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[tmoret]

I would be willing to bet that those same people are that way everywhere they go. Either you have manners/morals/courtesy or you don't.

Very well said and my thoughts also.

 

[princessallegra]

as a mom of an over active five year old that spent 45 minutes in BTM line, I had a hard time keeping my son off the railings...at one point I had to say to myself he is a kid and dear me they have a need to exert their physicality. I told him if he bumped into anyone we would have to leave the line...but I did let him swing on the low rail. Next time I'll bring more diversion toys for the lines....but I kind of empathize with the kids on this one and say let them have the dang rail!!!

My parents taught me how to wait on line patiently and read, or play with my toys. And I was an extremely hyper and physically active kid who would have loved to hang and dangle off the bars if they let me. I disagree with you. There is a time and place for hanging off bars. It's called the playground, the monkey bars.

 

[maryscooking]

as a mom of an over active five year old that spent 45 minutes in BTM line, I had a hard time keeping my son off the railings...at one point I had to say to myself he is a kid and dear me they have a need to exert their physicality. I told him if he bumped into anyone we would have to leave the line...but I did let him swing on the low rail. Next time I'll bring more diversion toys for the lines....but I kind of empathize with the kids on this one and say let them have the dang rail!!!

I kind of disagree with this approach. I see it as, my DD5 has such a hard time sitting/standing still, she is starting kindergarten in the fall, so I sure as heck better teach her how to sit and stand quietly before then.

I let her know the expectation (stand quietly in line next to me), what would happen if she did not meet it (we would get out of line), and sure enough, she was (after testing me one time) able to control herself. When the motivation is strong enough, kids will surprise you.

 

[princessallegra]

I kind of disagree with this approach. I see it as, my DD5 has such a hard time sitting/standing still, she is starting kindergarten in the fall, so I sure as heck better teach her how to sit and stand quietly before then.

I let her know the expectation (stand quietly in line next to me), what would happen if she did not meet it (we would get out of line), and sure enough, she was (after testing me one time) able to control herself. When the motivation is strong enough, kids will surprise you.

You are an awesome parent

 

[mmay60046]

One thing that drives me nuts is how people seemingly look for any opportunity to pounce upon situations where they can sit upon their high horses and use their skills of judgementalism to look down upon the masses of unrefined heathens who never were and will never be as perfect as they.

I also see this outside of Disney everywhere.

 

[BlueBeagle]

We were at the Animal Kingdom and it was pouring down rain. Really didn't bother us though and we decided to walk the trail to see the animals. Of course, my then 3-year-old ds has to pee. There are no restrooms on the trail so we had to backtrack. When we got to the bridge it was packed with people. I very nicely said excuse me and this lady told her young son (maybe 5) not to let us through! I told her my little one had to pee and she had a choice - they could let us through or he could pee there. A CM saw us and told them they could not block the path.

 

[W.E.D.]

We were at the Animal Kingdom and it was pouring down rain. Really didn't bother us though and we decided to walk the trail to see the animals. Of course, my then 3-year-old ds has to pee. There are no restrooms on the trail so we had to backtrack. When we got to the bridge it was packed with people. I very nicely said excuse me and this lady told her young son (maybe 5) not to let us through! I told her my little one had to pee and she had a choice - they could let us through or he could pee there. A CM saw us and told them they could not block the path.

Unbelievable! On an open-ended walking trail no less. Not like you were cutting in line or anything.

 

[hollygolitely93]

You are an awesome parent

I understand your point of view and do see the value in it. I did established the same expectation with my son but with a little more flexibility that he could play while we were standing as long as he stayed in his space, but not while we or others were moving. If he broke that rule we would be out of the line. I am very comfortable with that reasoning and voiced it to share that not every parent sees bar playing as rude. It can be rude but it also can be fun...there is a line in my mind.

I also shared as I am an attentive mom who does follow through on discipline and I did find my son really struggled in line. I mean really struggled. I will have better tools next time to use to help him harness his energy...but i really appreciated the other parents who helped me entertain my boy versus judge him...we all ended up having a lotmofmfun. Sometimes I think kids and their parents are judged too harshly for behavioral outbursts when a lot of times the parents are really trying and the kids are too. We all have our strengths and weaknesses.

I am okay with others disagreeing...I understand if a kids was all in my space on the bars and the parents doing nothing I would roll my eyes too I think.

 

[Mickeygolf]

One thing that drives me nuts is how people seemingly look for any opportunity to pounce upon situations where they can sit upon their high horses and use their skills of judgementalism to look down upon the masses of unrefined heathens who never were and will never be as perfect as they.

I also see this outside of Disney everywhere.

 

[UNCFanatik]

Just wondering if the same parents that let their children play on the bars or queue management equipment, are the same parents that would sue Disney if their little Johnny or Susie were injured.

And I fail to see how it is judgmental to not want children around you playing on the bars flailing arms and legs everywhere and holding up the lines at places. Not to mention if they did get injured, to witness little Johnny or Susie slipping and slamming their head into the concrete or injuring another person in someone else's party.

 

[bedogged]

I was at MK a few weeks ago. I use an ECV and my family and myself were waiting to be let into the Philharmonic show. There is a separate door for disabled people. Apparently there was a sudden problem with the show. They quickly made everyone leave. We, several families, who were waiting at the disabled door were not aware of the problem. Finally an excited CM told us that we had to leave after everyone else had vacated. She was peeved because none of us had heard the announcement. At that time we could smell something that smelled like smoke. My husband asked if there was a fire? The CM replied that she was not allowed to tell us. All the disabled families tried to leave the building but because it was raining, people were blocking the exit so none of us could get out. We told the CM and she yelled at the people to move and left. Unfortunately, they only moved for a second and then moved back as soon as she disappeared. We were all stuck inside the building. Thankfully, nothing bad happened, but it made me think about what could have happened because of the rudeness of a few people!

 

[WillAustin]

I let her know the expectation (stand quietly in line next to me), what would happen if she did not meet it (we would get out of line), and sure enough, she was (after testing me one time) able to control herself. When the motivation is strong enough, kids will surprise you.

That's our approach also. This morning in the line for TSMM we were in front of a kid swinging on the bars and climbing through onto the themed areas (not where they are meant to be). He was going back and forth passing us and bumping repeatedly into our kids.

This was on our 2nd standby ride right after rope drop, and the wait wasn't really more than 5 or 6 minutes total, so it wasn't an issue where he was waiting an unreasonably longer time than a child should be expected to wait.

It's funny to see the comments about this on the thread because I mentioned to my wife that our kids would have been out of the line immediately if they had acted that way. It's just amazing that people can manage to completely ignore or not care at all how they or their kids are affecting the people around them.

 

[joshstamp]

On the topic of cutting in lines, cheerleaders! we found that they leave 2 or 3 girls in the queue then turn up with 10 or more later on and expect to join where the others have got to because they have to "stay as a group"

 

[larryz]

It is unfortunate that the only requirement for entry is a dollar bill.

Well, 95 of them, anyway.

 

[maxiesmom]

Just wondering if the same parents that let their children play on the bars or queue management equipment, are the same parents that would sue Disney if their little Johnny or Susie were injured.

And I fail to see how it is judgmental to not want children around you playing on the bars flailing arms and legs everywhere and holding up the lines at places. Not to mention if they did get injured, to witness little Johnny or Susie slipping and slamming their head into the concrete or injuring another person in someone else's party.

I have to agree with you on both counts. If little Johnny or Susie has so much energy they can't wait in line without flailing around, then take them to a play area for a while and let them work off that energy.

 

[FanOfFigment]

On the topic of cutting in lines, cheerleaders! we found that they leave 2 or 3 girls in the queue then turn up with 10 or more later on and expect to join where the others have got to because they have to "stay as a group"

That makes DH and me crazy. On our last visit, there were very large tour groups that seemed to be in whatever park we were visiting; and there were several times when a large bunch would try to bypass the line to catch up with the rest of their group. My feeling is that if they all want to be together, the ones in the front should wait for the stragglers to catch up... I just try not to let it get to me, but I'm not the most patient person around.

 

[flortlebap]

I have to agree with you on both counts. If little Johnny or Susie has so much energy they can't wait in line without flailing around, then take them to a play area for a while and let them work off that energy.

Or feed them Ritalin.

 

[si-am]

I think if your kid has a hard time managing lines, then don't get in a long one.

 

[Sweettears]

It is unfortunate that the only requirement for entry is a dollar bill.

Last time I was there it was a lot more than one.

 

[SRUAlmn]

I kind of disagree with this approach. I see it as, my DD5 has such a hard time sitting/standing still, she is starting kindergarten in the fall, so I sure as heck better teach her how to sit and stand quietly before then.

I let her know the expectation (stand quietly in line next to me), what would happen if she did not meet it (we would get out of line), and sure enough, she was (after testing me one time) able to control herself. When the motivation is strong enough, kids will surprise you.

As a teacher of the little ones I just wanted to say THANK YOU!!!!