Frustrated...Any new teachers out there?

That's amazing money. You work 7 hours a day, 180 days a year... That's almost $39 an hour! To be making that with no experience is phenomenal! Lucky you.

While I agree that it is a great starting wage (teachers here start around $33K), it is obvious that you are not a teacher and have no idea the amount of work put in by teachers.

Instead of 7 hours a day, you should bump that up to at least 9, sometimes more depending on how much "stuff" there is to do once the students have gone home. Oh, and don't forget the hours spent on the weekends grading papers and creating plans, projects, etc. And those summers that you think teachers have off? Not so much, as they have to typically spend at least a chunk of those summers in professional development or classes (typically paid for out of their own pockets) to keep their certificates current. Plus, most of the teachers I know turn around and sink a nice chunk of change back into supplies for their classrooms too.

Teachers work their butts off for every penny that they get paid, and they get little respect for the amazingly difficult job that they do.

OP - Hang in there! The first year is by far the hardest, but it is so worth it if you stick with it!
 
That's amazing money. You work 7 hours a day, 180 days a year... That's almost $39 an hour! To be making that with no experience is phenomenal! Lucky you.

Not much of a difference....but still a difference. Teachers here have a contracted 8 hour workday (and then another 2-3 hours at home on our own time of course! :rolleyes:).

And our work-year is 195 days.

But yes, OP, you have a terrific starting salary! :thumbsup2
 
This is year #16 for me, I can say the first few years are the worst. Not only are you learning what you're doing, you also get stuck with the stuff the ones who have been there a while don't want to do. It is kind of like hazing, or paying your dues.

If you stick with it, it will get easier.
 
While I agree that it is a great starting wage (teachers here start around $33K), it is obvious that you are not a teacher and have no idea the amount of work put in by teachers.

Instead of 7 hours a day, you should bump that up to at least 9, sometimes more depending on how much "stuff" there is to do once the students have gone home. Oh, and don't forget the hours spent on the weekends grading papers and creating plans, projects, etc. And those summers that you think teachers have off? Not so much, as they have to typically spend at least a chunk of those summers in professional development or classes (typically paid for out of their own pockets) to keep their certificates current. Plus, most of the teachers I know turn around and sink a nice chunk of change back into supplies for their classrooms too.

Teachers work their butts off for every penny that they get paid, and they get little respect for the amazingly difficult job that they do.

OP - Hang in there! The first year is by far the hardest, but it is so worth it if you stick with it!


Thank you! Well put! I don't get paid to work in my room at school over the summer, so it will be ready for the first day of school. I am starting my 11th year of teaching and have a master's degree and just now went over the 40,000 mark...and not even to 41,000 yet! Our schedule may say 7:20 - 3:20, but I say MUCH later, and don't get paid for all the planning and grading that has to be done at night and on the weekends!
 

It WILL get easier. Right now youre just finding your way, your creating ALL of your lesson plans....yuck. Eventually it will get easier - you'll develop a routine and you won't have to plan everything - you can use a lot of things year after year. I wish I was making what you are! You know the saying "I do it for the kids not for the money." Yeah thats me!
 
Not much of a difference....but still a difference. Teachers here have a contracted 8 hour workday (and then another 2-3 hours at home on our own time of course! :rolleyes:).

And our work-year is 195 days.

But yes, OP, you have a terrific starting salary! :thumbsup2

I am unclear why teachers think that they are the only profession who arrives early, stays late, takes work home, etc.

They are, however, the only profession I know who get an hour of "planning time" paid for and the only profession who gets off early when it's hot, when it's snowing, or the day before a holiday.

The teachers here work 180 student days, and 3 professional development days. We'll assume they work the PD days for free, since I don't get extra pay for Saturday conferences, workshops, etc., and what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
 
I agree that teaching gets easier the more experience you have. I remember how horrible my first year was, and I don't want to think about how many things I did wrong the first few years. A good mentor can make your lilfe so much easier. You are expected to know how to do everything, how to deal with every possible problem, and to teach. That's a lot to ask of a first-year teacher, but that's the reality of teaching. Learn to ask for help when you aren't sure of what you should do. There will be teachers in your school who are happy to help you. I was a classroom teacher for 37 years, retired, and have been working part time for the past 5 years. Yes, I love teaching! You will learn to deal with the stress, and if teaching is the right career for you, the good days will out number the bad days. Best of luck!
 
I am a first year teacher and I am extremely frustrated and ready to quit. I am making almost $49,000 a year so the money is great , but I can not handle the stress (the students and the workload). I am just looking for some words of encouragement.
As others have said, it absolutely gets easier. Your first year is tough, but if you focus on a couple things, it'll get better.

On the academics:

- Focus on being super-organized. When you take the time to make a great unit on _____ subject, be SURE you can find it next year so you don't have to do it again. It won't help you a bit RIGHT NOW, but it'll make your life easier in the future.

- Even though you're super-busy, take time to evaulate every lesson, every unit as soon as it's done. What worked well? How can you adapt those same ideas for another unit later? What didn't work well? What was the problem? Whether it was that the students were missing some piece of prior knowlege, or that you didn't allow enough time, or that you assigned something that was just beyond the kids' grasp, figure out WHY it didn't go well. Maybe you can't make it better for this unit right now, but it'll help you get better in the future.

- Vary your instruction. You may love reading plays out loud and having the kids do cross-word puzzles, but if you do those specific activities every week they'll become stale. So do those one week, but then the next week have the kids act out scenes from the play or make posters to share with the class, and then have them do a creative writing activity. Mix it up.

- Keep up with the grading. This never gets any easier as the years go by, but don't put it off. Having a huge stack of work to grade is always depressing.

- Every day -- or at least as often as possible -- don't leave 'til everything's planned, xeroxed, and laid out for the next day's lesson. You'll be more relaxed at home knowing that you don't have to make out a math quiz tonight and get to school early enough to xerox it.

- Ask for help. Hopefully you're working with experienced teachers, and they'll give you the benefit of their expertise.

On classroom management - this is harder than academics.

- Each day ask yourself what little things didn't go well. If lining kids up for lunch was tough, or if transitioning from activity to activity wasn't going smoothly, or if kids were talking, ask yourself how you can specifically fix those problems -- then teach the kids your new methods. As the years go by, you'll incorporate those ideas from the beginning and things'll be easier. Here's just one example: When we take a bubble-sheet test, my students often don't bring pencils. For a long time I gave out my good pencils, and the result was that (either accidentally or on purpose) the kids stole them. Every time I gave a test, I'd lose 4-6 pencils, and I was buying those myself! One day at the office supply store, I saw a box of shorty golf pencils with no erasers. Now those are the ONLY pencils I'll give to kids. They hate those pencils. I'm still using that same first box of shorty pencils because the kids -- when given the choice to use my inferior pencils or dig through their backpacks -- actually HAD PENCILS all along. It's just that as long as I was giving out good pencils, they preferred to sit back and let me take responsibility for their writing utensils. You pick up little things like that as you gain experience.

- Call parents early in the year. At best, you get them on your side. At worst, they can't say later that you've been incommunicative.
The beginning of the school year is crazy for every teacher.
This is so true. I have my lessons laid out for the whole semester, my copies made for the first 9-weeks -- literally, there's nothing I need to do to prepare academically -- and still I'm stressing over my long list of things to do right now. I haven't yet touched IEPs, seating charts, emergency plans, club materials, department requirements and more.
That's amazing money. You work 7 hours a day, 180 days a year... That's almost $39 an hour! To be making that with no experience is phenomenal! Lucky you.
We're with students 7 hours a day, 180 days a year, but that doesn't include planning lessons and activities, meetings and meetings and meetings, tutoring after school, mandatory club activities, mandatory sports activities, contacting parents, grading papers, documenting every last thing we do, preparing special activities for special needs kids, keeping up with our webpages, cleaning the classroom, and more!

You're right though; the OP is making a good salary for a teacher. I don't make that much, and it's my 20th year.
Thank you! Well put! I don't get paid to work in my room at school over the summer, so it will be ready for the first day of school.
Yes, in the first years I taught, it always seemed that being back 4-5 days before the students was ample time to "get everything ready" . . . but in reality, other people fill up that time. Whole-staff meetings, department meetings, small group meetings, Open House day. I personally deal with stress though advanced planning and organization -- this often eliminates the source of the stress. So I discovered years ago that it's best for me to come in over the summer and work a few days (even though it's without pay) to get my room in order (every year all the furniture is moved out for a good, thorough cleaning, so lots of moving is always necessary). If I come back to school with my room organized and clean, my lesson plans prepared, my copies made . . . I can approach the back-to-school days without stress.

But getting back to the OP's original question. I certainly wasn't able to do that in my first couple years. That's something you work up to.
I am unclear why teachers think that they are the only profession who arrives early, stays late, takes work home, etc.
No one said that other professions don't take work home too. The point WASN'T that other people don't work hard -- it was that teachers cannot complete their job in 7 hours a day, 180 days a year.
 
Teachers, don't get suckered into defending our profession.

Anyone who realizes how tremendously satisfying a career teaching is can certainly take the appropriate courses and licensing exams, gain certification, and try for a job.

If you think it's easy money, then you would be a fool not to do it, wouldn't you??? It's not too late; most colleges don't begin classes for the fall semester for a few weeks yet.

I wouldn't call it easy, but as someone who has been teaching since 1980, I can definitively state it's the only career for me.
 
I am unclear why teachers think that they are the only profession who arrives early, stays late, takes work home, etc.

They are, however, the only profession I know who get an hour of "planning time" paid for and the only profession who gets off early when it's hot, when it's snowing, or the day before a holiday.

The teachers here work 180 student days, and 3 professional development days. We'll assume they work the PD days for free, since I don't get extra pay for Saturday conferences, workshops, etc., and what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Your comments are typical of someone who doesn't have any idea of what teachers do. A teacher's day is very structured and controlled. We can't go out for lunch, run errands, chat with friends, or take a few minutes for ourselves during the day. It often is difficult to find time to run to the restroom. We are "on duty" non stop during the school day. Often the hour of planning is spent contacting parents, helping students, making copies of papers, having meetings, doing extra duties, etc. I've never known a good teacher who didn't take home several hours of work every night. Many teachers do not have a lunch break and must eat with their students in the cafeteria. We don't get extra pay for Saturday conferences and workshops either, and we often must pay for these ourselves, even if they are required.
 
Teachers, don't get suckered into defending our profession.

Anyone who realizes how tremendously satisfying a career teaching is can certainly take the appropriate courses and licensing exams, gain certification, and try for a job.

If you think it's easy money, then you would be a fool not to do it, wouldn't you??? It's not too late; most colleges don't begin classes for the fall semester for a few weeks yet.

I wouldn't call it easy, but as someone who has been teaching since 1980, I can definitively state it's the only career for me.

Best response EVER! :thumbsup2
 
I started teaching 22 years ago and I still remember the first year vividly! It was the hardest but the most rewarding year I ever have had in so many ways. Hang in there, ask for help if you need it, and I promise you will make it through.
 
Geez, I can't believe some of these negative responses. We have a new teacher here who is working very hard and asking for help to be even a better teacher. I don't think we need people here to bash teaching!
 
yes, the first year is the hardest! I cried a lot those first few weeks. But it does get better each year. After 4 or so it gets quite a bit easier.
 
Geez, I can't believe some of these negative responses. We have a new teacher here who is working very hard and asking for help to be even a better teacher. I don't think we need people here to bash teaching!

No one is bashing. He/she wants encouragement, and I'm saying "great money!". That's encouraging, particularly on the Budget Board.
 
I am working towards my M.A. in Education (Pre-K through 3) and already have a B.A. and M.A. in liberal arts. I will be doing my student teaching next spring and hope to have a reaching job in the Fall of '12. I already know that teachers put in WAY more hours than it seems. I spent MANY hours on ONE lesson plan for a grad school summer class (which hopefully I can use when I am in my own classroom).

My (dear departed) father was a high school mathematics teacher in the Bronx (Vice Principal of Math for 19 years). My mother recently mentioned to me that, no matter how long he had been teaching, he would go over his lesson plans every night, so they would be fresh in his mind.

I am so impressed by how conscientious he was; but we all know that is the mark of a good and committed teacher.

OP, I hope things are looking up soon and I agree finding a mentor and a colleague to commiserate with are great suggestions. Please keep us posted!
 
I'm a brand new teacher but our school doesn't start til Monday. We just had Meet the Teacher night, it was weird but fun to be on the teacher side!

How long have you been in school? What specifically are you struggling with? What type of school are you teaching in & what is your student population like?

I can tell you I'm totally jealous of your salary!! I am definitely working for love, not money in my position. My friend is also a new teacher and started with the kids Monday. She is completely overwhelmed at the moment too. She already had another teacher yell at her!

I'd be happy to share/commiserate/help if possible. I teach 3rd and will have some interesting challenges with students this year.
 
OP HERE

Well I work in the inner city so that is one reason my salary is high, also I have a Masters Degree. I am working everyday from 7:00 am until 5:30 pm. Then I come home and continue to work from 7:00pm until 12:30 am. I am so burnt out but I cannot seem to catch up or even get ahead. I am also working on weekends trying to catch up. I am just so exhausted. I only get planning time 3 days a week. Wednesday it is for 30 min. and Thursday and Friday it is for 1 hour. Mentor teachers are unavailable due to budget cuts. My colleagues have been very helpful but they have their own classrooms that they have to worry about. Also my students are unruly and could careless if I call their parents. Uggh. I come home crying eveyday. My husband makes me suck it up and go back the next day. I am so depressed I have not eaten in two days.
 
As a parent of 3 kids, I would just like to say THANK YOU to all the teachers here! I appreciate every bit of extra time you all put into our kids.

To OP I hope that you are able to hang in there. While I'm not a teacher the one thing I would recommend is consistency, sounds like these kids (based on what you wrote) need it.
 
OP HERE

Well I work in the inner city so that is one reason my salary is high, also I have a Masters Degree. I am working everyday from 7:00 am until 5:30 pm. Then I come home and continue to work from 7:00pm until 12:30 am. I am so burnt out but I cannot seem to catch up or even get ahead. I am also working on weekends trying to catch up. I am just so exhausted. I only get planning time 3 days a week. Wednesday it is for 30 min. and Thursday and Friday it is for 1 hour. Mentor teachers are unavailable due to budget cuts. My colleagues have been very helpful but they have their own classrooms that they have to worry about. Also my students are unruly and could careless if I call their parents. Uggh. I come home crying eveyday. My husband makes me suck it up and go back the next day. I am so depressed I have not eaten in two days.

If you have not already done so, get a copy of The First Days of School by Harry Wong and read it NOW!
You need to cut back or you really are going to burn out your first year. There are ALWAYS more things that can be done, but you need to draw the line somewhere. Set a reasonable time that you will leave school every day, like 5:00. Then limit yourself to 1 hour of working at home. Some things will not get done, but it won't be the end of the world. You need to take care of yourself before you can take care of a class of kids.
 




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