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Wow, Schmeck. How's the psychotherpy going for the paranoia???

I never let my kids out of my site and I think I'm very protective, but....do you have your kids on one of those leashes??:sad2:


Call me paranoid, too, then. And yeah, I used a leash on my son. He's a runner. It's in his nature. Now that he's 4, he listens much better and doesn't run away anymore, but if he did, I'd still be using a leash.
 
:dance3: :rotfl: :lmao: I find it very comical that so many adults want to sit on the curb. Wait until you are older and find it too difficult to get up :eek: from your beloved spot on that tiny curb made of concrete!!! :confused: No, I am not making fun of anyone who wants to sit on the small concrete curb, but one day you won't dare sit on that curb. You will hurt and cry from the pain when you try to move your tired and weary body from that cement!!! I never thought my day would come, but it did! :headache: The curb is made for children, just my opinion!!:grouphug:

Some people think I am actually laughing at people. It is a computer :surfweb: and a chat thread I am on now (duh) :confused3 . I was not laughing at anybody (at least not until I got the sarcastic response!). Now that is funny, that someone actually is out of joint (pun) about what I said....:rotfl: :lmao: :rotfl2:

This is my post - written to make a point and not making fun of anyone. Yes, it is comical to me and ironic that people will be so territorial over a concrete curb. One day someone will remember this post when they are older and have arthritic knees and find it painful to even think of sitting on a curb to watch a parade. But it is just me :flower3: - and those who are offended need to just chill a little bit. I mean no harm, and I will get up from my chair in pain :eek: , just as I would from the concrete curb, and go to sleep and dream of Disney Magic. :grouphug: I can hardly wait to go to dinner with Cindy and the mice on my birthday :bday: at 1900 Park Fare!! :yay:
 
Off topic-One should know that a child with ADHD would be much safer and more secure in a stroller rather that running around on a "leash" in a crowded theme park anyway.
How can one "assume" that she has never taken a small child to Disney?
As I said in a few previous posts....re-read the OP.

OP also apologized for the comments so lets "breath in, breath out, move on".


I would think most children with ADHD would benefit from expending energy while walking.
 
Push in front of me (you or your kids) anywhere? I don't think so. See you in the park. :thumbsup2
 

Kind of like the sense of entitlement some adults feel over a spot of concrete they do not own that other people who paid the SAME amount for ticket would like to share so their small children can view a parade? :rolleyes1

These discussion are so interesting to me because with a 3 and 1 year old it will be all but impossible to "hold" a spot for a parade for one hour + so we can have a good view....

I guess we'll be skipping the parades this year for fear of scathing rebuke from adults who stake their claim to a piece of sidewalk like its the last place on earth.

These discussions are so interesting to me because I haven't once seen anyone with small children who successfully watched a parade recommend any tips for saving a spot and keeping small children happy during the wait. Unless you are a single parent, there are two adults with your small children - why not just plan to have one adult save the space while the other takes the children wherever they need to go to be happy - a bathroom, an ice cream stop, or another ride or place in the park? I've seen loads of parents with sweaters, bags or strollers spread out on the pavement to mark space - for the most part people respect those just as they do a person physically sitting on the curb.
 
Regardless, if its a kid or an adult that pushes or sits on people it is rude.
 
These discussions are so interesting to me because I haven't once seen anyone with small children who successfully watched a parade recommend any tips for saving a spot and keeping small children happy during the wait. Unless you are a single parent, there are two adults with your small children - why not just plan to have one adult save the space while the other takes the children wherever they need to go to be happy - a bathroom, an ice cream stop, or another ride or place in the park? I've seen loads of parents with sweaters, bags or strollers spread out on the pavement to mark space - for the most part people respect those just as they do a person physically sitting on the curb.
YUP...that's what we do if our DD's get's ants in their pants!! Most of the time though they would rather sit,relax, people watch and have an ice cream or snack. They actually look forward to taking a break. The only time they have been fiesty is during an afternoon parade when it's way hot outside. I just have DH or another adult take them to the closest store and do some window shopping.
 
For what it's worth, we've waited for long periods of time for shows or parades with DD without a problem...I didn't realize it was that hard of a thing to do...maybe we were just lucky. The adults in our party (usually 4 at least) just took turns letting her walk while the others waited...to nearby stores, playing with other kids, to get ice cream...:confused3 Usually there was so much going on around us that she was pretty entertained.
What do you do to occupy your child at home for an hour? Or in a grocery store, or Dr's office? :confused: I realize sometimes, kids just AREN'T going to stand for waiting around in the heat/rain/cold, but surely that isn't ALWAYS the case...?
 
Originally Posted by RACHELSMOM1
I find it very comical that so many adults want to sit on the curb. Wait until you are older and find it too difficult to get up from your beloved spot on that tiny curb made of concrete!!! No, I am not making fun of anyone who wants to sit on the small concrete curb, but one day you won't dare sit on that curb. You will hurt and cry from the pain when you try to move your tired and weary body from that cement!!! I never thought my day would come, but it did! The curb is made for children, just my opinion!!

I am 55, 6'2" and weigh 265. I see myself on that curb 20 years from now. Just because you have a hard time with the curb doesn't mean we all do The curb is made as a line of demarcation, it was not just made for children. You start your post with 3 laughing icons, say you find it very comical that so many adults want to sit on the curb, but you're not laughing at us. I work with kids every day. Not little angels, children with real problems. One of the first things they are taught is what they are entitled to and what they're not. Also they are taught to respect personal space. If some one is in a space, you do not invade it.
 
Wow, I can't believe how worked up people get. Two things to consider.
1. Keep in mind that there are MANY on the Dis who feel that saving a place for a parade while the rest of your party rides is akin to cutting in line and a big no-no. This is what we normally do, I got more than one dirty look when I was saving a place for DH and our for kids for Spectro.

2. Not everyone spends the time that the people on the Dis do on research, most people don't even know how necessary it is. Case in point, last trip we were waiting to be called in for our ADR at Crystal Palace. A tired, frustrated, dad went up to the window to ask about getting a table, he was politely informed that it was a 2 hour wait for a table with no ADR. He was furious, seeing us waiting there he struck up a conversation. He and his family were there for a week with no ADRs, no idea about Fast Passes, no idea how long you had to wait for a spot to watch the parades, he was frustrated and discouraged and STARVING. No one was sharing any magic with that family. I gave him some tips, as best I could, and wished him the best. I always remember that dad when I am sitting waiting for a parade to start and I see a tired, confused family come walking through. Is it all about the kids? No, does it hurt me at all to have a little one or two share some concrete with my four, absolutely not.
 
The poster felt she needed to apologize to you because you sounded offended and sarcastic. I read her post with the self depreciation that she meant it to be. I stand by what I posted.
No she didn't say she felt I was being sarcastic. Yes, she thought I was offended (which I wasn't) but said nothing about me being sarcastic. YOU said I was being sarcastic (and apparently rude), so I stand by what I said: point out exactly where I was being sarcastic and rude. Because I was neither. The OP made a comment, I responded to her, and she replied to me...you took it much further than what was necessary. Just because I disagree with someone (and politely do so) doesn't mean I'm all of a sudden rude and sarcastic. It IS ok for people to share opinions and respond to opinions. And now I'll continue to do so without continuing to acknowledge your wrongly placed judgment of me.

StrollPatrolMom said:
Kind of like the sense of entitlement some adults feel over a spot of concrete they do not own that other people who paid the SAME amount for ticket would like to share so their small children can view a parade?

These discussion are so interesting to me because with a 3 and 1 year old it will be all but impossible to "hold" a spot for a parade for one hour + so we can have a good view....

I guess we'll be skipping the parades this year for fear of scathing rebuke from adults who stake their claim to a piece of sidewalk like its the last place on earth.
I think there's some sort of miscommunication here. No one is saying they would never ever share a spot with someone else's child. No one is saying "screw you all, this is MY spot!" In fact, many of us have said that they'd be fine with it if asked, and have even invited kids to sit there. The issue is the expectation that people have that people who have been waiting will just give up their spot. Asking and being decent about it (while also realizing there's also the possibility of a "no") is one thing, but expecting it to happen and using a child to guilt someone into it and believing it to be "troublesome" if someone disagrees is what the issue is. I know I can safely say that I would never give some scathing rebuke....but there have been times when DH and I have had to turn people down because there has literally been no space...including space to get up and move somewhere else because someone wants our spot (yup, have had this happen). And for me it's frustrating when DH & I are expected to always put our enjoyment to the backburner because of the idea of "it's ALL about the children" (and yes, we have been expected and have been given snide comments). We don't have children and are unable to have children of our own. So there are times when DH and I really want certain moments to ourselves....since we can't share them with any kids of ours. So it can be very disheartening when I see comments that indicate that we're pretty much screwed, that WDW is not for us. And at least for my part, that's why I get upset at comments that say "it's ALL about the children."
 
Some people think I am actually laughing at people. It is a computer :surfweb: and a chat thread I am on now (duh) :confused3 . I was not laughing at anybody (at least not until I got the sarcastic response!). Now that is funny, that someone actually is out of joint (pun) about what I said....:rotfl: :lmao: :rotfl2:

This is my post - written to make a point and not making fun of anyone. Yes, it is comical to me and ironic that people will be so territorial over a concrete curb. One day someone will remember this post when they are older and have arthritic knees and find it painful to even think of sitting on a curb to watch a parade. But it is just me :flower3: - and those who are offended need to just chill a little bit. I mean no harm, and I will get up from my chair in pain :eek: , just as I would from the concrete curb, and go to sleep and dream of Disney Magic. :grouphug: I can hardly wait to go to dinner with Cindy and the mice on my birthday :bday: at 1900 Park Fare!! :yay:
For what it's worth, I was not offended by what you said, I merely made a simple (and polite) statement about it and raised a question. I did think your reply to me was rather kind of you...and I feel it's a shame that someone else had to twist what I said to more than what it was.
 
Kind of like the sense of entitlement some adults feel over a spot of concrete they do not own that other people who paid the SAME amount for ticket would like to share so their small children can view a parade? :rolleyes1

Paying the same amount for a ticket doesn't entitle you to "share" a good parade seat, any more than it entitles you to "share" a better spot in any other line than the time of your arrival would otherwise get you.

I've got a 4yo - if she wants a front-row seat for the parade, she sits in it (or goes around handing out glowsticks to the other kids who are waiting, but she's not off riding rides). If she wants to meet Ariel, she waits in line. If she wants to ride Barnstormer 12 times in a row without getting off, she misses Spectro completely and gets a bad view of Wishes. Just like everyone else, because she's not any more special than anyone else.

She's seen Spectro and the AK parade from the front row, and she's seen the 3pm parade from the Tomorrowland Noodle Terrace (as close to the parade route as we could get, coming late to the party!) and Spectro sitting on my shoulders with 5 rows of adults in front of us. As they say at preschool, you get what you get.
 
No she didn't say she felt I was being sarcastic. Yes, she thought I was offended (which I wasn't) but said nothing about me being sarcastic. YOU said I was being sarcastic (and apparently rude), so I stand by what I said: point out exactly where I was being sarcastic and rude. Because I was neither. The OP made a comment, I responded to her, and she replied to me...you took it much further than what was necessary. Just because I disagree with someone (and politely do so) doesn't mean I'm all of a sudden rude and sarcastic. It IS ok for people to share opinions and respond to opinions. And now I'll continue to do so without continuing to acknowledge your wrongly placed judgment of me.

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For what it's worth, I said your post was rude and sarcastic (attack the post not the poster...remember)


Some people think I am actually laughing at people. It is a computer :surfweb: and a chat thread I am on now (duh) :confused3 . I was not laughing at anybody (at least not until I got the sarcastic response!). Now that is funny, that someone actually is out of joint (pun) about what I said....:rotfl: :lmao: :rotfl2:

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Apparently the original poster thought so too.:rolleyes1
 
the bottom line is people should just pay attention and be considerate of others. im 6-5 and try not to stand in front of kids during the parades or fireworks. but if i am in a spot with my children i would expect the same curtisy from everyone else.
 
the bottom line is people should just pay attention and be considerate of others.

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This coming from the OP of the Fat People in Wheelchairs thread.

Maybe the pixiedust: worked it's magic.

Since the OP knows these things cause raised eyebrows, they obviously don't really care what anybody thinks because they've done them anyway.

My DH cut in front of a bunch of people in line at AK because he was clueless. My fault because I said, "Go take DD to ride Everest and I'll get FPs for the Safari." and didn't add- "...after you get through the line." How embarrassing! And the worst part is we were wearing matching T's and I couldn't act like I didn't know him.
 
:grouphug:
Originally Posted by RACHELSMOM1
I find it very comical that so many adults want to sit on the curb. Wait until you are older and find it too difficult to get up from your beloved spot on that tiny curb made of concrete!!! No, I am not making fun of anyone who wants to sit on the small concrete curb, but one day you won't dare sit on that curb. You will hurt and cry from the pain when you try to move your tired and weary body from that cement!!! I never thought my day would come, but it did! The curb is made for children, just my opinion!!

I am 55, 6'2" and weigh 265. I see myself on that curb 20 years from now. Just because you have a hard time with the curb doesn't mean we all do The curb is made as a line of demarcation, it was not just made for children. You start your post with 3 laughing icons, say you find it very comical that so many adults want to sit on the curb, but you're not laughing at us. I work with kids every day. Not little angels, children with real problems. One of the first things they are taught is what they are entitled to and what they're not. Also they are taught to respect personal space. If some one is in a space, you do not invade it.

You still don't get it. Laughing icons are just that; icons. It is comical to me, just me...nothing personal toward anyone!!! It is not personal. I could care less if you want to sit on the curb, and I would never push my kids on anyone. I promise you they will not sit on you or anyone else! Wow, all I did was express an opinion - what is wrong with people who take these boards so seriously?

Well, I said it before, but apparently nobody saw it "I am so sorry - I apologise if anyone took offense!!! Please go back and read my original post - it is not what you seem to think....

By the way, we don't watch the parade on Main Street!! We have a spot we like to go to in Frontierland, so I hope you all enjoy your curbs on Main Street. And, we don't have to wait on a curb for an hour!!!! We don't even have to sit on the ground.
 
Maybe it's because I'm not a huge parade fan, but I have no problem letting very young kids sit/stand in front of me as long as they ask politely.

I don't think the kids should have to miss the parade or have a bad view because Mom and Dad couldn't drag their butts down to Main Street fast enough.

As for eyebrow raising activity, I've been known to smoke IN the smoking area. For some reason, non-smokers passing near or through the smoking area will give me dirty looks . . . whatever :confused3 If it bothers you that much, people, stay on the other side of the walkway.
 
:rotfl2:Since the OP knows these things cause raised eyebrows, they obviously don't really care what anybody thinks because they've done them anyway.

If you read the original post, it said have you done anything that raised eyebrows but really thought you were doing nothing wrong.

Like a previous poster said, they were smoking in a SMOKING area and received looks from people.

I have gotten "raised eyebrows" from people in line at many rides just because we were using the FP line. Does that mean I shouldn't use the FP line because I "don't care what they are thinking"?

It is really a matter of perception. If I had listed the 6 items as "Tricks" instead of "Eyebrow Raisers" there would have been a totally different reaction to this thread.

The fact is all of the 6 things that I listed in the OP are all things that are very acceptable as long as you do them with some tact.

#1-Sitting on the wall at STWB: My kids, and a few other kids in the back, were brought up there (by hand) by Belle's maids at a pretty packed show. The next time we went we asked if we could sit there and they said "yes, kids are allowed to sit there." Did it raise eyebrows, of course, did I worry about what other people were thinking, no, we didn't do anything wrong.

#2-Moving past people standing in the middle of the room toward the exit door on rides like ToT, RNR, HM, etc.. There is nothing wrong with this as long as you are not running past or pushing people to get there. CMs are ALWAYS repeating to move all the way through. Just because people want to stop in the middle of the room so that they can see better, doesn't mean I have to stop.

#3-Waiting until a row fills sufficiently so we can sit in the middle. Another thing that needs to be done with tact. It's not like we stand at the end of a row and tell people to file in past us, count heads until we know we are in the middle and then push our way in. We situate ourselves somewhere in the middle of the holding room, before the doors open into the theater. Then, when you walk into the theater, it is pretty easy to assess what row has filled up sufficiently so that we end up in the middle. I guess this probably doesn't even raise many eyebrows. However, what has raised eyebrows is when we are in a 3D show that is way under capacity and sit in the front row and stop in the middle because there is only one other family in the row. Is there really any reason to move to the end of the row when everybody in the row can have a "middle" seat??

#4-Here is the real contentious one. Some posters have made really good points about being territorial about their space or thinking they have rights to concrete. In my OP, I said, "If there is a spot on the curb....I have my kids squeeze in". IMO there is always enough room to squeeze a 3 to 12 year old fanny onto the curb somewhere along the parade route. I believe that getting there early just gives you the opportunity to choose your spot. Just because you show up later doesn't mean you can't find a spot to "squeeze" your kids in, you just have to settle with the location. After all, there are no real rules for saving a Parade spot. If I show up with 20 people and a bunch of blankets, can I save 20 spots? How much room is alotted for each person?
Some people talk about entitlement, why is someone "entitled" to take as much room as they want because they are there early. Bottom line is I think most people would slide over for a polite child if they asked politely and the parents stood in back. Yet if we find a small amount of curb (and you don't need very much curb to fit an 8YO fanny) and let our DD sit there 3 minutes before the parade starts, you can't count on one hand how many parents will have raised eyebrows. However, our kids usually end up talking and laughing with their kids throughout the parade (again it's all about the kids).

#5 -This one was a TRICK that Canadian Guy caught on to. You can now do this and I'm sure Disney changed to a generic mug for this reason. But man, the raised eyebrows for people having an Value mug at a Deluxe hotel....Forgetaboutit.

#6-The Mr. Potato Head thing shouldn't raise any eyebrows, but does. Why should anyone else care that I am spending my time stuffing a box with as many tiny pieces as I can. And the thing is, this is kind of a TRICK, because without fail, while I am doing this, there will be at least two other families that had no clue you could stuff the box and end up doing it themselves after talking to us.

Everybody seems to have their own definition of etiquette, or Disney Etiquette. I think some people spend their entire trip looking for other people to cross that etiquette line just so they can shake their head at them.:confused3
 
Kind of like the sense of entitlement some adults feel over a spot of concrete they do not own that other people who paid the SAME amount for ticket would like to share so their small children can view a parade? :rolleyes1

Did you even read the original post?
 
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