Gator grabs 2 year old at Grand Floridian?

[whiporee]

You obviously don't want to hear about the food Web or the fact about how rare attacks are and how many other things kill humans with much more frequency, so I'm bowing out of this one.

I'm pretty sure I've stipulated to all those things. None of them are the point, but I've been clear in saying attacks are rare, and I question the actual worth of the abundance of alligators in the food web.

 

[romitaz]

To be fair...AOL has another story running about this http://www.aol.com/article/2016/06/...-after-alligator-death-not-criminal/21396802/ which was posted a few hours after the article you pasted in was posted.....while I read AOL everyday they have a habit of posting stories to grab people's attention (and if you really want nasty comments just read the comments on AOL stories..I don't even have words to describe that).

Also The Wrap, who wrote the news story from the one you posted, is an Entertainment website where their front page says "The Wrap-Covering Hollywood". Their front page consists of 3 main stories about this issue another story about a new movie coming out, facts about the Fast and Furious franchise, Walking Dead news, NCIS news, etc..see my trend?

Their 3 stories have the headlines-"Gator Attack: Disney knew of problems" with a pic of the bungalows (this wordage criminalizes Disney), "Disney gator attack: Sheriff on criminal charges against parents" with a pic of the sheriff (this wordage criminalizes the parents) and finally "Is Disney legally liable for gator attack" (this wordage again criminalizes Disney) with a pic of a gator in water.

Unfortunately there are virtually no media outlets nowadays that give us the facts without putting their spin on it and often that spin is designed to gain viewship and shares across social media.

The one thing that we all need to remember. Most of these "stories" are being used as click bait. Also, as I stated earlier, never underestimate a person's hyperbole superpowers when they get their chance at their 15 minutes of fame.

 

[whiporee]

Dude, please do some research.

Do you have actual facts, or are you just saying stuff that sounds ecologically cool? If you know something, say it. If you've got evidence of the vital role alligators play, state it. Tell us what they eat that nothing else would in their absence from suburban areas. Tell us what happened when they were almost extinct. You're clearly smart and knowledgable, so make a case. I've asked you to do that twice, and each time you've responded with yoga platitudes about everything being interconnected and nature finding a way. If I'm wrong, tell me why. Insulting me isn't making an argument.

 

[whiporee]

They were important, go look up and read what happened to the ecosystems when they were hunted to near extinction. At some point you need to do your own research here.

Or, instead of insinuating you know something, actually tell us stuff. Specifics that make your case. I've been making mine; if you disagree, make yours.

 

[poison ivy]

The one thing that we all need to remember. Most of these "stories" are being used as click bait. Also, as I stated earlier, never underestimate a person's hyperbole superpowers when they get their chance at their 15 minutes of fame.

I think it's all relevant. If we're going to claim the gators are everywhere and visitors should have obviously known this about FL than we shouldn't be so quick to dismiss guests now coming forward to share their stories.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

The one thing that we all need to remember. Most of these "stories" are being used as click bait. Also, as I stated earlier, never underestimate a person's hyperbole superpowers when they get their chance at their 15 minutes of fame.

Absolutely agreed and I think you and I get that among some others. I didn't even read the other AOL news story. I just went to AOL (after reading the poster's post) and saw that they had another story on it.

 

[romitaz]

Absolutely agreed and I think you and I get that among some others. I didn't even read the other AOL news story. I just went to AOL (after reading the poster's post) and saw that they had another story on it.

It's the "hot new story" so many online news services are making the most of it. In the world of instant news, clicks are the same as cash.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I think it's all relevant. If we're going to claim the gators are everywhere and visitors should have obviously known this about FL than we shouldn't be so quick to dismiss guests now coming forward to share their stories.

But I think romitaz's point is that many of these stories are exaggerating many things in order to be seen quickly by people, especially on social media.

 

[romitaz]

Or, instead of insinuating you know something, actually tell us stuff. Specifics that make your case. I've been making mine; if you disagree, make yours.

Ok, in all of 5 seconds of research. Here you go. The rest, please go and research the loss of apex predators for yourself.

 

[poison ivy]

But I think romitaz's point is that many of these stories are exaggerating many things in order to be seen quickly by people, especially on social media.

True, they're exaggerating the headlines. No surprise there. Every news outlet is guilty as charged. But the guests being interviewed deserve to be heard.

 

[DISNEY1975]

How could anyone argue that a bathtub is the same thing as changing your signage from "no swimming" to do not enter the water due to dangerous predators? Again, bless your hearts, I feel that you are arguing just to argue at that point.
Again, see the below pictures, and tell me that only an "idiot" would think that you are allowed in the water?

I thought the no swimming was there so you woudtn get hit by a ferry or watercraft. Looks like they encourage kids near the shoreline.

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[midaroco]

Really?? I've stated my opinion before, but I'll state it again...

If you see a no swimming sign at a local lake, would you assume it's fine to bring a two year old into the water up to his waist?? Can't fathom that.

MG

Really??
And what makes you believe the water was up to the child's waist?

People need to stop making judgements without knowing what actually occurred.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

True, they're exaggerating the headlines. No surprise there. Every news outlet is guilty as charged. But the guests quoted deserve to be heard.

True but unfortunately their voices are muddled with exaggerations, spins meant to lead you to a certain opinion, extra news fluff, etc.

 

[DISNEY1975]

Ft Wilderness

Caribbean Beach Resort

 

[romitaz]

True but unfortunately their voices are muddled with exaggerations, spins meant to lead you to a certain opinion, extra news fluff, etc.

Right and most likely being asked very leading questions(the bread and butter of the "journalist") that paints the picture that the author wants to illustrate.

 

[rteetz]

Ft Wilderness

Caribbean Beach Resort

What's your point here?

 

[whiporee]

Ok, in all of 5 seconds of research. Here you go. The rest, please go and research the loss of apex predators for yourself.View attachment 175897

What that have to do with suburban infiltration? I've never said to kill them in the glades -- or when I have, it's been as hyperbole, and I've backed off it often. That's a good example, but I don't see what it's got to do with suburban lakes. Or theme parks.

 

[Aurora0427]

I thought the no swimming was there so you woudtn get hit by a ferry or watercraft. Looks like they encourage kids near the shoreline.

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The photo of the Alice in Wonderland splash zone is misleading. It is not close to the shoreline. At all. There are actually a few buildings missing from that photo.

 

[poison ivy]

Right and most likely being asked very leading questions(the bread and butter of the "journalist") that paint sthe picture that the author wants to illustrate.

Not really in this case at least from what I've read so far anyway. A guest encountered a gator on property. Where and when and what happened is printed in a few quotes. it's pretty straightforward. I am glad they came forward.

 

[midaroco]

True but unfortunately their voices are muddled with exaggerations, spins meant to lead you to a certain opinion, extra news fluff, etc.

To that end the same could be said about your point, here.