kingdom because he could not handle it, not just leave an attraction line.

My sister's son (now 24) is ADHD and my son (now 25) is Bipolar, and we have taken them to Disney as children many many times, and never once did they bang into people or swing arms at people while on a line, and there were no GAC cards for them at a young age either....
 
I totally agree that it's inappropriate and unacceptable to allow a child to physically disturb others like that, no matter what the reason for it may be.

If your child cannot stand in a line without bumping into people, then you need to find a solution. It might mean getting out of bed early for rope drop so that you don't stand in 45 minute lines in the first place. Or leaving the line if your child is unable to behave.
 
Sorry but if your child was bumping into me for 45 minutes I would have said something, and I would have said something a lot sooner than that man did!!!!! Your right to raise your child as you want ends when they invade my personal space. Once or twice OK ,45 minutes no way!!

I didn't read that Kaewin's son was bumping into this man for 45 minutes. Did I miss something? It sounded as if it was an occasional issue and that Kaewin got it back under control by being a patient, loving parent. Maybe it's because I'm an educator or maybe because I have special children of my own, but I would have tried to observe the child and possibly engage the child and parent to assess the situation before saying anything at all. I didn't hear that Kaewin was not handling the situation. I heard that he dealt with it patiently.

Kaewin, we all do the best we can at any given moment and I'm sure you were handling the situation at hand to the best of your abilities. I'm sorry others saw your post as otherwise as I'm sure that it was not your intent to have others judge your parenting skills so negatively. :hug:
 
You have to wonder, right?

And if this makes me a big meanie, then I am a big meanie, but if I had a child in line with me, and your child kept bumping into and hitting them, I would not be understanding. But wouldn't getting a GAC help with this issue? :confused3

Unfortunately I didn't find out about them until the next trip, makes it easier for everyone.

Autistic or not it still does not give you the right to allow your son to keep bumping into a stranger. Like I said a couple times no big deal, that happens but 45 minutes no way. Put yourself between him and others, don't wait in 45 min lines, whatever you have to do but a disability doesn't give you a free card to invade on others space.


I don't believe i said he did it for forty five minutes. He would do it once and a while and I spoke to him. I also told the man "I'm sorry about that." Most was his playing on the posts (which this is about). It was his self talking and fidgeting. People act funny to self talking and making noises. Unnerves them.

My brothers autistic. If he'd have spent an hour knocking into people in line, he'd never have got to go to Disney. Being autistic doesn't give kids a free pass to do what they want with autism as a get out clause. Discipline is still required to keep kids in line, but many parents don't seem to understand that.

Id have given a kid 5 minutes of knocking into me before saying something. Whatever the reason behind it, it's not acceptable behaviour under any circumstances, particularly if a parent makes no attempt whatsoever to control their kid!! I guess it's different in the US, as parents there seem to politely request that their children behave and there are no consequences if they don't. If they're misbehaving, unless they're ordered to stop and know there will be consequences theyll continue to do what they want.

Having grown up with it, I know how autism works and behaviour can still be controlled. If there was a risk my kids would irritate people to that extent, I wouldn't inflict them on the general public.


See above about bumping and if you are going to get in it was 45 minutes not 1 hr. It would also depend at how far your brother is on the spectrum wouldn't it. Of course it does sound since you personally parented this child, or another then you should know all about that. If you are afraid your children would do anything in public then you are the one with the problem. As for "inflict", really? My child is some kind of sickness, if that what you are saying? I have the right like anyone else in the US, UK, France, Italy or wherever else to take my child out in public. I am not ashamed of him as you seem to be implying, I will not lock him away to stay away from others because other people feel that because they live their life on way they are superior than others.

Makes me think of this quote.

One thing that drives me nuts is how people seemingly look for any opportunity to pounce upon situations where they can sit upon their high horses and use their skills of judgementalism to look down upon the masses of unrefined heathens who never were and will never be as perfect as they.

I also see this outside of Disney everywhere.



This grinds my gears. I have Autism too but you know what? My parents parented and didn't let me kick and climb on the rails! It is NOT a excuse to misbehave! If long lines are a problem get a GAC, get a touring plan or don't go on the ride!

Just a question, what level of functionality do you have now? How about when you were say 7? You seem pretty high functioning so I can see that is good for you. What part anywhere did I say kicking? Did I say my son kicked someone? I just said he played on the rails and chains. He swung them back and forth and talked to them. If he had kicked anyone for any reason that would have been a different problem and would and is not tolerated for any reason. He has not and doesn't kick or hit people other than himself. And also I was unaware of a GAC, it really isn't common knowledge. We have the last three times gotten one because I found out about it and we use it.

It's not easy having a child of one age (7) and having them be much young (about 3 1/2) even now in middle school he is still about 9. Here is the thing you seem to know you are autistic, you seem to be aware of what it means and entails he doesn't know or would not understand if he knew. I have met some autistic children that if I was not told they were I would have never know and I have met autistic people who are still young children. How well are you? And at 7, how well were you then?

And like I said I did not excuse it but I didn'v sit there every few seconds trying to correct him for everything he did, he just hung on the bars and played with chains mostly talking to himself and once and a while hitting someone, himself. Like any small kid he would move and bump someone and I would pull him back (I kept about two or three feet between us and the people in front getting looks from that).


Ok let me state this so all of the people who cannot understand it.



AHEM....MY SON DID NOT, THAT IS NOT, STAND AND BUMP SOMEONE FOR 45 MINUTES OR AN HOUR AS SOMEONE STATED. I SAID HE WOULD DO IT FROM TIME TO TIME. EVERYTIME I STOPPED IT, HE HUNG ON THE RAILS AND PLAYED WITH CHAINS NOT HITTING KICKING SWEARING BEATING SPITTING OR ANY OTHER THING YOU ARE IMAGINING. SO BEFORE YOU SAY OTHERWISE AND NOT WHAT SOMEONE ELSE SAID READ THIS.

ok? alos I was not aware of a GAC. No one said "hey is your son disabled? Get a GAC." Never happened.

If you go to Disney World and see a restless child in line (and you will) deal with it. Disney is a family place. They intend children to be there, they plan for it and expect it. If you cannot understand that children get restless and bump into people sorry it happens but to tell me that my son should leave/be locked in a room/get out of line because he bumps people then I have a couple things to add to that list.

1) Women with large bags, I get whack by these in lines all the times
2) People with souvenirs, again same problem.
3) Teens that are not next to parents. They bump, push, cut lines and swear.
4) Teens that are with parents, they do the above except swear, well sometimes.
5) Couple without kids, the do the above and from time to time get a bit to romantic in public (kissing ew)
6) Old people, they move slowly and rides might get paused so they can get on and off (hate waiting for that, they should know better)
7) All parents with little kids, strollers, disgusting habits, slow, bumping and sometimes funky smells
8) parents with kids that wear sports team shirts, I don't like their team and I should not be exposed to them
9) People eating any kind of snack (turkey legs are good but someone might find it gross)
10) gum chewers
11) People drinking
12) people who feel that their vacation is so important that others are not allowed to do anything at all that in some way possible could hurt their vacation with something as little as a sneeze


Have I missed anyone?

Because YOU FEEL YOU ARE ENTITLED TO A VACATION AND PEOPLE ARE NOT LIVING UP TO YOUR STANDARDS THEY SHOULD NOT BE SHUNNED BANISHED OR BE SNOBBED AGAINST. IF YOU CANNOT GOT DISNEY WORLD AND HAVE YOUR VACTION DISRUPTED BY SOMEONELSES ACTION THAT ARE NOT INTENDED TO HARM YOU DO NOT GO BECAUSE I AM GOING IN NOVEMBER WITH MY THREE KIDS (EVEN THE AUTISTIC ONE) AND I LIKE EVERYONE ELSE IN THE PARK ARE NOT GOING TO CARE THAT YOU GET UPSET BECAUSE THAT FIVE YR OLD LICKS A RAIL OR HANGS FROM IT. THEY DON'T CARE IF YOU THINK THEIR EATING HABIT GROSSES YOU OUT THEY ARE THERE TO HAVE FUN


And so should you. This is Disney, people are people they think about themselves, you are thinking about yourselves, not me not OP or the poster who was at TSM and let her kids play on the rails. Just sit back and enjoy.

These threads are not to be helpful they are whine fests. Every time I come to this section of the boards they are there. Just ignore the people, get your fastpass and forget them, they forgot you. All you are doing is keeping a bad memory in what should be a set of good memories.


Think about that. And if you missed my message, and I know a few have feel free to flame me I am sure that woul dbe a great way to sprinkle Pixie Dust.
 
I didn't read that Kaewin's son was bumping into this man for 45 minutes. Did I miss something? It sounded as if it was an occasional issue and that Kaewin got it back under control by being a patient, loving parent. Maybe it's because I'm an educator or maybe because I have special children of my own, but I would have tried to observe the child and possibly engage the child and parent to assess the situation before saying anything at all. I didn't hear that Kaewin was not handling the situation. I heard that he dealt with it patiently.

Kaewin, we all do the best we can at any given moment and I'm sure you were handling the situation at hand to the best of your abilities. I'm sorry others saw your post as otherwise as I'm sure that it was not your intent to have others judge your parenting skills so negatively. :hug:


Reading back through the posts, it seems that Kaewin encouraged the child to stop, but did not do anything to make sure the child stopped. And also said that if anyone was annoyed by being bumped into, it's their problem and to go have a Dole Whip.:confused3
 
I'm not going to reply to the wall of text, but I think you need to calm down.

How I behaved when I was 7 is irrelevant- each person is different. However, if I was misbehaving my parents would have certainly taken me out of the area and apologised. I do think you overreacted a bit.
 


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