FREE DINING UPDATE- RUMOR and SPECULATION / Update Page 80 !

[CanadianGuy]

Yes, but the 4/3 deal including dining was one of the speculated deals presented by the moderator.

Just remember...SPECULATED...not known

Exactly on both points.

TOTAL SPECULATION.

"Dear Disney:

Can you please just tell us now? We'd really like to know.. "

 

[super_troop]

Just remember...SPECULATED...not known

No Kidding!!!!! This whole thread is speculation. That's why we are all here. I did quick math. I didn't say I booked this!!!!!!!!!

 

[catrax]

This is all very crazy. When I went to Disney World with my family for the first time 3 years ago, I didn't know any of this was happening! Now, I see the community of knowledge is growing at such a rapid pace! I really appreciate the well thought out post. We're going in August no matter what, but maybe we'll spring for the extra money of a mod or a deluxe if no dining comes out since we'll already be shelling it out!

Also, shorter lines sounds great to me!

 

[mking624]

From Disney web site. 7 nights at Coronado Springs with 7 days of park hoppers and 7 days of regular dining plan - $2435 (rounded up). A savings of 42.8%, as stated by a previous poster, equals $1042 (rounded up). $2435 (original price) minus $1042 (savings) equals $1493. Same plan without 4/3 deal but with free dining is $1847.

No brainer as to which deal I want!!!!!!

I think it's important to note that the original price quoted ($2435) is for only 2 adults in a standard room. Those traveling with more or have a room preference need to take that into consideration and figure out any discounted savings from there.

 

[CanadianGuy]

This is all very crazy. When I went to Disney World with my family for the first time 3 years ago, I didn't know any of this was happening! Now, I see the community of knowledge is growing at such a rapid pace! I really appreciate the well thought out post. We're going in August no matter what, but maybe we'll spring for the extra money of a mod or a deluxe if no dining comes out since we'll already be shelling it out!

Also, shorter lines sounds great to me!

I half wonder if whatever they come out with, doesn't have way shorter dates than everyone here expects leaving room to announce F/D later than usual.

The next couple of weeks are gonna be interesting.. if not terrifying as a moderator.

 

[xoprincessmomxo]

I went back and fixed it! I would really be a jerk if I was hoping that it would be something crappy.

My typing skills aren't always what they should be.

Lol! I thought maybe you were just hoping for lighter crowds!

 

[doccoc2002]

Disney can rattle their sabers all they want about eliminating this and that, but it all comes down to profit and margins on that realized profit.

Two items are still of influence one heavily and one a threat to be dealt with..

The first is simply the economy - no matter what all the banks and politicians in any country say, we are not even close to be even getting on the road to recovery. Watch the world markets, look at what the European union just told Greece and Portugal - and don't have any delusion that and other issues will not reverberate to other countries. Disney depends on foreign tourism just as much as domestic, if their is no disposable income, then no-one comes. Disney and their profits go away. It is simply unwise to borrow your vacations any more. So to get folks to come you have to offer something. Lets face it is is better to offer 40% off rooms and or free dining and have them full, in the hopes that once you are their you will open your wallets. Rather then have the rooms empty because they stuck to the outdated notion that people will come no matter what.

The second thing they have to deal with is the Harry Potter opening. Yes, most folks are not going to go away from Disney for just one attraction, but lets say to really experience Harry Potter (and the rest of Universal) it now takes 3 maybe 4 days..The average vacation is 7...well, that is 3 days of no profits to Disney isn't it? How do you deal with that? Right now there is enough frenzy - wait until both movies hit the theaters this year and early next...then watch...

Most of the CM's are pretty closed up about what Disney thinks - maybe they are not being told - who know's...but in a personal opinion (open to flaming) I think it is financial suicide for Disney not to offer some crumbs to the public this year

Well said
Disney definately would be CRAZY not to offer something...I think they are waiting to see how it is played out with HP...We knew that US was making a BIG announcemnent in late March, so Disney had to wait to see what that announcement was going to be.
Yes, you will have a lot of folks flocking to US and if they do the whole US thing for 3/4 days it doesn't mean that they are going to do Disney for the other 4/3 days...they could cut vacation short(along the lines of a STAYCATION)...they could do SeaWorld/Bucsh Gardens...They could go to the beach to relax after the HP frenzy!!! Which you know is going to happen...look at TSMM over a year later and it is still a FRENZY! They have to close it for 2weeks at the end of Aug to refurb because it keeps shutting down and you also have TS3 coming out! That is going to be another disappointment Disney needs to think about...maybe not right away but if I got down there and TSMM was closed and my child wanted to ride it after seeing TS3 I would be a little upset...Also Star Tours is closing after SW weekends until next years SW weekends.

Too many ???? for Disney to contend with...I think we will see something soon...not sure tomorrow but soon...I think they waited to see US was doing with WWOHP...now they know, now they have to start thinking of a AWESOME discount to bring people in away from US/IOA.

 

[erikawolf2004]

Thanks for the info! I'm a "gut"guy also,and I think Disney will be making a HUGE mistake by not offering FD! If you are going to wean people from discounts(especially FD),It needs to be done swiftly-you can't just leave people hanging and waiting for a discount that is not going to materialize;that is why I STILL think FD is going to happen! We were not going to visit this year-that's why we did'nt book bounce-back in Sept.09',but then,as usual,the prospect of FD,and the saving of MAJOR bucks that it brings,we decided we wanted in again this Sept. If FD is offered we might visit this year-if not NO WAY! We'll just wait until Fantasy Land update is finished,and then come back,FD or not!!!!

This is our thinking also. One of the reason I think something good will come down the line...if you don't give us something good we will just wait for the update of FL. I also think so many people will stay offsite if they don't offer something good...the economy hasn't recovered enough yet for them to drop all the good deals!!!

 

[emmabelle]

Lol! I thought maybe you were just hoping for lighter crowds!

Omg!

I can't believe I didn't go back and reread it before I posted it. I usually do. I can't believe that I actually made a typo that was a real word, that actually worked in the sentence.

 

[CanadianGuy]

Well said
Disney definately would be CRAZY not to offer something...I think they are waiting to see how it is played out with HP...We knew that US was making a BIG announcemnent in late March, so Disney had to wait to see what that announcement was going to be.
Yes, you will have a lot of folks flocking to US and if they do the whole US thing for 3/4 days it doesn't mean that they are going to do Disney for the other 4/3 days...they could cut vacation short(along the lines of a STAYCATION)...they could do SeaWorld/Bucsh Gardens...They could go to the beach to relax after the HP frenzy!!! Which you know is going to happen...look at TSMM over a year later and it is still a FRENZY! They have to close it for 2weeks at the end of Aug to refurb because it keeps shutting down and you also have TS3 coming out! That is going to be another disappointment Disney needs to think about...maybe not right away but if I got down there and TSMM was closed and my child wanted to ride it after seeing TS3 I would be a little upset...Also Star Tours is closing after SW weekends until next years SW weekends.

Too many ???? for Disney to contend with...I think we will see something soon...not sure tomorrow but soon...I think they waited to see US was doing with WWOHP...now they know, now they have to start thinking of a AWESOME discount to bring people in away from US/IOA.

WOW.. you just spun my brain completely around.

Suppose this next promotion was actually for June / July ... to counter Universal .. and the fall is just delayed -- that's another concept I hadn't really considered.

Altho that would jive with being more concerned about Q3 (the opening of WWoHP) ... than Q4 (July to September) at this point in time..

 

[pigletto]

That seems like a distinct possibilty Canadian Guy.

I'm going to relax. It just hit me that they have a 30 percent off promotion for what is typically a very busy time right now.
Whatever happens they will have to offer something.. and likely something better than 30% for their absolute slowest time of the year.

 

[doccoc2002]

WOW.. you just spun my brain completely around.

Suppose this next promotion was actually for June / July ... to counter Universal .. and the fall is just delayed -- that's another concept I hadn't really considered.

Altho that would jive with being more concerned about Q3 (the opening of WWoHP) ... than Q4 (July to September) at this point in time..

Sorry...didn't mean to add to the drama but if a Aug/Sept deal doesn't come out right away it could mean they are trying to works some different scenerious before they realize that FD is a MUST!

Q4 is still a problem 'cause people will want to see it during the summer months or early fall(would be open for a short time still)...Not everyone will go right at opening...too busy and the heat. Personally, I would go a few months after opening that way all the kinks are out!

 

[tiki23]

WOW.. you just spun my brain completely around.

Suppose this next promotion was actually for June / July ... to counter Universal .. and the fall is just delayed -- that's another concept I hadn't really considered.

I've been thinking along these lines myself. A delayed fall promo announcement to try and concentrate on filling the rooms they have vacant through summer.

I'm in property management and the apartment rental business is hurting. We are trying to lure potential renters away from our competitors now by giving them enough good deals to move in the spring/early summer rather than the usual very busy moving time of July and August. If we can get them now, we have them for a year. If we wait until everyone is offering deals during the busy time, we won't stand out from the crowd and may lose some of those potential renters.

 

[Melanie230]

I don't see Disney doing the kids free...that would mean parents have to take there kids out of school and I don't see a whole lot of that happening...even though we do...I think it would cause a lot of backlash for them.

I do think that a lot of people may change to US/IOA during the 4thQuater...they probably will book after summer thinking that there will be less people in the park 'cause kids will be in school...at least I look at it that way...No matter when you go to US for WWOHP it will be crowded, it should be AMAZING!...I can't wait to go but I think my kids are a little to young for a lot of rides and they are not big on some thrill rides...Oldest(6) LOVES them and middle(4) is unsure...baby(9months) obviously NOT into them

Staying off site wouldn't work for us...rental car, parking$$$$, tickets, food...it all adds up. we would go for less time an drevamp our ADR's a bit.
I still think they will offer FD/something better than they have offered...it is HURRICANE season
BTW...Hurricane season is expected to be more active than past years...just something to think about

Disney would be a fool not to have a popular promotion during their slowest and last Quarter...people who have the packages tend to spend more money in the parks because mostly everything(minus tips) is already paid for!

I agree. Except for those of us that have kids in year round schools...we are out of school the first 3 weeks of October anyway!

 

[mom2aba]

maybe not right away but if I got down there and TSMM was closed and my child wanted to ride it after seeing TS3 I would be a little upset...Also Star Tours is closing after SW weekends until next years SW weekends.

Please tell me the latter is just a rumor! We knew about TSMM and were disappointed but ST being closed is going to really make us wonder if we should go to DHS at all (and it's been our favorite park!)

Carole

 

[TheRatPack]

Wow, after all this speculation I decided to just check and see what I could do with a Universal trip....we've not visited in 3 years so I'd be really excited to go back. WOW....I could stay at a 'partner' hotel for 1/3 of the cost of what I'm spending on my Disney room with 1 day tickets. That was with the Harry Potter package....so a few little bonus things.

Hmmm, now I'm kind of leaning toward that....even after purchasing our tickets and food (the hotel has a kitchen though so we'd eat a lot of meals there)....we'd still come in spending a lot less. I could pay for it using the refund I'd get from Disney and still have some left over. Decisions based on speculation are dangerous though....so I'll wait it out till Monday LOL

 

[CanadianGuy]

I agree. Except for those of us that have kids in year round schools...we are out of school the first 3 weeks of October anyway!

Since my head has been spun I went back to some emails and realized I goofed in the original post slightly -- specifically.. I said Disney was very concerned about Q4 (July to Sept) when the original notes I had said they were very concerned about Q3 and therefore might be focusing more closely on the April May June time frame before tackling 'fall discounts'.

I have edited my original post to reflect the changes.

But with that in mind.. some kind of promotion for kids (not necessarily whats being tossed around mind you) might be a great fit right up til the end of August..

Hmm..

 

[Melanie230]

Wow, after all this speculation I decided to just check and see what I could do with a Universal trip....we've not visited in 3 years so I'd be really excited to go back. WOW....I could stay at a 'partner' hotel for 1/3 of the cost of what I'm spending on my Disney room with 1 day tickets. That was with the Harry Potter package....so a few little bonus things.

Hmmm, now I'm kind of leaning toward that....even after purchasing our tickets and food (the hotel has a kitchen though so we'd eat a lot of meals there)....we'd still come in spending a lot less. I could pay for it using the refund I'd get from Disney and still have some left over. Decisions based on speculation are dangerous though....so I'll wait it out till Monday LOL

If you can swing it...STAY ONSITE at Universal. When you stay onsite...your hotel key gets you UNLIMITED FRONT OF THE LINE passes. If the line at Men In Black is 75 minutes long...you use your hotel key and get to go through a different line that puts you ahead of the regular line. My son and I did this one year in July...we watched a man go into the regular line for Men In Black, and we were able to ride Men In Black 8 times going on our ninth when that man got on for the first time. Staying onsite is worth every dime.

 

[doccoc2002]

Please tell me the latter is just a rumor! We knew about TSMM and were disappointed but ST being closed is going to really make us wonder if we should go to DHS at all (and it's been our favorite park!)

Carole

Not a rumor they are updating SW to SW2.0 3D experience...Sorry to be the bearer of this bad news...my DD's were looking forward to this ride as well again!

 

[KTJAY]

From Disney web site. 7 nights at Coronado Springs with 7 days of park hoppers and 7 days of regular dining plan - $2435 (rounded up). A savings of 42.8%, as stated by a previous poster, equals $1042 (rounded up). $2435 (original price) minus $1042 (savings) equals $1493. Same plan without 4/3 deal but with free dining is $1847.

No brainer as to which deal I want!!!!!!

It doesn't work out as well for me There are 7 of us going to CBR in 2 rooms and the 4/3 inc free dining would cost about $800 more than just free dining.