Face mask while at table

[disneygirlsng]

Are people not breathing while consuming their meals? If that is safe to do while dining indoors then it’s safe to take them off while seated. Or between sips of coffee outside. If it’s not safe to do so, this rule doesn’t make it more safe to do so.

It may make you feel better about it maybe.

That literally has nothing to do with the rule, but ok.

I don't want to try to explain it people, because I feel like many just don't even want to try to understand. Every single thing over the past year has been about minimizing risk.

ETA: That came off snarkier than I meant it, I just don't get what is confusing about it.

 

[Rufio Slater]

Here’s a crazy idea .....if you’re that scared of spreading or catching anything..........DON’T GO TO DISNEY .

 

[disneygirlsng]

Here’s a crazy idea .....if you’re that scared of spreading or catching anything..........DON’T GO TO DISNEY .

Another crazy idea. If you don't want to follow the rules put in place, don't go to Disney.

 

[Meglen]

I guess it depends on how folks go about dining during covid.
1. Greeted by hostess brought to seat (mask on while walking around other non masked guests) this is to protect the non masked patrons.
2. Sit down and look at the menu (mask on so you are not just breathing and chatting while not putting anything in your mouth.)
3. Waitress come over to ask for your order. ( This is there 6th+ table. They have a mask on to protect us due to them being exposed all day to maskless guests eating)
4. Drinks arive( mask off to take as many sips I want but.once I am not actively drinking like a fish mask back on. Less partials leaving my mouth and no talking while straw is in my mouth.)
5. Mask back on having a good time waiting for food. 20-40 min later. Repeat 4 as needed. And mask back on when waitress comes to check on us.
6. Food comes masks off. Eat food. ( This is a pandemic not chat hour if you feel it's the nice relaxing dinner of years past it's not. We are lucky they are open so we can enjoy the food.
7. Mask back on after done eating chat all you want now and wait for waitress to bring check and leave .

I feel folks want normal chill eating time when you chat with family for an hour while nibbling on good food. Hell I miss this. But it's not time yet. Not enough workers not enough space and if we get workers sick they can't function and reasturants will close more. We need to look at all this different. Be lucky you get to eat there. Be glad you are surrounded by people you love.

As someone who has lost 3 family members who were otherwise healthy to covid. I wish more people would just think of others. My aunt's daughters never wore masks and brought it home to there mother and she died.. horrible times in my family. Please it's just a restaurant no one is making you go. Either enjoy while following the rules or stay home and enjoy meals the way you want to.

 

[charmed59]

Are people not breathing while consuming their meals? If that is safe to do while dining indoors then it’s safe to take them off while seated. Or between sips of coffee outside. If it’s not safe to do so, this rule doesn’t make it more safe to do so.

Safe isn’t a binary thing here, it’s a gradient. Think of it as a points system. The higher number of points you get the more likely you are to catch Covid. No points for staying home. Two points for quickly passing another both unmasked out doors. Five points for standing or sitting six feet from another both masked for 15 minutes indoors. Twenty points if both are unmasked. 50 points if both are within 3 feet.

Everyone has their own threshold for safe. My personal threshold is about 50 points a day. That means I never eat inside a restaurant, and am incredibly fast when I must go in a grocery store. But other might have a higher threshold. So blowing 150 points on an indoor meal is fine with them.

Now look at it from the servers point of view. If everyone they came within 3 feet of to drop off food or bills or pick up plates was wearing a mask they’d be spending maybe 10 points per table. If everyone was unmasked they are up to 50 points per table. You can see how servers, who need the money, are taking a much bigger risk to serve the unmasked.

Now look at it from the managers point of view. For every employee that comes down with Covid all others on that shift have to quarantine for 10 days. Can you imagine how hard it is to staff?

I suspect as soon as Disney can get all the CMs that want one a vaccine they will drop all the masking requirements and let the guest decide for themselves. That’s looking like a late summer time frame. Have patience, this will be over soon.

 

[disneygirlsng]

Safe isn’t a binary thing here, it’s a gradient. Think of it as a points system. The higher number of points you get the more likely you are to catch Covid. No points for staying home. Two points for quickly passing another both unmasked out doors. Five points for standing or sitting six feet from another both masked for 15 minutes indoors. Twenty points if both are unmasked. 50 points if both are within 3 feet.

Everyone has their own threshold for safe. My personal threshold is about 50 points a day. That means I never eat inside a restaurant, and am incredibly fast when I must go in a grocery store. But other might have a higher threshold. So blowing 150 points on an indoor meal is fine with them.

Now look at it from the servers point of view. If everyone they came within 3 feet of to drop off food or bills or pick up plates was wearing a mask they’d be spending maybe 10 points per table. If everyone was unmasked they are up to 50 points per table. You can see how servers, who need the money, are taking a much bigger risk to serve the unmasked.

Now look at it from the managers point of view. For every employee that comes down with Covid all others on that shift have to quarantine for 10 days. Can you imagine how hard it is to staff?

I suspect as soon as Disney can get all the CMs that want one a vaccine they will drop all the masking requirements and let the guest decide for themselves. That’s looking like a late summer time frame. Have patience, this will be over soon.

Wow, what a fantastic explanation. As I said, it's all about minimizing. Nothing is perfect (well, except staying home alone with zero contact with anybody), and nobody has ever said anything is 0% risk, but it's about doing whatever you can to reduce the risk and decrease the viral load that is exposed. It also has nothing to do with fear for most, not sure why people continue to bring that up.

 

[Meglen]

Wow, what a fantastic explanation. As I said, it's all about minimizing. Nothing is perfect (well, except staying home alone with zero contact with anybody), and nobody has ever said anything is 0% risk, but it's about doing whatever you can to reduce the risk and decrease the viral load that is exposed. It also has nothing to do with fear for most, not sure why people continue to bring that up.

Linking wearing a mask to being scared has been a tactic for awhile now. "You are big and strong if you don't wear a mask."While I feel you are much stronger and a better person wearing a mask because it means you care about others. If masks don't work.. you still did what you thought was right to protect others. If they even help 1% that's something. We are seeing literally no flu due to sick people staying home, kids not able to go to school and infect everyone with remote learning and it's just great. My son and husband used to carry all the sickness home to me. I'm grateful for masks this winter.

 

[disneygirlsng]

Linking wearing a mask to being scared has been a tactic for awhile now. "You are big and strong if you don't wear a mask."While I feel you are much stronger and a better person wearing a mask because it means you care about others. If masks don't work.. you still did what you thought was right to protect others. If they even help 1% that's something. We are seeing literally no flu due to sick people staying home, kids not able to go to school and infect everyone with remote learning and it's just great. My son and husband used to carry all the sickness home to me. I'm grateful for masks this winter.

Yep, I usually get at least 2-3 colds each winter. I've been working the same as usual and haven't been sick once. It's been very nice.

 

[closetmickey]

I can report they are not enforcing this yet. Two TS per day since we’ve been here and it has not been mentioned or posted.

 

[CampbellzSoup]

I like how people are trying to rationalize this rule but the virus vanishes once your water comes...

 

[Meglen]

I like how people are trying to rationalize this rule but the virus vanishes once your water comes...

If you have read any of the very informational posts here you would know it's about exposer time.

 

[disneygirlsng]

I like how people are trying to rationalize this rule but the virus vanishes once your water comes...

Not at all what anybody is saying. My goodness.

 

[4Ds4Diz]

Doesn’t matter. It’s the rule and it needs to be followed.

Ok dad, geez the boards are for discussion. People aren't saying they won't follow, just that they would rather be able to remove masks as soon as they sit down. Not sure why Disney is going backwards on this. I lived in a state with some of the tightest rules and even here we can remove masks once seated. Trying to convince my husband this shouldn't be a deal breaker. We have too much time, money and points invested in this trip. Seems with the vaccine roll out, rules should be relaxing.

 

[jlwhitney]

I like how people are trying to rationalize this rule but the virus vanishes once your water comes...

If you have read any of the very informational posts here you would know it's about exposer time.

I read a few blogs/reports yesterday about the new rule and honestly it maybe changes the exposure by a minute or two, all them still ordered food with no masks. Only drinks were ordered with mask on. I am really agreeing with those that think its about increasing capacity, so when when people complain they can claim how they made it safer.

 

[disneygirlsng]

Ok dad, geez the boards are for discussion. People aren't saying they won't follow, just that they would rather be able to remove masks as soon as they sit down. Not sure why Disney is going backwards on this. I lived in a state with some of the tightest rules and even here we can remove masks once seated. Trying to convince my husband this shouldn't be a deal breaker. We have too much time, money and points invested in this trip. Seems with the vaccine roll out, rules should be relaxing.

Not saying people can't have opinions, just incredibly confused on how having to wear a mask for an extra 5 minutes is a deal breaker.

 

[Pyotr]

If you have read any of the very informational posts here you would know it's about exposer time.

This new rule is for turning tables over faster and/or expanding dining capacity. It has nothing to do with safety.

 

[4Ds4Diz]

Not saying people can't have opinions, just incredibly confused on how having to wear a mask for an extra 5 minutes is a deal breaker.

We are almost a year into this. Yes its bad for a very small percentage of people. People that probably wouldn't/shouldn't go to Disney. I guess after many months of this I just don't know why you would go to Disney if you think there are risks. Just don't go. For those willing to mitigate the risk, as you mitigate risks everyday, let them go and live.

 

[wdwlver]

Wow, what a fantastic explanation. As I said, it's all about minimizing. Nothing is perfect (well, except staying home alone with zero contact with anybody), and nobody has ever said anything is 0% risk, but it's about doing whatever you can to reduce the risk and decrease the viral load that is exposed. It also has nothing to do with fear for most, not sure why people continue to bring that up.

Staying home and not going to a restaurant in a YEAR is the definition of fear. And sorry but the replies to this thread one year into this are madness. The ego investment in people who’ve given up their freedom for a year because they are “doing the right thing” is so great that when any suggestion is made that the sacrifice was not necessary its met with a visceral defense mechanism response. And yes I do have a ton of practical experience with this disease because of my job so please don’t use your google search as a replacement for my medical degree..

 

[disneygirlsng]

Staying home and not going to a restaurant in a YEAR is the definition of fear. And sorry but the replies to this thread one year into this are madness. The ego investment in people who’ve given up their freedom for a year because they are “doing the right thing” is so great that when any suggestion is made that the sacrifice was not necessary its met with a visceral defense mechanism response. And yes I do have a ton of practical experience with this disease because of my job so please don’t use your google search as a replacement for my medical degree..

I have a Doctorate in a medical field and treat patients with Covid in a hospital every single day. But thanks for the condescending assumption.

 

[LSUmiss]

Here’s the thing, if it’s just a few min before your drinks come then it’s really not that much more of an imposition. But, if it’s while you’re eating in between bites or sips or whatever, then it’s absolutely ridiculous & to the level of hysteria. I will absolutely not eat in any Disney dining establishments which means that I will purchase my meals offsite so that seems like a dumb idea on Disney’s part.