Free upgrades from Value Resorts to OKW or SSR, incl free dining!

[Vickis3js]

While I am not angry about them getting the upgrade I think its amazing. But like some others being a new owner I am questioning the value in me buying. Its only short lived since I know I will get a discount year after year.


Now if they opened up awesome deals for last minute travel I could so convince DH to go. If I could get a 1 bedroom for a value rack rate and free dining I would be there in a minute. I might even pay moderate prices with free dining.

Congrats to all those who go the upgrade.

 

[logan115]

As an owner I'm happier now that these rooms are generating SOME revenue that can be used for maintenance as opposed to ending up empty, as someone mentioned that this money does go back to DVC.

I have no idea if there is still availability at SSR/OKW to stay on points right now, and I sympathize with folks that *could* end up being shut out of a last minute trip because SSR/OKW end up being full, however I'd much rather have those rooms providing revenue than remaining empty just in case someone decides to take a last minute trip.

Chris

 

[LBelle]

Great post, alamode!
Now, we were NOT lucky enough to receive the upgrade. What I am curious about is why Disney doesn't upgrade throught the system: why not Values to Mods; Mods to Studios; DVCers to preferred units/bigger, etc. In my opinion, it would seem the more fair thing to do. I don't understand why the lowest paying guests are getting the benefit over the people who have paid for Mods or DVC places.

They must have a reason for doing what they do but it doesn't make much sense to me.

 

[thelionqueen]

I guess I don't understand all the anger at them upgrading guests
First of all, Disney isn't using DVC designated rooms for these upgrades, they are using their 3% ownership retention to do so, so they are not using our dues to pay for any part of this promotion.

As a stockholder, I think it's a brilliant idea to move a guest from a value to a DVC unit to entice sales. I personally loved staying at values for the money, but as soon as I stayed DVC I was hooked! I think they will get much more interest in DVC by doing this at almost no cost to Disney to do so.

When we bought into DVC we knew what perks we would get and that we could miss out on deals as they come up; what has changed?

I don't bedgrudge any of those who got the upgrade, in fact I'm jealous! But I certainly don't feel slighted for any reason. Just my .02

 

[BEASLYBOO]

Someone elses good fortune or opportunity doesn't take anything away from me. There's disposable inventory out there that will allow some families to have a vacation where in this economy they might not have been able to, how exactly does that rob me of anything.

My DVC purchase guarantees me my vacations, when I want for years to come, I don't have to wait for special perks or offers.

 

[Tinkerbella001]

One more thing...after reading some of these posts, I don't think owning a DVC sounds like a good move. You should be happy and proud to share your love of Disney. I am one who has considered DVC, but after reading how unhappy the majority of you seem to be, hmmmm Not to mention the sense of entitlement and superiority complex displayed by some of the owners on this thread. Of course I know not all DVC members, just the ones who are showing their "true class" on this thread.

All I can say is Karma ia a WONDERFUL thing!

 

[Greysword]

...Remeber, it's not YOUR park, just because you purchased a timeshare. Everyone deserves to have the best vacation possible. The people that were upgraded just got an extra special treat from Disney, which is great for them, but to think that you as a DVC member deserve something because these "value people" are coming into "your" resort is to me very petty and childish.

I think you are missing my initial point, so please allow me to restate it. If Disney uses CRO rooms to conduct a promotion (this seems true based on the limited availability), then it is fantastic and I am very happy for the upgraded families (and us). Their purchase proceeds will go to helping offset the cost of keeping SSR and OKW operating, which helps a lot.

The concern I had was if Disney was using empty member alloted rooms to further their own gain at our expense (operating cost), and Debbie set me straight on this one, thanks! . I also wanted to express my hope that if someone upgraded from any Disney resort stays at a DVC property, I hope they understand it isn't mainly Disney (a large corporation thought to have deep pockets) that pays for maitenance, upkeep, and operations on these properties. Instead it is us, the average member, that mainly pays these costs, and to please be kind. I don't think anyone mentioned the parks, but we do own (or at least have a long term lease) on SSR and OKW.

I'd hate to hear if any DVCers treat the upgraders as second class citizens. Seems very petty to me.

I don't think this will happen, especially from DISer DVC members. In adition, there is no way to tell who is staying at a given resort on points, cash, upgrade, etc. Thus, I think everyone will be treated as if they are long standing members, as it should be.

- Chris

 

[kim_d]

It's in the DVC contract that any unreserved rooms at 60 days can be sent to CRO for rental, with profits going back to the members as breakage income. So it's legal for them to do that.

That's what I thought. Honestly, it doesn't bother me in the least. Disney is a business...my understanding was the values were full, DVC (OKW and SSR) were not. Move some folks into DVC and then open up the values for more people, some money comes back to DVC and they might even get a handful of new DVC members.

 

[Chuck S]

Folks, many, many posts have been removed from this thread, either for inappropriate comments or quoting/replying to inapproprite comments. Launching into attacks of fellow Disney guests simply because they chose to stay at a value resort, and were lucky enough to be upgraded is inappropriate. Any more such comments will result in the closure of this thread.

 

[Maistre Gracey]

Not to mention the sense of entitlement and superiority complex displayed by some of the owners on this thread.

Please don't forget one thing... We paid for the entitlement, therefor by definition, we are entitled.

Of course I know not all DVC members, just the ones who are showing their "true class" on this thread.
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All I can say is Karma ia a WONDERFUL thing!

Are these statements a bit contradictory perhaps??

MG

 

[Chuck S]

Please don't forget one thing... We paid for the entitlement, therefor by definition, we are entitled.


MG

What entitlement did we pay for, specifically, other that the right to book our home resort according to DVC booking rules?

 

[Tinkerbella001]

Please don't forget one thing... We paid for the entitlement, therefor by definition, we are entitled.

Entitled to put other people down?? For being less fortunate?

Are these statements a bit contradictory perhaps??

MG

Not in the least. The statement shows a complete lack of class...and Karma will catch up in the long run.

 

[Maistre Gracey]

What entitlement did we pay for, specifically, other that the right to book our home resort according to DVC booking rules?

That's it.
We paid for the right to stay at the DVC resorts. If we are miffed as to why others can stay there for pennies on the dollar, and somebody sees that as entitled, than my response is that we have a right to feel that way. You can label that feeling whatever you like. The previous poster chose the word entitled.

MG

 

[Maistre Gracey]

Not in the least. The statement shows a complete lack of class...and Karma will catch up in the long run.

Just my opinion.. I think wishing bad karma on others does not demonstrate class. --Perhaps I'm misinterpreting your comments.

MG

 

[kim_d]

That's it.
We paid for the right to stay at the DVC resorts. If we are miffed as to why others can stay there for pennies on the dollar, and somebody sees that as entitled, than my response is that we have a right to feel that way. You can label that feeling whatever you like. The previous poster chose the word entitled.

MG

CRO can sell DVC rooms and are able to set the price that they determine will sell...that hasn't changed. Also when you sell your points for $8-9 you are allowing renters to stay at DVC for pennies on the dollar as well. Why is it different when CRO does it?

 

[rentayenta]

Just my opinion.. I think wishing bad karma on others does not demonstrate class. --Perhaps I'm misinterpreting your comments.

MG

MTE. Ridiculous.

 

[Maistre Gracey]

CRO can sell DVC rooms and are able to set the price that they determine will sell...that hasn't changed. Also when you sell your points for $8-9 you are allowing renters to stay at DVC for pennies on the dollar as well. Why is it different when CRO does it?

I'm not arguing that point. I'm simply defending my right to feel the way I do.

MG

 

[Tinkerbella001]

Just my opinion.. I think wishing bad karma on others does not demonstrate class. --Perhaps I'm misinterpreting your comments.

MG

Definately not wishing bad Karma on anybody...it just happens. And that is a lovely thing. Just to know about it is not "wishing it".

And the "entitlement" for you, I'm afraid, goes way beyond your DVC. NO ONE else is worthy...we get it.

 

[rentayenta]

Some of these posts mirror the rationale of pro-lifers mudering doctors who perform abortions but on a much less intense scale. Mixed the heck up!

 

[Chuck S]

OK, this thread seems destined not to return to topic, and has outlived its usefulness. And no, we will not discuss "destiny" vs. Karma.

This thread is closed.